Man TSMC really need to update that logo. Straight outta the corporate 80's!
This. People always say "Samsung won't notice - they have other customers to take up the production capacity if Apple moves to someone else." They're forgetting two important things:
- What other mobile device manufacturer is ordering 300+ million high-end processors per year?
- And as mentioned above, any production that moves from Samsung to TSMC means less R&D money for Samsung and more for TSMC (one of their primary competitors). It's never good to see billions of dollars in business go to a competitor.
Samsung sealed a deal to be the only manufacturer of Qualcomm snapdragon processors and is making there next gen snapdragon 830 monster along with the next generation exynos CPUs and has 10nm tapped out
Samsung sealed a deal to be the only manufacturer of Qualcomm snapdragon processors and is making there next gen snapdragon 830 monster along with the next generation exynos CPUs and has 10nm tapped out
Apple moving away from them is still a fairly significant chuck of business they are losing.
Interestingly what I see happening is that greater bandwidth to RAM will benefit the GPU substantially. On most of the so called APU designs out there the biggest performance problem isn't the GPU cores but their ability to get to RAM. People may be in for a surprise in this respect.
the gen 2 14nm fab that is up and running now is also alot better then tsmc 16nm
how do you know it's not because Samsung needed it's own fabs to make there own chips and to manufacture Qualcomm chips? you do know all the galaxy s7s and s7 edges in the USA use a snapdragon 820 built by Samsung right? they also needed there fabs for max capacity of there exynos mongoose soc in the rest of there line up.
Samsung made an awesome deal with Qualcomm and got basically a free chip to use in the gs7 in the USA while.have you seen the last sales report on Samsung with there gs7 flagship phones? maybe just maybe Samsung couldn't even meet the demand they needed for there own chips along Qualcomms.
the gen 2 14nm fab that is up and running now is also alot better then tsmc 16nm
...First, it is helpful to understand why InFO-WLP (Integrated Fan-Out Wafer-Level Packing) is such an important development for Apple's mobile processors. Typically, chips as large as CPUs or mobile SoCs have been attached via "flip-chip" methods which attach an array of inputs and outputs to a package substrate via solder bumps, ultimately enabling it to be attached to a printed circuit board (PCB) for device integration.
From the start, this is a compromise, as it would be preferable to attach a silicon die directly to the PCB to minimize height and reduce the lengths of interconnects between components. A number of technical limits in areas such as interconnect pitch, board produceability, and damage due to board warpage typically prevent this direct attachment. ...
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Apple's A10 processor orders are likely larger than any other single mobile processor on the market. Heck the A10 will probably be in more devices than any other newly released processor across all phone manufactures. It would be silly for Samsung to turn away Apple's business.
The gen 2 14nm fab that is running now might be better than the last ssmc 16nm but doubt it will be much better then the gen2 16nm lol. This entire article is based on why Apple chose TSMC because it was better. TSMC's 16nm fab was better then Samsung's 14nm, you admit it your self. What makes you think only Samsung made improvements to their process in the last year?
um Samsung tapped out 10nm snapdragon 830 and mongoose 2 is being built in 10nm to complete with the a10 next year. Samsung's fabs are at full capacity right now to keep demand up for there own phones.there is no way Samsung could sign a contract with Apple considering how Strick apple is with its guide lines on massive bulk orders.
plain and simple Samsung could not meet apples demands along with feeding there own demand let's not forget the flip side of this story as Qualcomm anouced it will only use Samsung as it's fab and ditched tsmc because of the horrible relationship they had with the burning hot snapdragon 810 tsmc built.
Sorry, I call BS unless you can provide a source that says Samsung fabs are running at full capacity.
And it's funny Apple never had issues with TSMC processors using the same process as the 810. Perhaps Qualcomm engineers just aren't as good as Apples.
fully agree if its thinner it must be better.Well I think we all know why this was really admitted...
Steve Jobs would've never attached the silicon die directly to the PCB to minimize height and reduce the lengths of interconnects between components.
Put down the Koolaid. If you believe just applying 91 watts to an A10 is going to 'magically' produce performance equal to a i7-6700k you're sadly mistaken. ARM is tailored for max performance at low watts while Intel's chips are for pure performance. There's a reason why Intel has been having a hard time getting their chips to perform really well at low wattages. Apple would have the same problem trying to scale their low power designs up to high wattage performance.It's the most significant SoC advance in a decade. The overall performance of the system will be many fold greater. We're looking at a huge reduction in power between major components with a similar large increase in both communications speed and bandwidth. There will be absolutely no way Apple will be able to not infringe upon Mactel performance and promises a major shift in computing to mobile, obsoleting the need for Intel Processors in most of Apple's devices, dare I say even Mac...
the gen 2 14nm fab that is up and running now is also alot better then tsmc 16nm
I disagree. A better chip could mean better battery life for iPhone and better performance for iPad. A9x is still a bit inferior to core m brodwell according to anandtech, so IMHO improvement is needed for the iPad to level up (or for use in mac... I wonder what can be done with a 4 core A10x)The truth is, A-series chips are good enough already.
Wouldn't that be highly distracting when making a call on the next iPhone?This chip is going to scream performance.