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How to Use Your Mac to Help the Fight Against Coronavirus
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sounds good
side note: interesting how sharing your personal cpu power and internet bandwidth is getting to be a thing now
sounds good
side note: interesting how sharing your personal cpu power and internet bandwidth is getting to be a thing now
It has been a thing for quite a while. Personally I have been doing it on and off for a decade.
Macrumors has had a folding team for around 17 years.
Some other distributed computing programs have been going since the mid 90's.
Not really. I don't care if a company somehow along the line makes profit from a drug that they used this tiny bit of volunteer work on. This isn't "make a perfect drug using your computer for J&J" it still takes countless hours of effort by people who have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to be in their respective fields to understand the results and put them to use.
You've hinted they're mining or doing other nefarious things with the computer power, but provided -NO EVIDENCE- for this. It is laughable.
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They are mining data for their own research, which isn't because they want to provide knowledge to the public domain.
Thats a bit closer to the truth. I thing that's the closest we will get on the issue however.
My main stand is, if you or your funding entity would like to claim the result and commercialize it directly and/or indirectly, you should not use public funding sources.
In this case, if that's the case, which I think it absolutely is, they should use commercial cloud providers such as Amazon Web Services (AWS). If Amazon decided to donate their server time, which would almost never happen, that's Amazon's informed decision, and Amazon is in a much better position to make such decisions. More likely, Amazon would want a piece of the IP and/or a chunk of their commercial spin-offs.
Do they know those options exist?
- Of course!
Why aren’t they pursuing it?
- They don't want to dilute their shares.
- aka, pure greed.
- It's that simple.
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I've not had any work units for a couple of days now. Looks as if they are getting slammed:
For prerspective, one team ALONE has added about 18,000 new users in the last week (PC Master Race).
There is no way to tell how many new "anonymous because of the default client setup" folders have been added to the default team - but I'd guess HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS and perhaps as high as a MILLION over the last week.
For perspective, Coreweave is contributing "more than 6000 Tesla V100" GPUs out of their 45,000 thousand GPU render farm - and they're WAY down the scale in comparison to the default team or anonymous user in work down.
The primary issue appears to be lack of work units - the "60,000" that was added to one of the servers represented less than 6 HOURS of work at the current F@H participation level.
My personal guess is that participation in number of people has multiplied by at least 10 times, more likely over 100 times, and possibly by A THOUSAND times in the last week. Number of clients hasn't gone up as much as many of us longer-term folders have been "heavy hitters" with multiple machines/clients.
This would put serious strain on ANY organization.
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For prerspective, one team ALONE has added about 18,000 new users in the last week (PC Master Race).
There is no way to tell how many new "anonymous because of the default client setup" folders have been added to the default team - but I'd guess HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS and perhaps as high as a MILLION over the last week.
For perspective, Coreweave is contributing "more than 6000 Tesla V100" GPUs out of their 45,000 thousand GPU render farm - and they're WAY down the scale in comparison to the default team or anonymous user in work down.
The primary issue appears to be lack of work units - the "60,000" that was added to one of the servers represented less than 6 HOURS of work at the current F@H participation level.
My personal guess is that participation in number of people has multiplied by at least 10 times, more likely over 100 times, and possibly by A THOUSAND times in the last week. Number of clients hasn't gone up as much as many of us longer-term folders have been "heavy hitters" with multiple machines/clients.
This would put serious strain on ANY organization.
I'm just hopeful that they're able to get more work up for folks to do. It'd be a real shame if this excitement goes to waste.
the Virtualbox GPU "BMSVGA" isn't supported neither. So it will be folding on CPU only.
Here is one of the few WU for Covid-19 my CPU was assigned to in the last few days.
Point being, Mac can get Covid-19 related work units for a CPU. I wish GPUs were supported though. Would love to see those Radeos Pro Vega IIs eating through the data
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I found that every few WU, my Mac doesn't get any assignments.
What I do is, I go to Configure/Slots, delete all Folding Slots, save, come back and add new slot for CPU, save and within a minute or two, I'm getting new assignment.
Looking through the log it looks like all data is being saved and sent out before I delete the slots.
Is this safe to do?
Am I losing any WU/data?
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one more thing:
I have a 16 core (32 threads) CPU. I've noticed that I'm getting full CPU utilization of the 32 cores if I split CPU to 2 Folding Slots. This way I'm getting WU more often, I think. When having only 1 Folding Slot for 32 cores, after first assignment app never got new WU.
Point being, Mac can get Covid-19 related work units for a CPU. I wish GPUs were supported though. Would love to see those Radeos Pro Vega IIs eating through the data
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I found that every few WU, my Mac doesn't get any assignments.
What I do is, I go to Configure/Slots, delete all Folding Slots, save, come back and add new slot for CPU, save and within a minute or two, I'm getting new assignment.
Looking through the log it looks like all data is being saved and sent out before I delete the slots.
Is this safe to do?
Am I losing any WU/data?
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one more thing:
I have a 16 core (32 threads) CPU. I've noticed that I'm getting full CPU utilization of the 32 cores if I split CPU to 2 Folding Slots. This way I'm getting WU more often, I think. When having only 1 Folding Slot for 32 cores, after first assignment app never got new WU.
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I installed, got a work unit for my CPU (AMD Ryzen 5 3600x) and 1 unit for my GPU - AMD RX 580. With the stock Wraith Spire heat sink I was sitting at 88-89C full load with app defaults. Went to Best Buy and got a CoolMaster Hyper 212 Black Edition for $39 and now I'm seeing 80C full load. That's sitting at 25C in the home office (very warm day for this time of year).
Audible difference between the Wraith Spire and the Hyper 212 is night and day... can't even tell my computer is on with the 212.
Noticing the room heat up with almost 390W being pulled at the plug (Kill-A-Watt).
The GPU is estimating 41,938 points for the almost same amount of time that my CPU was estimating 10,648 points.
I used to do WCG back in the day, many years ago, and spent years at it. Then GPUs came along and just outdid our points in a matter of months.
There's no way I could run this in the summer time (3rd story apt in the sun) but in the winter, it's a good way to keep our computer room warm when it gets cold. (Cold for California anyway).
Audible difference between the Wraith Spire and the Hyper 212 is night and day... can't even tell my computer is on with the 212.
Noticing the room heat up with almost 390W being pulled at the plug (Kill-A-Watt).
The GPU is estimating 41,938 points for the almost same amount of time that my CPU was estimating 10,648 points.
I used to do WCG back in the day, many years ago, and spent years at it. Then GPUs came along and just outdid our points in a matter of months.
There's no way I could run this in the summer time (3rd story apt in the sun) but in the winter, it's a good way to keep our computer room warm when it gets cold. (Cold for California anyway).
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