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Correct me if I'm wrong but it doesn't seem to work on older MacBook Pros, I can't find the Night Shift tab on my late 2011 13" MacBook Pro.

Not wrong ... Apple are intentionally devaluing older hardware ... no actual reason for this missing feature ... flux has been working fine on my 2010 MBP a long time ... the hardware can handle it ... unless Apple are saying that their engineers cannot do what flux clearly can!!!

It used to be that hardware was not intentionally made obsolete in terms of features ... unless there was no choice.
 
Not wrong ... Apple are intentionally devaluing older hardware ... no actual reason for this missing feature ... flux has been working fine on my 2010 MBP a long time ... the hardware can handle it ... unless Apple are saying that their engineers cannot do what flux clearly can!!!

It used to be that hardware was not intentionally made obsolete in terms of features ... unless there was no choice.

Isnt any mbp <= 2011 now part of the unsupported Apple devices anyway? Probably may not even run the next macOS or is that only for service
 
Isnt any mbp <= 2011 now part of the unsupported Apple devices anyway? Probably may not even run the next macOS or is that only for service

No. My mid-2011 13" MBA is running 10.12.3 better than it did with Lion, which it came with when I bought it.

BL.
 
It's odd because Apple could have just made people aware of it instead of the trumpet fanfare for a feature that they refused to acknowledge the need for for years. I blame the annual OS release cycle for the scrounging around for ideas
Not really odd at all as something like that is a fairly typical pattern of how all kinds of features make into all kinds of products. If Apple came to realize the use for something and came up with a solution of their own that they believe is better in one way or another, nothing strange for them to implement it and make it available to their customers.
 
It's odd because Apple could have just made people aware of it instead of the trumpet fanfare for a feature that they refused to acknowledge the need for for years. I blame the annual OS release cycle for the scrounging around for ideas
Are you bothered that Apple "refused" to acknowledge the need for it before or that they are acknowledging the need for it now?

I'm looking at the Apple site, and I'm not seeing trumpets or fanfares or any mention of this at all on their main page. Or their Mac page. Or the Sierra page. It was a point release update and buried in a tab of a system preference.

MacRumors has been trumpeting it, but that's just because it's a point release with not much else to talk about. For those of us who want to know what changed, this did: NightShift is now supported on Macs.
 
It's a little odd that the headline feature replicates the actions of a free app that's been around for years

An app a small portion of users make use of vs a feature built into the operating system which all users can now use? What's strange about that.

The Apple implementation is far better. Less system resources used and better integration.
 
Not wrong ... Apple are intentionally devaluing older hardware ... no actual reason for this missing feature

This is the unfortunate truth. I'm still using El Capitan with my Mid 2011 Imac, even though Sierra was introduced just five years after the machine was built (September 2016). I haven't been bothered to run the update.

Almost none of the new features of Sierra work on on a Mid 2011 machine. At first I figured that they had to throw us a bone with Night Shift, as there was no technical reason to deny it. However, apparently they're not going support a five year-old machine with OS features anymore. Having used Imacs for a long time, this is the fastest I've seen them try to make a particular machine obsolete in the post PPC era.
 
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I prefer f.lux because I can set a daytime, sunset, and night time colour temperature.

I find having a slightly warm screen to be much easier on the eyes.

Of course, a dark theme is still way better at night or in dark settings.
 
I can understand features that require more up to date versions of bluetooth, etc, not working on older Macs, but this is about people's sleep and therefore their health. So to disable it on on older Macs is grotesquely cynical.
Seriously disappointed with Apple over this.
 
I can understand features that require more up to date versions of bluetooth, etc, not working on older Macs, but this is about people's sleep and therefore their health. So to disable it on on older Macs is grotesquely cynical.
Seriously disappointed with Apple over this.
It's not disabled on older Macs, they don't support the implementation of it that Apple put together. They can still use a solution like f.lux, for example.
 
It's not disabled on older Macs, they don't support the implementation of it that Apple put together. They can still use a solution like f.lux, for example.

Of course it's disabled on older Macs. There is no Night Shift tab on my 2010 Mini, but there is on my 2015 iMac. f.lux does the same thing, so the Mini has the same function now, so it's not that the hardware can't be tweaked - therefore Apple disabled it for older Macs.
 
Of course it's disabled on older Macs. There is no Night Shift tab on my 2010 Mini, but there is on my 2015 iMac. f.lux does the same thing, so the Mini has the same function now, so it's not that the hardware can't be tweaked - therefore Apple disabled it for older Macs.
Understanding the implementation explains it. It not being there on older computers that don't support how Apple implemented doesn't mean it's disabled there as Apple's implantation of it isn't something that can exist there.
 
Understanding the implementation explains it. It not being there on older computers that don't support how Apple implemented doesn't mean it's disabled there as Apple's implantation of it isn't something that can exist there.

Meaningless hair splitting.
 
The only reason Apple have done this is to try to get the sort of people who aren't comfortable with hacking system files or who don't know about f.lux, to buy a new Mac so they too can benefit from Night Shift. From a company that claims to be concerned about landfill and health, this stinks.
 
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