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HP Launches 4K ENVY Display With USB-C for New MacBook Pro
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If Dell would updated their UP2715K to support Thunderbolt 3 [over USB-C], provide 90W to charge the new MacBook Pro, it would be perfect. Right now that is one of the reasons I have with the new MacBook Pro seeing I would need two mini-DisplayPort adapters just to get connect this monitor and then one for the power leaving me with a very lonely one USB-C port.
The LG 27" 5K display would be a great alternative too, if Apple would ever start selling the darn things!
(Note to Apple: Some of us bought the new MBP w/TB using the free financing offer, and we only have 30 days to aggregate other purchases in that deal. I'd like very much to add two 5K displays to my order, if I could. I'm down to a week...)
(Note to Apple: Some of us bought the new MBP w/TB using the free financing offer, and we only have 30 days to aggregate other purchases in that deal. I'd like very much to add two 5K displays to my order, if I could. I'm down to a week...)
True, but I burned up a MacBook Air PS by using it for a long period of time on a MacBook Pro. I didn't notice that it was smaller. So, I would be careful about the strain put on an under-powered PS powering a MBP. Of course, this is simply anecdotal, but I would hate to damage a monitor this way.
It WILL charge it, but it'll take quite a bit longer.
Right - (sadly)
(correction, it might slowly charge - didn't read the other guys posts. Hmmmmm. The reason I am interested is that there is a pretty cool dock out there by OWC that does 60 Watts, but I held off on it because I was angry it couldn't do 87 Watts needed by my new MBP 15" - hmmmm - Might go get the dock and try it out if it will actually charge. Local dealers here don't even have the 87W Apple USB-C charger in stock - so I want a charging solution for home and office and don't quite have it figured out yet).
I use a Dell P2715Q with the "looks like 2560 X 1440" setting and agree that it looks just fine to me for what I do.
What was widely reported was that Apple was not supporting one particular TI chipset which, per TI, has some issues with two port Alpine Ridge systems.
It was also widely reported that Apple supports the TI part that is recommended for TB3 systems.
What was not reported anywhere that I can find is the idea that Apple even has, let alone exclusively supports, their own proprietary TB3 chipset.
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In a heartbeat. I would sell my MBP and iMac, and all my effing external HDs and consolidate storage inside the box like a real computer
For those asking about the 60W charging:
60W / 3A is the default power delivery over USB Type-C. The USB Type-C specification allows for "up to 100W" of power delivery, but there's really a big asterisk tied to that. It's left up to the manufacturer (in this case, HP) whether or not to implement a custom PD. Most simply choose to use the default PD.
In the case with the 2016 15" MBP, Apple went with a custom power delivery to account for the larger battery and the time it takes to charge such a battery. Hence why they went with an oddball 87W / 4.3A charger.
The 2016 15" MBP will charge just fine with this monitor. It'll just charge at 60W. Sure, that's slower than the 87W charger Apple gives you with the 15" MBP, but it'll still charge. It should be noted that the 2016 13" MBP will charge normally, since it charges at 60W.
60W / 3A is the default power delivery over USB Type-C. The USB Type-C specification allows for "up to 100W" of power delivery, but there's really a big asterisk tied to that. It's left up to the manufacturer (in this case, HP) whether or not to implement a custom PD. Most simply choose to use the default PD.
In the case with the 2016 15" MBP, Apple went with a custom power delivery to account for the larger battery and the time it takes to charge such a battery. Hence why they went with an oddball 87W / 4.3A charger.
The 2016 15" MBP will charge just fine with this monitor. It'll just charge at 60W. Sure, that's slower than the 87W charger Apple gives you with the 15" MBP, but it'll still charge. It should be noted that the 2016 13" MBP will charge normally, since it charges at 60W.
I wonder how two displays connected via USB-C would affect the charging. Would both charge the MBP and get around this 60W "issue"?
I don't believe it would. The MBP would accept only 60W total, since that is what the default power delivery from the monitor is. Plus, I assume it would only be drawing power from one monitor, usually the first in the daisy chain. The Type-C cable connecting monitors 1 and 2 would only be transmitting data sent from the MBP.
Imagine you are in your fifties, and your eyesight is not the best. And you have the choice between 21" 3840 x 2160 and 27" 3840 x 2160. Which one would you pick?
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Definitely not. The MacBooks use the one connector that supplies the most power for charging, that has been documented. Not the first connector, but the one that supplies most power. Two 60 Watt is just the same as one 60 Watt. However, the MacBook _does_ use the 60 Watt.
I meant two USB-C connections, one to each monitor. Does this particular monitor have a way to daisy chain from a single USB-C connection from the MBP?
It supports a hub - kind of. If the numbers quoted are right, the monitor eats up 18GBit of 20GBit per second. That's 2GBit or 2,000 MBit per second left. USB-2 does 480 MBit per second, that slows down even an ordinary spinning hard drive. You could connect a hub with USB-3. You wouldn't come near the full 5 GBit/s, but your spinning hard drive would work at full or almost full speed, plus you can connect an iPhone and iPad for syncing, a scanner, an external DVD drive, lots of stuff.
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No, it's no problem. It just charges slower. A lot slower. 60Watt instead of 89Watt takes 50% longer to charge.
Yeah, I wasn't saying they are bad/good things but just showing those that denied Apples involvement in the LG displays that they did actually have involvement. I think that there should be more than USB-C, especially on the output for the LG displays. Understandable they want to make USB-C standard, but they should have included something like an sd card slot and an Ethernet port.
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Ah, I misinterpreted you post,I'mm sorry.
Agree with the comment about the inclusion of ethernet and SD, but it looks like cheap docks are the way forward in this regards, especially if it allows daisy chaining thunderbolt 3.
I am sure you know that if you want something approaching Pro RGB or near 100% Adobe gamut, you're looking for an Eizo or an NEC. with (or BYO) a display calibrator. There's Dolby displays, too. BNC cables not included.
These ppi numbers don't make sense!
A 27" diagonal 3840x2160 display has 163 ppi.
A 31" diagonal 3840x2160 display has 142 ppi. Incidentally, this display would be 27" horizontally and 15.2" vertically.
So either this is a 31" diagonal display, or some marketing fool divided 3840 by 27 thinking 27" is the horizontal width.
I like this current war of 4k and up monitors. Hopelly in one year we can all get one at a very decent price. MY 1440p dell is not too old yet. I like the vesa mount option. can't live without one anymore and an articulated arm.
I will wait for dell to answer to these monitors.
I will wait for dell to answer to these monitors.
Came to say the same thing. I've been working off an iMac for awhile but I like the idea of going to something like this again. It may not have the best specs compared to others but wow it seems affordable for what you get. Keep in mind, I haven't shopped for external displays in quite awhile.