HOWTO: 2880x1800 Without Scaling in OS X

[surjavarman]

What do you mean picture quality? Unlike the HiDPI modes (the mode that makes things look larger on high pixel density displays) applications actually work correctly . If you are talking about actual pictures then the quality will be just as good or better on the non HiDPI mode.

If an app does not support HiDPI mode then it gets its resolution dropped to 1/4th and scaled up making it look bad. This does not happen on the non-HiDPI mode but instead its smaller.

Some things are rendered or can be sized up in the app itself which will make them look far better than the HiDPI mode (only apps with lack of HiDPI support).

For example in microsoft office or acrobat you can have it increase text sizes and what not when running non HiDPI mode and get the text size at the size you want and of retina quality. With images its pretty dependent on the resolution of the image. If its a high resolution image then it will be the same or better in an app that does not support HiDPI mode.

Rendered things will for sure be better in non HiDPI mode if the app does not support it.

Here is an example. In HiDPI mode go to maps.google.com and enable google earth inside safari. Look at how crappy google earth looks. Now do the same at the native 2880x1800 (non HiDPI mode) and it looks awesome. Even though safari supports HiDPI google earth does not so your wasting the display on it.

Well I am talking about for example Chrome at 150% zoom with 2880x1800 vs Chrome at 75% zoom with best for retina. Or other apps where the fonts are adjusted appropriately according to readability. Which one looks better? So pictures will look better on native 2880x1800

What about performance and battery life. If it does not need to scale when using native 2880x1800 then it does not need to waste resources on calculations. Thus increasing battery life and performance of the UI. Am I correct to assume that?

 

[houkouonchi]

Well I am talking about for example Chrome at 150% zoom with 2880x1800 vs Chrome at 75% zoom with best for retina. Or other apps where the fonts are adjusted appropriately according to readability. Which one looks better? So pictures will look better on native 2880x1800

What about performance and battery life. If it does not need to scale when using native 2880x1800 then it does not need to waste resources on calculations. Thus increasing battery life and performance of the UI. Am I correct to assume that?

As far as the battery life yes I would definitely assume its more effecient and easier on the CPU. This is likely why i never see the lag issues people talk about.

Well i guess it depends if chrome is zooming the images and text (I know firefox does not require you do both). Both methods will be doing scaling. In one you will be using Apple's OS scaling and in the other you will be using chrome's scaling. It really just comes down to which one is better as far as which one looks better (in regards to images).

 

[houkouonchi]

Awesome! I remember tripping on my Pentium III Dell Inspiron with a 1600x1200 IBM 15" LCD over a decade ago. It's about time something higher res came out. Apple, hurry up and ship my RMBP!

sounds like we are pretty similar.

Yup I had that one too. Inspiron 8000. P3 900 Mhz, 1600x1200 display radeon 7500 if memory serves. Next one was dell inspiron 8600 (1920x1200 in 15.4 inches) pentium-m 1.6 Ghz.

Also have and use the IBM T221 @ work (3840x2400 @ 22.2 inches).

 

[teknikk7]

Ok, my first post. Long time lurker here needs help. My rMBP is a few days old I have been playing with switchresx then some other script which quickly changes the rMBP to its native 2880x1800, great little app.

Anyhow, my default settings have gone all screwy. See screenshots, my resolutions are all wrong. The first three change nothing at all, where the second to the last changes it to 960x600 and the last one to 1440x900.

Can someone email me the original preference pane for the rMBP. Would this even fix the issue?

Thanks guys!

teknikk7@gmail.com

 

[PEN10k]

I known I might sound stupid now, but what is "scaling"??

 

[orangesauce]

I work at a datacenter for a web-hosting company. Here is a picture taken just a few minutes ago. You can see the left monitor (my highest resolution 3840x2400 22 inch monitor) just has tons of terminals on it.

Ah yes, the IBM T-221, I love this display. The DG3 and DG4 versions are a little hard to use because of the slow refresh, but the DG5 is supposedly better. I had a DG4, and the only reason I upgraded to a rMBP was because I could get the same DPI in a laptop.

Now, they've completely disabled SetRes in 10.8.2. This is utterly ridiculous. What was the best laptop I've ever owned bar none just came down a few thousand feet. I AM SO DISAPPOINTED RIGHT NOW!!!!!

 

[houkouonchi]

Ah yes, the IBM T-221, I love this display. The DG3 and DG4 versions are a little hard to use because of the slow refresh, but the DG5 is supposedly better. I had a DG4, and the only reason I upgraded to a rMBP was because I could get the same DPI in a laptop.

Now, they've completely disabled SetRes in 10.8.2. This is utterly ridiculous. What was the best laptop I've ever owned bar none just came down a few thousand feet. I AM SO DISAPPOINTED RIGHT NOW!!!!!

That one is a 9503-DGP. It is basically a DG-5 but the japanese model that did not have a converter box. I have a seperate converter someone made which allows it to take two dual link DVI connections and it runs at 48Hz like the DG-5.

 

[Sir Al]

Ok, my first post. Long time lurker here needs help. My rMBP is a few days old I have been playing with switchresx then some other script which quickly changes the rMBP to its native 2880x1800, great little app.

Anyhow, my default settings have gone all screwy. See screenshots, my resolutions are all wrong. The first three change nothing at all, where the second to the last changes it to 960x600 and the last one to 1440x900.

Can someone email me the original preference pane for the rMBP. Would this even fix the issue?

Thanks guys!

teknikk7@gmail.com

Do you still have a problem? I could probably help you, sorry I haven't seen this sooner.

 

[herege]

Hello guys,

I'm with the same problem of teknikk7.

Anyone have any suggestions to put everything in default in my rMBP (Mountain Lion) ?

I uninstalled SwithresX but in System Preferences in Display the maximum resolution I can get is 1440x900 and the 3 firsts choices in Scaled doesm't do anything

Thanks all!