How's your original SS holding up?

danmart

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I'm planning to buy a Series 3 when they are inevitably launched later this year and the question for me will be: regular stainless or space-black stainless steel?

My SB watch has held up fantastically. I was wondering if people who bought the regular SS watch at launch two years ago could post pics of how their watch has held up to daily wear?
 

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Mine Is still looking new. Also, with the help of the Cape Cod cloth which will remove most of the scratches. The 316L does scratch easily, being it's a softer metal. But I have no regrets purchasing it and will likely be my next choice again depending on what Apple does with the upgrades. My black stainless is in mint condition due to the diamond like carbon coating.
 

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My magic 8ball and experience of Apple :)

Mine Is still looking new. Also, with the help of the Cape Cod cloth which will remove most of the scratches. The 316L does scratch easily, being it's a softer metal. But I have no regrets purchasing it and will likely be my next choice again depending on what Apple does with the upgrades. My black stainless is in mint condition due to the diamond like carbon coating.
Any chance of a photo?
 

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As you can see, the stainless Apple Watch I own is mint condition being used and it helps with the aid of the Cape cod cloth to polish it every once in a while. Also, is my black stainless Watch scratch free completely with the help of the DLC coating. (Which I don't use the Cape Cod Cloth for my black stainless.)

Here is another thread showing what the stainless model looks like before and after with the use of the Cape cod cloth.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/cape-cod-a-must-for-ss-owners.2039747/
 
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I'm planning to buy a Series 3 when they are inevitably launched later this year and the question for me will be: regular stainless or space-black stainless steel?
The first update from Series 1 to Series 2 was after two years, why would Series 3 be just a year later? Nope, I'm not a believer.

Edit: and to add to that, the Series wasn't dramatically different, it took them two years to implement a better screen, processor and GPS. I hardly believe you will see a series 3 this year.
 

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[As you can see, the stainless Apple Watch I own is mint condition being used and it helps with the aid of the Cape cod cloth to polish it every once in a while. Also, is my black stainless Watch scratch free completely with the help of the DLC coating. (Which I don't use the Cape Cod Cloth for my black stainless.)
Thanks, that looks really good.

The first update from Series 1 to Series 2 was after two years, why would Series 3 be just a year later? Nope, I'm not a believer.
It was 18 months between the first two releases, and a Christmas ('holiday') release makes far more sense than a summer release in my opinion.

Edit: and to add to that, the Series wasn't dramatically different, it took them two years to implement a better screen, processor and GPS. I hardly believe you will see a series 3 this year.
As an owner of an original watch the step up in processor alone to a series 3 would make a change worthwhile. The Series 0 Watch feels like a first-gen product even though I was happy to buy that at the time.
 

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As you can see, the stainless Apple Watch I own is mint condition being used and it helps with the aid of the Cape cod cloth to polish it every once in a while. Also, is my black stainless Watch scratch free completely with the help of the DLC coating. (Which I don't use the Cape Cod Cloth for my black stainless.)

Here is another thread showing what the stainless model looks like before and after with the use of the Cape cod cloth.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/cape-cod-a-must-for-ss-owners.2039747/
Man, I need to pick up some of those cloths. Mine has a few scratches/dings (nothing major), screen is flawless... but yours looks brand new.
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As an owner of an original watch the step up in processor alone to a series 3 would make a change worthwhile. The Series 0 Watch feels like a first-gen product even though I was happy to buy that at the time.
Same here. Also gives me an excuse to buy a Hermes.
 

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Man, I need to pick up some of those cloths. Mine has a few scratches/dings (nothing major), screen is flawless... but yours looks brand new.
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Same here. Also gives me an excuse to buy a Hermes.
They work really good. And I think they're only approximately five dollars. But worth every cent per with minimal effort it takes to remove the scratches off.
 

douglasf13

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Mine Is still looking new. Also, with the help of the Cape Cod cloth which will remove most of the scratches. The 316L does scratch easily, being it's a softer metal. But I have no regrets purchasing it and will likely be my next choice again depending on what Apple does with the upgrades. My black stainless is in mint condition due to the diamond like carbon coating.
316L isn't particularly soft, unless you're comparing to Sinn's Tegiment steel. Rolex's 904L steel is actually slightly softer.

My SS Watch looks like most of my steel watches: a pristine sapphire with lots of tiny scratches on the steel. No biggie. Steel looks good a little worn in, although I'd love to see a brushed steel model someday.
 

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316L isn't particularly soft, unless you're comparing to Sinn's Tegiment steel. Rolex's 904L steel is actually slightly softer.
I disagree. (Which I'm not also comparing other metals here) The 316 L stainless for the Apple Watch is particularly soft and is a very dense metal. It takes very little effort to scratch or cause any type of indentation on the casing. I don't know of anyone else using a Rolex that accompanies 904L in comparison, but the stainless steel Apple Watch obviously is more populated.

But if you factor in the black stainless steel Apple Watch with the diamond like carbon coating, that watch has a much higher durability because of the protective layer over the 316L Stainless.

If you research on the Apple Watch forum, there are threads that discuss users experiencing damage to the stainless steel Apple Watch with very little effort or contact with the hard object that can cause damage, which may or may not be able to be removed with a Cape Cod Cloth depending on The severity.

But I do agree, that minor abrasions or scratches do give the Apple Watch character and it's meant not to stay perfect.
 

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i think most consider 904l to be a little tougher than 316l when it comes to scratch resistance, though it's close. there are different measures of scratch resistance from a materials science perspective, and it's a bit of a toss-up when comparing those two depending upon exactly what scale you are looking at and who is producing the steel. but most rolex watches hold up a bit better in that department compared to your standard, cheaper 316l case. that said, the primary reason rolex uses 904l as i understand it is because of it's increased resistance to corrosion. comes in handy when regularly exposed to salt water and in those tiny recesses of a case (like where gaskets sit) where water and/or salt might collect or sit a bit longer than normal.

apple reportedly cold-forges their 316l to be stronger than the average run-of-the-mill 316l. you can do a number of different physical things after the fact to make the same chemical formulation stronger. but they aren't doing anything that makes their SS cases THAT much more scratch resistant than standard steel watch cases. but they do seem to be better at resisting big dings and dents. that might also be a function of the rounded, polished surface.

mine is in great shape but that's because i have it wrapped in an Armor Suit. Same with the crystal. however, as i have reported elsewhere, somehow the ceramic back has obtained a couple of small, mysterious scratches, which is a shame. they're odd, though. i can't feel them even when i run a piece of notebook paper over them. it's like they're either too small to be felt in any way, or under the surface. but under a loupe they clearly reflect light in such a way as they appear to have depth and be true scratches. and they won't polish away. i don't believe they are transfer marks. my ocd will obsess over them for a few more weeks and then hopefully i'll settle in and be able to live with them :) just wabi-sabi, as the japanese say.

when looking under the loupe i also detected some extremely small marks on the tiny uncovered areas of the steel (like on the crown and the pieces you push to remove the bands. but overall the watch looks great. and as has been said many times, a cape cod will buff it back to a wonderful shine.
 
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I disagree. (Which I'm not also comparing other metals here) The 316 L stainless for the Apple Watch is particularly soft and is a very dense metal. It takes very little effort to scratch or cause any type of indentation on the casing. I don't know of anyone else using a Rolex that accompanies 904L in comparison, but the stainless steel Apple Watch obviously is more populated.

But if you factor in the black stainless steel Apple Watch with the diamond like carbon coating, that watch has a much higher durability because of the protective layer over the 316L Stainless.

If you research on the Apple Watch forum, there are threads that discuss users experiencing damage to the stainless steel Apple Watch with very little effort or contact with the hard object that can cause damage, which may or may not be able to be removed with a Cape Cod Cloth depending on The severity.

But I do agree, that minor abrasions or scratches do give the Apple Watch character and it's meant not to stay perfect.
My point is that Apple isn't using a soft steel. ALL steel watches get scratches by rubbing on just about anything that isn't soft, as all of my steel mechanical watches show. My Apple watch doesn't show any more or less scratches than my mechanicals. I think gadget lovers just tend to be more anal about it, thus the complaints.
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i think most consider 904l to be a little tougher than 316l when it comes to scratch resistance, though it's close. there are different measures of scratch resistance from a materials science perspective, and it's a bit of a toss-up when comparing those two depending upon exactly what scale you are looking at and who is producing the steel. but most rolex watches hold up a bit better in that department compared to your standard, cheaper 316l case. that said, the primary reason rolex uses 904l as i understand it is because of it's increased resistance to corrosion. comes in handy when regularly exposed to salt water and in those tiny recesses of a case (like where gaskets sit) where water and/or salt might collect or sit a bit longer than normal.

apple reportedly cold-forges their 316l to be stronger than the average run-of-the-mill 316l. you can do a number of different physical things after the fact to make the same chemical formulation stronger. but they aren't doing anything that makes their SS cases THAT much more scratch resistant than standard steel watch cases. but they do seem to be better at resisting big dings and dents. that might also be a function of the rounded, polished surface.

mine is in great shape but that's because i have it wrapped in an Armor Suit. Same with the crystal. however, as i have reported elsewhere, somehow the ceramic back has obtained a couple of small, mysterious scratches, which is a shame. they're odd, though. i can't feel them even when i run a piece of notebook paper over them. it's like they're either too small to be felt in any way, or under the surface. but under a loupe they clearly reflect light in such a way as they appear to have depth and be true scratches. and they won't polish away. i don't believe they are transfer marks. my ocd will obsess over them for a few more weeks and then hopefully i'll settle in and be able to live with them :) just wabi-sabi, as the japanese say.

when looking under the loupe i also detected some extremely small marks on the tiny uncovered areas of the steel (like on the crown and the pieces you push to remove the bands. but overall the watch looks great. and as has been said many times, a cape cod will buff it back to a wonderful shine.
As an owner of both 904L Rolex and 316L watches from other brands, I'd say the 904L might show scratches slightly more, and many Rolex forum members would agree, but there really isn't much in it, and I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between the "scratchability" of my Rolex 904L, 316L and Apple Watches.

Rolex did initially switch to 904L in some of their dive watches, because of the corrosion resistance, but the later switch across the whole line is primary due to marketing and the slightly different color and polish characteristics of the 904L steel.
 
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As you can see, the stainless Apple Watch I own is mint condition being used and it helps with the aid of the Cape cod cloth to polish it every once in a while. Also, is my black stainless Watch scratch free completely with the help of the DLC coating. (Which I don't use the Cape Cod Cloth for my black stainless.)

Here is another thread showing what the stainless model looks like before and after with the use of the Cape cod cloth.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/cape-cod-a-must-for-ss-owners.2039747/
Man the black SS is so sexy.

Still trying to decide between silver or black SS for when the Series 3 comes out.
 

sboychuck

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My Series 2 SB SS is holding up great after six months. I wear it all day long, every day. It is incredibly rugged and just looks great. I have extra bands to dress it up for going out, and basic bands for work and everyday. I bought it refurbished and enjoyed a $90 savings. It is a bit of a luxury item, but I find myself not pulling out my iPhone as much, which is nice. Texting and taking phone calls is also very handy.
 

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Great but wish this battery would bloat ;) have a reason to do AC+ claim and get a new battery since they wouldn't let me do one just because.
 

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