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I love the white iPod and would not buy a black one. I have found black to show too many finger prints etc. Just a personal observation ...

I will have to see this in person to pass a final judgement but, that HP symbol on an iPod ... its, ... just as unexpected and out of place as anything I have ever seen.

An HP branded iPod? Its like calling an OX a bull.

Hes grateful for the compliment, but would rather have restored to him what has been rudely taken away ...
 
Originally posted by edgar_is_good
I also have no doubt that Apple has made HP agree that they will not undersell Apple (which I thought was why Dell pulled the ipod from their site).

I seriously doubt that they made any such agreement--it would violate the antitrust laws and, technically, would be a felony (though unlikely to be criminally prosecuted).
 
Originally posted by dickius
I seriously doubt that they made any such agreement--it would violate the antitrust laws and, technically, would be a felony (though unlikely to be criminally prosecuted).

All very true, and I see little incentive for HP to try and drive the price down on the device. Why give up profit margins if you do not have to, and why initiate a pricing slide in which your supplier can ultimately undersell you? It is not like iPod prospects are suddenly going to rush to the HPod if it is a few dollars cheaper. Both companies have enough marketing smarts to use non-iPod market pressure to set their pricing rather than cannibalize each other's profits. Three years and still supply is occasionally outstripped by demand. HP obviously feels there is a great deal of unmet demand for the product. To that point, I run into people constantly who have no idea the iPod is completely Windows compatible. HP offering the product unequivocally associates iPod technology with Windows machines, and gives mainstream and late adopters additional reassurance necessary for them to purchase the product.

Finally, June is a long way off, and given revision history we can all expect Apple to introduce new pricing, new configurations or both right about the time the HPod comes to market. Regardless of all the whining about the prototype's blue color, this is definitely a win-win-win situation. (The third win being us consumers)
 
Originally posted by rjstanford
Won't the other countries be annoyed when they find out that they can't use it without an American credit card...

-Richard

Hopefully, by June iTMS will be launched in a half dozen more countries with payment systems to match. Canada, the UK, Japan are all rumored to be close. Can Australia, New Zealand and the EC be far behind? These are primarily legal issues not technology, and with the greater marketing and distribution muscle of HP there will be even more pressure to put negotiations into high-gear.
 
I definitely like the regular white iPod much better. I would even think that some people might just go out and buy the regular iPod just so that it doesn't look so ugly.
 
Originally posted by dickius
I seriously doubt that they made any such agreement--it would violate the antitrust laws and, technically, would be a felony (though unlikely to be criminally prosecuted).

You know, I don't think that there is anything illegal about that. Perhaps I'm wrong, but if I'm allowing you to sell my product and I can't have you sign some pricing agreements, then I'm sure that it would be quite easy for me to implement pricing controls simply by adjusting how much I sell the part for. So, even if it is illegal (which doesn't make sense to me), Apple would still hold all the cards on price control.
 
Even though the thing may be ugly....this is a good move for Apple, assuming they have made a deal with HP in Apple's favor. This will allow many more reatailers to sell the iPod, which will make the iPod available to many more people. Currently, people can buy iPod's at an Apple Boutique or online...maybe a few other places here or there...but there are still people that do not like buying things online, and maybe there isnt an Apple Boutique near them...so this is a good move.
 
Split iPod from Apple!

Hey why don't they spinoff iPod development as its own entity...
more deals - own platform??
 
Re: Split iPod from Apple!

Originally posted by doogle
Hey why don't they spinoff iPod development as its own entity...
more deals - own platform??

Apple has not had the best of luck with this approach. Especially if you look at their track record with the Newton and Claris, although FileMaker has survived.
 
True I guess the hpod is a bit like the Sharp Zaurus deal except in htis case Apple are making the iPods not licensing the software to a third party.
 
pretty lame slagging the MS gm of the MacBiz unit because she obviously has a speech impediment and has overcome it.

I would like to see you lame fools stand up in front of that size crowd and make a presentation. especially a not all together welcoming one either.

and shame on 11 pages of posts that fail to call you on it.
 
Originally posted by kansaigaijin
and shame on 11 pages of posts that fail to call you on it.


...shame on you for classifying every poster as a fool...

i might have understood your anger at peoples insensitivity but mate call me a fool cause I made a post that didn't meet ou rmoral standards and all you wil get is a fight (and not from me either cos it seems thats what you want)
 
yup you are a goof


you attacked someone for how they speak, not for what they said.

I am not going to wade through 11 pages to find out the two posters who did it.

you taking credit for it?

as for the Hpod, it is fantastic for Apple and even better is iTunes automatically on 33% of PC units sold.

and good for MS for continuing to make stuff for Macs
 
Originally posted by Snowy_River
You know, I don't think that there is anything illegal about that. Perhaps I'm wrong, but if I'm allowing you to sell my product and I can't have you sign some pricing agreements, then I'm sure that it would be quite easy for me to implement pricing controls simply by adjusting how much I sell the part for. So, even if it is illegal (which doesn't make sense to me), Apple would still hold all the cards on price control.

Take my word for it. I'm an antitrust lawyer. It is a per se violation of the Sherman Act for a manufacturer (Apple) and a purchaser/reseller (HP) to agree on the price at which the reseller will resell the manufacturer's product. This is not a complicated, hard case to prove (like, for example, the Microsoft case). This is a simple case. Because it is a per se violation, there are NO defenses available. It would be a slam dunk for the government or for a private class action lawyer.
 
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