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Is it called DCI-P3 because 3 percent of users actually care?
After owning a LG 4k OLED HDR TV, I can honestly say that I was more impressed with HDR than with the 4K, wow the colours really are spectacular and crisp. The issue is the dearth of content, whilst Amazon offer a very small selection of 4k hdr content, it's quite lacklustre, the 4kHDR when played natively on the TV looks worse than the non hdr from my amazon fire 4k tv, both in 4K. I have also been advised that the compression and tricks amazon use to allow us to stream 4k is not the best. When i played 4k hdr content from a usb 3 pendrive, albeit, small samples, they looked incredible. it would be interesting to see 4k uhd hdr blurays, but having been free from physical media for a number of years now, this seems a regressive step, but really does showcase the best of 4k hdr, the alternative being massive files on a pen drive split into dozens of 4gb files, not ideal!
 
It supports a hub - kind of. If the numbers quoted are right, the monitor eats up 18GBit of 20GBit per second. That's 2GBit or 2,000 MBit per second left. USB-2 does 480 MBit per second, that slows down even an ordinary spinning hard drive. You could connect a hub with USB-3. You wouldn't come near the full 5 GBit/s, but your spinning hard drive would work at full or almost full speed, plus you can connect an iPhone and iPad for syncing, a scanner, an external DVD drive, lots of stuff.
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No, it's no problem. It just charges slower. A lot slower. 60Watt instead of 89Watt takes 50% longer to charge.

When using the 18Gbps there are no super speed pins left so USB 2 speed over the remaining 2 non-super speed pins is the maximum I'm afraid.

The only way to get USB 3 and graphics is to use a lower resolution that leaves super speed pins available.
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I wonder how two displays connected via USB-C would affect the charging. Would both charge the MBP and get around this 60W "issue"?

Apple said only the first charger connected is used.
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Yeah, I wasn't saying they are bad/good things but just showing those that denied Apples involvement in the LG displays that they did actually have involvement. I think that there should be more than USB-C, especially on the output for the LG displays. Understandable they want to make USB-C standard, but they should have included something like an sd card slot and an Ethernet port.

And miss a chance to sell more dongles? No way!
 
I wonder how two displays connected via USB-C would affect the charging. Would both charge the MBP and get around this 60W "issue"?
No, only one port can charge at once.
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True, but I burned up a MacBook Air PS by using it for a long period of time on a MacBook Pro. I didn't notice that it was smaller. So, I would be careful about the strain put on an under-powered PS powering a MBP. Of course, this is simply anecdotal, but I would hate to damage a monitor this way.

You won't be putting any strain on anything. Forget comparing it to Magsafe this is USB-C all the chargers are working at 100% capacity when charging, the 29w charger doesn't work "harder" to try and charge the 15" MacBook , it supplies the same 29w so the MBP just takes longer to charge.

This is just like USB charging on a bigger scale. Anything will charge anything safely, just slower. The same way you can charge your iPhone with any USB charger. The bundled one is only 1amp but we know thr iPhone wants 2.1amp to charge at full speed, no one is suggesting not to use the 1amp charger because its working too harder, it won't burn out, it just supplies it's 1amp max and the phone chargers at that speed.
 
Interesting. I've had HP displays in the past and hated them all. This is a no-go for me based on history. I need a new monitor. I tried the 4k LG that Apple sells. It's just too small and resolution really small for what you get. It was less than 2560x1440 at a size I could use it, so I lost screen real estate vs. the old 27" TB from Apple. Plus those terrible / worthless USB 2.0 ports (why????).

I've spent the week looking at every 4k monitor around and none are appealing to me at this time. 5k would be nice, but out of my price range at the moment. I've just gone with, for now, a 25" BenQ IPS, 100% sRGB, Rec. 709 color space, 2650x1440 designed for photo editing and calibrated well out of the box. I will use it mainly for photography, video editing and my day to day corporate work.

Why? I really want the usable SPACE of a 2560x1440. That LG scaled showed less than that. I'd get it with a 5k or a larger 4k I suppose, but then it's 3x the cost as well (or more). For $249, it will work for now until I get a larger 5k down the road, then it can make a good second monitor for tools, etc. when editing.
 
No, only one port can charge at once.

Not necessarily true ... I am running three of the Apple/LG 4k displays out of my 2016 TouchBar MacBook Pro. Sometimes, it shows charging and the battery stays at 100% in perpetuity. However, sometimes it shows not charging. It seems to depend upon the order in which I plug in the Displays ... hokey, I know. But, sometimes it works ...

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Launch your own damn P3 10 bit display, Apple. For damn sake. Yet yo **** together. No one wants HP or LG trash.

What next, license MacOS....?????
 
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Tim Cook and Apple are being humiliated by HP with this beautiful monitor and the HP mini

Tim Cook in the mean time deals in politics when other real tech companies innovate !

Good job Tim !
 
Not necessarily true ... I am running three of the Apple/LG 4k displays out of my 2016 TouchBar MacBook Pro. Sometimes, it shows charging and the battery stays at 100% in perpetuity. However, sometimes it shows not charging. It seems to depend upon the order in which I plug in the Displays ... hokey, I know. But, sometimes it works ...

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One port on the MacBook Pro i meant, that is true. Whichever you plug in that delivers PD first will charge the computer - you can't plug two 60w monitors in to it in the hope to achieve it's fastest charge rate, it doesn't work like that.
 
You know, at this rate, I won't be surprised if Apple contracts one of them to update the next Mac Pro...
The irony is that nowadays that'd give us a much better machine I guess...

Oh it hurts to say this.... :(

@ display
Holy ****, it's beautiful!

Glassed Silver:mac
 
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What if you use your MBPro flat out...Could it start to use up MORE than 60W? (And thus start to deplete the battery even though plugged in...)

I seem to recall that there was a generation of MBPros (perhaps the 2008 17") that only worked at full speed if it was both plugged in AND there was a battery connected - suggesting that at that time the included power brick (possibly a 85W one) couldn't supply enough power on its own.
 
Launch your own damn P3 10 bit display, Apple. For damn sake. Yet yo **** together. No one wants HP or LG trash.

What next, license MacOS....?????

Can't speak for HP, But LG is constantly ranked as one of the current leaders in Display Technologies.

"piece of trash" only applies if you think anything without the Apple logo sucks.

nevermind the fact that the displays in most of the MacBook (pro or not) are likely made by either Samsung or LG. Apple does NOT have their own inhouse display design or fabrication.
 
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HP Launches 4K ENVY Display With USB-C for New MacBook Pro

No.

HP Launches 4K ENVY Display With USB-C.

.. which the new Macbook Pro among others can use.
 
When there is a huge selection of monitors, drives, portable USB-C batteries, and devices that use the new USB standard then I'll consider getting a newer Mac. Just not this generation MacBook Pro. I wish the MacBook Pro would have taken advantage of all that space on the side for other ports.
I got a whole kit converting my new 15" MacBook Pro to usb C for about $120 notably including a 1TB USBC hard drive (Apple also has a LaCie Porsche Design USBC portable drives on sale too), HDMI adaptor, 4 usb to usb c tiny adaptors that all work flawlessly. Out of all these years of owning 3 different MacBooks from nonRMBP to an Air, getting a cable to connect to HDMI was proprietary for me
 
Just received this monitor and it is beautiful, BUT... it does not pass video and power over the USB-C cable. You need to use two cables and an HDMI adaptor to make this work on the MacBook Pro. Received the bad news from HP's polite customer support representative.. I will be returning it. For what it is worth, the ACER USB-C model does work with a single cable... it also has additional USB ports... just not quite as good looking as this HP.
 
Just received this monitor and it is beautiful, BUT... it does not pass video and power over the USB-C cable. You need to use two cables and an HDMI adaptor to make this work on the MacBook Pro. Received the bad news from HP's polite customer support representative.. I will be returning it. For what it is worth, the ACER USB-C model does work with a single cable... it also has additional USB ports... just not quite as good looking as this HP.

It does work with the 13' model. I'm using it now.
 
Are you sure? Timmy is in acting a little crazy at the moment.

I for one would buy an easily serviceable Dell running MacOS in a heartbeat as I'm sure many others would.
Almost everyone would opt for an upgradeable computer with up to date specs over the limited and obsolescent hardware that apple sells.
It would destroy their neglected computer lineup in a heartbeat if people could buy any computer and put any OS on it.
Or it would have to compete in specs and pricing with the rest of the manufacturers.
I think that they should let OSX go on any machine so that then they can stop peddling the fiction that they are still interested in computers and focus all of their energy on their phones and tablets and watches.
 
It does work with the 13' model. I'm using it now.

@dallison did you have to do anything special to get it to work? I just got the monitor and using the USB-C to USB-C cord included in the HP box I connected it to my MBPro 13" and the monitor's giving me an error (either that the USB-C is "unqualified" or "Input Signal is Not Found"). Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks.
 
@dallison did you have to do anything special to get it to work? I just got the monitor and using the USB-C to USB-C cord included in the HP box I connected it to my MBPro 13" and the monitor's giving me an error (either that the USB-C is "unqualified" or "Input Signal is Not Found"). Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks.
I had to switch the input on the monitor itself. That's it.
 
Those who are using 27-inch 4K monitors at 1440p Hi-DPI setting, how is the resolution quality at the next higher resolution setting after 1440p? And what is that setting?
 
Those who are using 27-inch 4K monitors at 1440p Hi-DPI setting, how is the resolution quality at the next higher resolution setting after 1440p? And what is that setting?

The resolution stays sharp throughout, although the font becomes really small.

The resolutions after 1440 are:
3008 x 1692
3360 x 1890
3840 x 2160
 
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I actually ordered this one to use with Retina MacBook, but cancelled the order as soon as I realized it doesn't have speakers like the LG models Apple sells. That's a deal kill for me.

Beautiful display though!
 
Terrible experience with this monitor. To sum it up, my monitor is sitting on my desk, broken after barely a month of use. Note: Bought from HP website directly.

Great panel for the money, definitely hard to beat right now. I bought it the first week it came out -- I was so excited opening this thing up, USB-C connection, sweet! However, first thing I noticed was how poorly the stand was designed (or maybe I got a defective one)! When trying to assemble the monitor with the monitor stand, it would fall off multiple times. I finally got it to stay and figured that it was good to go. However, that was just the start. The monitor would consistently fall off the stand -- within the first month of use it had fallen off randomly a total of five times. Luckily, each time the monitor fell and either I was there to catch it, or it slid into my office chair for a safe landing. Phew. Each time I would put the monitor back in the monitor stand and chalk it up to a weird accident.

However, this most recent time, it finally fell face-first and broke. At this point I was pretty upset, because it was an obvious problem with the monitor stand. So, I called customer support. I was disconnected once, and the second time I managed to speak to monitor support. Reasoning that a fault monitor stand led to the break of my monitor panel, my monitor should be replaced -- especially when it is the official monitor stand shipped with the monitor. I was told by both tiers of support that it was my fault and there was nothing they could do. I reasoned that the monitor stand I was given was faulty, and since the monitor stand adapter is proprietary, the monitor stand is part of the monitor, and therefore, my monitor is faulty. The monitor stand ultimately caused the drop of the monitor.

Unfortunately, both tiers of customer support will not budge and admit that my monitor stand is faulty, despite having pictures and videos. They keep telling me in circles that since 'I' dropped it, it is accidental. That is simply not true -- I am not the type of person to call customer support unless I really feel like something is fundamentally wrong with a product. Pouring water on a monitor, or the monitor dropping because of your cat pushing it is accidental. This broke simply because of the monitor stand, and it would have not broken otherwise, fact. I was also told 'no one else has reported this malfunction', so it isn't a problem. To me, this is very poor customer service, especially handling a 'luxury' Envy line.

I would avoid this product simply due to the unforgiving customer support, when you inevitably have a problem with this monitor. HP lost a customer for life. Save yourself the money and frustration!IMG_0478.JPG IMG_0480.JPG IMG_0481.JPG
 
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