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Now that the ITC has ruled in favor of Apple can they obtain damages for past offences?

After all HTC sold many phones with the infringing software component, phones that probably won't get the fix, shouldn't Apple be entitled to something?
 
Now that the ITC has ruled in favor of Apple can they obtain damages for past offences?

After all HTC sold many phones with the infringing software component, phones that probably won't get the fix, shouldn't Apple be entitled to something?

I assume HTC will just release an update for old devices which violate the patent. Seems like a very minor change to make.
 
Well, this is irrelevant to the discussion but if I had to guess whether customers of different brads would be effected by an IP lawsuit to a different degree, I'd suppose that'd be the case. But I don't have a clue which customers would be effected less.

On the one hand, Apple customer is like a following, so they'll want to disregard such stuff because they "love" their brand, which doesn't really exist for other brands, at least not as much as with Apple.

But on the other hand, most customers of other handsets don't care about the brand image, and they only look at specs and price. So the brand taking a hit on the news wouldn't really concern those people because they don't really care about the brand.

So no clue which brand this is worse for. But in any case, no large effects can be expected from stuff like this.

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Looks like this is a brilliant time to become an IP lawyer!

Oh I bet those lawsuits are so much fun...
 
If you can show me how Android looked before the iPhone was presented I will gift you a Mac Book Air 13"

Is that offer open to anyone? :D

If so, here's a VERY early build model:

450px-Android_mobile_phone_platform_early_device.jpg
 
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So sick of all these lawsuits
 
And the date?

Honestly cant say, IIRC it was after the iPhone was previewed. someone over at wikipedia has battered the page it was on - had to go through the history to locate it.

For anyone interested, the original photo is here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/16105436@N00/2264759283/ and is shown as being taken in Feb 2008 (although the device is no doubt from a much earlier revision).

If I had to guess I'd say that the handset was pre-iPhone design (very blackberryesq) but the OS is post iPhone. Thats just my personal guess though.

Guessing no MacBook for me? :p
 
Now that the ITC has ruled in favor of Apple can they obtain damages for past offences?

After all HTC sold many phones with the infringing software component, phones that probably won't get the fix, shouldn't Apple be entitled to something?

Nope, the ITC is not a court per se. Apple still has to win at trial to get damages.
 
Joey "Joe" McAverage does listen to the 24-hour news cycle on TV or radio, and when they hear about a company being found guilty by an international court, that will weigh on their mind.

LOL. No. If it's a hot product they'll fall all over each other to buy.

Guilty of patent violations? LOL what's a patent?

If Joe Blow cared about the rightness of wrongness of patent litigation, they would have stopped buying Apple gear a looooong time ago, bud. Instead, we're seeing obscene, frenzied demand for Apple gear. In the midst of these patent battles, seemingly a new one involving Apple every week, demand for Apple gear is climbing even higher.

It's all about the product. Consumers don't moralize about tech. Especially not about tech patents.
 
Android was en route to being a Blackberry copy for several years, and when the first iPhone came out in 2008, they shifted to being a copy of iOS.

A glaring misconception is that Android is hardware. Android is software. That it was shown on a prototype using the Blackberry form factor does not mean Android was a Blackberry copy.

Remember folks, Linux running on the same hardware as Windows does not make Linux a copy of Windows.
 
The date was at least as early as December 17, 2007, when Gizmodo published the photo.

http://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewild

Android was en route to being a Blackberry copy for several years, and when the first iPhone came out in 2008, they shifted to being a copy of iOS.

The first iPhone came out in June 07, having been announced in Jan 07 ;) If their intentions were ever to copy iOS, I think we'd have seen it closer to June 07 given that a ton of screenshots of iOS were already out by then.

Dont let a device with a small landscape screen and keypad make you think that it was a blackberry copy - its a touch screen OS designed to fit to a multitude of resolutions, both tall and wide.
 
Ahh the moronic debait begins once again. Its due I suppose...you chaps have had a few days without any patent stuff to bitch about.

(nb. before you go reporting me, I'm not calling anyone here a moron...I'm saying its moronic of people to actually think these things. Whatever keeps you happy I guess!)

Reported.
 
The first iPhone came out in June 07, having been announced in Jan 07 ;) If their intentions were ever to copy iOS, I think we'd have seen it closer to June 07 given that a ton of screenshots of iOS were already out by then.

Dont let a device with a small landscape screen and keypad make you think that it was a blackberry copy - its a touch screen OS designed to fit to a multitude of resolutions, both tall and wide.

Sorry, my mistake. I meant to type 2007.
 
Android was never meant to copy BB OS. At the same time as that keyboard phone, they also had prototype touchscreen phones.

I still remember reading about Android in those early days, and so many people saying that it'd just fail and there'd be no interest in it. Regardless of whether or not you actually like Android, you've gotta admit, it's done quite well for itself.
 
I think this thread is proof that Android copied IOS and used the developers that Android poached from Apple to have mass influence and copy the OS completely.

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How about the picture above?

I notice you're not putting you money where your mouth is and paying the lad up his MacBook Air.

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Maturity... Grow up kid.

Reported again.

I didn't stoop to name calling.
 
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