HP Reverses Course, Will Keep PC Unit

[firewood]

Tech companies require tech CEOs. And men make better leaders than women....just simple biology. The truth exists whether PC people want it to...or not.

Tell that to IBM. They just promoted the head of one of their most (massively) profitable units.

 

[vitzr]

For the sake of everyone that has an HP computer I am glad this decision was made. While I greatly prefer my MBP's, competition, direct or indirect is beneficial.

 

[Burger Thing]

There are plenty of readers here who exclusively take the contrarian (antagonistic) position - Apple is always wrong. So what's wrong with *LTD* exclusively occupying the opposite side of the table? Maybe readers like *LTD* (and me) seem to be 100% in Apple's corner only because we're always responding to the readers who believe Apple can do no right? The lack of objectivity causes commentary to gravitate to extreme sides of the spectrum.

Frankly I'd love for some of the trolls here to fade away so the discussion could be more open. Instead it's constant flame throwing and flame extinguishing. The mods, unfortunately, are content to allow the chronic trolls to frolic unfettered.

Funny how there are readers here who never have a single positive thing to say about Apple in their hundreds of posts, yet accuse anyone who takes the opposite side of being closed-minded. Not talking about you, per se, but there are plenty, and we all know who they are.

Also interesting to note is *LTD* can't say so much as "I like vanilla ice cream" without immediately getting 5 negative votes. Seems he has a little following of anti-groupies. Though I'm sure they're "open minded," right?

I totally agree and it is getting annoying. As soon as LTD post something, his personal "anti leech dog" pops up as well. Tiresome. And you are right about certain posters not posting anything but anti-apple drivel. It makes me wondering, if this place is actually being moderated at all. Because I thought I have read in the forum rules that flame bating and trolling is not allowed here? Well, with some individuals here they take a very liberal stand, IMHO.

 

[hchung]

If I may ask, which model of HP was this? I've had nothing but good experiences with a pair of Elitebooks, both for work and personal uses. Also, which PC laptops do you prefer?

My experience with HP laptops says that the business line laptops are solid. I gave my dad one and it lasted about 7 years until the GPU finally started to give out. On the other hand, their consumer line is complete garbage. An HP/Compaq CQ50 he got to replace it was designed so poorly that in the same environment, it jammed it's own heatsink full of crud and couldn't run for more than 15 minutes without triggering it's own hardware thermal shutdowns after 9 months.

A laptop should never require it's user to fix it by stripping it down to it's bare plastic every 9 months.

If I were to buy a PC, I'd go Lenovo. Maybe Toshiba.

 

[hchung]

You can have both. It's the users choice if they want to express themselves differently. I'm not a jailbreaker - but I think it's perfectly ok for the community to exist. I also think that anything that happens to the phone/OS when someone modifies it (software or hardware mod) then that phone is then their responsibility and anything that goes wrong with it is no longer Apple's responsibility.

Point is - getting upset (as much as Jobs did) because someone wants to make his product better for their personal use case shouldn't be cause for anger.

I agree. I used to be a jailbreaker, and I still think it's okay for the community exist as long those who jailbreak take responsibility when they break things.

The problem is, many people who jailbreak don't. In my experience, I see people jailbreak their phones and then misplace their blame when something goes wrong, even when those who lead the jailbreaking community can explain what happened.

How many people remember the iPhone 1.1.1 brick fiasco?
How many people remember when Apple posted everywhere that the installing the next update was incompatible with the unlock?
How many people here think Apple purposefully bricked the phones?
How many people here actually know who's fault it was and why it bricked?

And worse of all, how many people here saw somebody who had a bricked phone ask how to get Apple to replace it?

Jailbreaking and unlock hacks are fine and all, but if you caused damage, then you must take responsibility. Anything less results in undermining the community's standing.

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I am not sure why hp immediately dropped them to 99, they sell on ebay for 250-300 everyday. They could have easily sold them for 250.

We only knew they could sell for $300 on ebay because they sold for that much after it was dropped to $99. Before the price drop, HP had no idea what the market valued the Touchpad at.

When you're ending a product, you want to eliminate inventory because every Touchpad not sold equates to a complete loss. At $99, they were certain to sell, and therefore they knew how much they could reclaim. At $200, nobody was sure they'd be able to clear out the inventory, so somebody made a call to just dump them at $99.

And as the story goes, they instantly outsold the entire Android 3.x tablet market in 3 days.

 

[mutantteenager]

Closing that part of the business was a crazy move considering how big they are in the business and education sector. Sanity rules, hopefully this means the touchpad is back?

 

[rdowns]

Closing that part of the business was a crazy move considering how big they are in the business and education sector. Sanity rules, hopefully this means the touchpad is back?

They were never going to close it down. They were looking into spinning it off as its own company or selling it.