how will you feel if Apple fit the iPod Touch rear camera in the iPad2

[ReallyBigFeet]

I won't "feel" anything as I have no use for a camera on the iPad 2 in the first place. If its there, fine. If its not there, fine. If its there but basically the same thing as the iPod Touch, fine.

Its like adding boobs on a bullfrog. Interesting, but not really.

 

[Nishi100]

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iPod touch has a .7 mega pixel camera that can do 720p recording at 30 fps. Hopefully this is not the one on iPad 2 cause will look horrible on a 9.7 inch screen. I'm hopping it will have the current iPhone 4 camera 5 megapixel also capple of 720p 30fps. So I'm expecting apple to up the iPhone five camera to ATLEAST to record 1080p 30fps so the iphone will always have the advantage in cameras! It's currently 5mp 720 at 30 fps.

But we will see hopefully the camera on the iPad 2 isn't bad

But I also think more ram speed lightness and better display are more important to me! Not the I cant be usefull, I'm just saying how many cameras do you need!

I can see Apple doing this:

iPad 2 - 5mp - 720p
iPhone 5 - 8mp - 1080p - something cool

 

[ucfgrad93]

Great business move on their part, and we are all dumb for falling for it time and time again.

Well, that is the thing. You don't have to buy every version that Apple produces. For example, my wife had an original iPhone and she didn't upgrade until the iPhone 4. We'll both probably skip the next gen iPhone and get the one released in 2012.

People just need to get out of the mindset that they have to have the latest and greatest.

 

[ssdeg7]

I still don't understand the need of the back camera, it's like having two cameras in my MacBook.

 

[0815]

Simple question really.

If the iPad 2 gets the same camera unit, with no flash, and lower resolution/spec that is currently fitted to the iPod Touch, rather than the all round better unit that's fitted to the iPhone4, how will you feel?

Personally, I will be very disappointed given that this is their product to "show what they can do with" and they are supposed to be leading the field in this new marketplace.

Of course you may disagree and feel it's the best thing for them to do to fit the lower end unit.

better than nothing, probably good enough for face time and other limited applications.

 

[skiltrip]

I think the iPod touche's camera is actually more appropriate on the iPad than it is on the iPod touch.

Here's what I mean...

1.) It's all you need for FaceTime, and was Apple's real drive to put it on the iPod touch, and it's their main drive for putting it on the iPad too. It works fine and dandy for that, and the HD video it shoots is quite good as a bonus.

2.) People are more likely to use a small device like the Touch as a camera for taking stills, than an iPad. I couldn't imagine chasing my daughter around with an iPad asking her to smile at it. You're more likely to want to carry around an actual still camera than the iPod for capturing quick shots, whereas the iPod is thinner than my little Canon SD1400, so I often don't have my Canon and only have the iPod with me.

All that said, I still kinda sneer at the still cam's resolution, and when I do have a good shot for the taking, I wish I had higher rez at my disposal. But for Christmas, my wife actually had some 4x6 photos made of shots I took of us on the iPod touch, and they pretty darn good in a frame. I actually had no faith in how the prints were going to come out, but they look really good.

 

[Itxdjx]

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I can see Apple doing this:

iPad 2 - 5mp - 720p
iPhone 5 - 8mp - 1080p - something cool

O I agree then I might have to get the five if it has 8...lol

 

[Roessnakhan]

I would hope the iPad would at least have an AF camera - if you're using the iPad as a note taking replacement (or as a barcode scanner) it would make things far better to have the AF feature of the iPhone to the tap-exposure of the iPod touch.

 

[Piggie]

Does not anyone feel like me that it's how Apple as a company handle the device that shows you what they think about it?

What I mean buy this is, the iPod Touch is of course built and specced as a cheaper and lower end product than the iPhone.

It is in effect and iPhone with a cheaper screen a lower quality camera etc.

So we know it's position in the product range and how Apple sees the product and keeps it Down, below the more desirable iPhone.

So how are they going to handle the iPad?

Irrespective of what you use the device, for, it says a lot, what apple fit.

Do the tell us all (by what they do) that this is a premium product that's very important to them, and as it's a premium product they are going to show it, but fitting the top end hardware.

Or are they going to fit lower end parts, which may be good enough for some people, but will also shout loud and clear that they are not seeing their tablet as one of their premium products and is on their second rung, along with the touch.

I could see them having two tablets, a high end and a low end, but to tell everyone that your iPad is not worthy to have the better hardware fitted does say more by it's action than any spoken words say.

 

[Carouser]

Say in this instance you have a space for a camera. You could fit in a 5 dollar camera or a ten dollar camera. They both fit, they both draw about the same amount of power. The better one will be a higher resolution, look better on a larger screen, allow perhaps better document photo's due to resolution, and also (and many other benefits) then for the sake of 5 dollars, which select the cheaper model?

Yes, if you make up price and capability to fit your argument, and if you ignore the fact that demand (from Apple) will affect the cost of these components, then you might have a compelling point. Otherwise, it's worthless.

Edit: Consider the iPhone: given 50 million sold since introduction, an extra $5 per unit is a quarter of a billion dollars.

 

[saberahul]

I'm more interested in a front facing camera for FaceTime than I am for a rear facing camera.

So is everyone else.

 

[Dr McKay]

I wont be buying one unless its absolutely completely better than the iPad, or untill my current iPad dies.

Considering the iPod Touch rear camera is about 0.7 Megapixels, Im pretty sure they'd be really blurry just being displayed on the iPad screen.

 

[Piggie]

So is everyone else.

Don't speak for all of us please.

Whilst I don't mind a front facing camera being fitted I will never use facetime.

Or should I say video calling, we've had it in the UK for the past decade on mobile phones and I've never actually seen anyone making a video call.

I can understand it's good for a gimmick, to show off the device with, or to show granny how the kids are growing up.

But for daily use, for most people?

I'd be more than happy with a nice rear camera with flash and not even fit a front camera for video calling.

 

[gatearray]

Why is the iPod Touch camera lower quality than the iPhone 4?

Anyone here curious at all, or is it just so easy to chalk it up to mean old Apple trying to be cheap and spoil your fun?

The iPod Touch is too thin to house the camera on the iPhone 4. The iPod rear camera is optimized for video at a set focal length, unlike the iPhone 4.

So my guess is, because the iPad has more than enough room to house the identical camera that's in the iPhone 4, it will be a given they'll use the same component in the new iPad. There's no reason not to— all of these camera modules are comparably inexpensive to begin with.

 

[Piggie]

Anyone here curious at all, or is it just so easy to chalk it up to mean old Apple trying to be cheap and spoil your fun?

The iPod Touch is too thin to house the camera on the iPhone 4. The iPod rear camera is optimized for video at a set focal length, unlike the iPhone 4.

So my guess is, because the iPad has more than enough room to house the identical camera that's in the iPhone 4, it will be a given they'll use the same component in the new iPad. There's no reason not to— all of these camera modules are comparably inexpensive to begin with.

Indeed, I agree with you.

My natural reaction if you asked me, as I've seen the giant space inside the iPad case, the story about the iPod Touch being too small to house the iPhone4's camera unit and the breakdown of costs showing the camera unit in the iPhone4 actually only costs Ten Dollars.

It seems a no brainer that of course the iPad will have the same, nice quality (for a mobile device) camera unit that's in the iPhone4

Of course it would. Anything else would just be mean and penny pinching just to save a few dollars in build cost, and attract much criticism from the media if they did.

So yes, the natural, obvious and rational view would be, yes, of course it will get the nicer camera and not the cut down smaller unit that has to be squeezed into the tiny iPodTouch case.

The only puzzle in this line of thinking, is that the demo case designs that have been leaked out so far only have 1 small round hole for the camera lens and no apparent cut away for a flash unit/led.

Perhaps they are fake cases, perhaps they are early designs, but it's a bit puzzling as if you were going to fit a camera of the same spec as the iPhone4 which would seem the obvious thing to do, then you would not leave out the flash unit do it was unable to take indoor shots would you?

As I said, this is a puzzle.

 

[henry2]

since i do not socalled face time with a camera and i want to take a picture i use a digtal camera to that picture i want to take..

now the other specials on ipad the only thing i want is a bigger hardrive on the ipad and that about it ..

 

[Carouser]

the breakdown of costs showing the camera unit in the iPhone4 actually only costs Ten Dollars.

Yup, we discussed the iPhone in this thread, let me paraphrase myself:

Consider the iPhone: given 50 million sold since introduction, a camera at $10 per unit is half a billion dollars.

Apple may very well include the same camera in the iPad as the current iPhone, assuming that doing so would recoup the cost. Suppose (1) it actually costs $10, and continues to do so, even when Apple buys twice as many of them and (2) Apple has no incentive to put a different camera in the iPad, one which would satisfy most consumers but is cheaper than the iPhone's. The former is believable, the latter is pretty speculative, but I'm glad you think your opinion is "the natural, obvious and rational view" But my goodness, no cutout for a flash unit, very puzzling indeed, what on Earth could be going on at Cupertino!?

 

[fertilized-egg]

I know I'm in the minority but does anyone else think it's actually a good idea to have the better camera upfront so that we get better low light performance for Facetime?

 

[BigDukeSix]

All I know is they better put in at least the same quality camera's that's on the IPhone 4.

 

[Piggie]

I know I'm in the minority but does anyone else think it's actually a good idea to have the better camera upfront so that we get better low light performance for Facetime?

Perhaps you are better looking than the rest of us and need the extra detail to show off your mind blowing beauty

Seriously, it's funny to see all the nice looking well groomed people, with their hard and make-up all done in any facetime ads.

Not much like reality probably and perhaps one of the reasons Video Calling has never caught on despite being around for so many years. Many people just don't want to worry what they look like, or what they are doing whilst they are talking on the phone.

 

[Uofmtiger]

I think they will give some thought to how many people will actually want to pay for a better rear camera. I don't think I would ever use it...I also don't think there is a huge market that wants to take pics with something as large as the iPad ( but that is just my opinion based on the fact that I don't see anyone making huge consumer cameras). I might use a front facing camera, but even that feature would not get much use. Of course, they have to put the front facing camera into it for FaceTime.

A much better screen and a significant increase in speed would be the main reasons I would update to a new iPad. Also, audio out via USB would be nice (assuming they did not cripple it like the USB with the camera accessory).

To be honest, the current version of the iPad pretty much does everything and more(airplay) than I expected. It will be difficult to rationalize an upgrade without the updates I mentioned.

 

[Piggie]

I think they will give some thought to how many people will actually want to pay for a better rear camera. I don't think I would ever use it...I also don't think there is a huge market that wants to take pics with something as large as the iPad ( but that is just my opinion based on the fact that I don't see anyone making huge consumer cameras). I might use a front facing camera, but even that feature would not get much use. Of course, they have to put the front facing camera into it for FaceTime.

A much better screen and a significant increase in speed would be the main reasons I would update to a new iPad. Also, audio out via USB would be nice (assuming they did not cripple it like the USB with the camera accessory).

To be honest, the current version of the iPad pretty much does everything and more(airplay) than I expected. It will be difficult to rationalize an upgrade without the updates I mentioned.

Actually I do agree.

Ramp the speed right up, twin better speakers, higher res screen and a bluetooth games controller and I'll be very happy,

 

[Maaz]

All I care for is a front camera

 

[xraytech]

Simple question really.

If the iPad 2 gets the same camera unit, with no flash, and lower resolution/spec that is currently fitted to the iPod Touch, rather than the all round better unit that's fitted to the iPhone4, how will you feel?

Personally, I will be very disappointed given that this is their product to "show what they can do with" and they are supposed to be leading the field in this new marketplace.

Of course you may disagree and feel it's the best thing for them to do to fit the lower end unit.

I would feel nothing.

Using the iPad to take photos would be kinda awkward IMHO. Makes more practical sense to me to spec the camera to be adequate enough for FaceTime.