Not really? The Diamond and Raphael are suppose to have a 2.8in screen, and many of the devices out on the market like the HTC Tytn(Tilt) or HTC Wing, also have a 2.8in screen and their keyboard are fairly easy and comfortable to use. So, I doubt this would be bad to a point that it is hard to use.
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Not really? The Diamond and Raphael are suppose to have a 2.8in screen, and many of the devices out on the market like the HTC Tytn(Tilt) or HTC Wing, also have a 2.8in screen and their keyboard are fairly easy and comfortable to use. So, I doubt this would be bad to a point that it is hard to use.
I prefer a few finger prints on my screen than fumbling around with a stylus.
Nice try but the iPhone mutli touch screen is still way ahead,
with more features being released with each firmware upgrade.
Mobile phones are really a disposable item now, and in a year or so, I'm sure I will upgrade mine to the next gen iPhone, and I'm sure by august this year we should get the 3G iPhone in oz
Nice try but the iPhone mutli touch screen is still way ahead,
with more features being released with each firmware upgrade.
Mobile phones are really a disposable item now, and in a year or so, I'm sure I will upgrade mine to the next gen iPhone, and I'm sure by august this year we should get the 3G iPhone in oz
Nice, Copied from Apple, but not Disney like
This new device looks nice! Definitively, it seems to have an elegant UI, less checkered than the iPhone and comes with a more consistent graphical and colour theme throughout, and is not so childish and Disney like.
This is a point Apple has to address. I always thought the widgets are to much of random shape and colour, splattered over the screen, distracting.
Vista copied it, but made it nicer, more business conform and professional.
I think, Apple should get rid off their Disney inspired UI, and definitively decide whether they want to have elegant things or stay at the childish level.
Although it is sad that other companies copy shamelessly, for the consumer it is good to have an alternative, certainly in a time, when a company gets rid of its own logo, the Apple, from its keyboard, just to please a crowd, who is first to leave, if the wind changes.
Or did they have to remove the Apple from the keyboard because Windows users showed allergic reactions after hitting that key?
This new device looks nice! Definitively, it seems to have an elegant UI, less checkered than the iPhone and comes with a more consistent graphical and colour theme throughout, and is not so childish and Disney like.
This is a point Apple has to address. I always thought the widgets are to much of random shape and colour, splattered over the screen, distracting.
Vista copied it, but made it nicer, more business conform and professional.
I think, Apple should get rid off their Disney inspired UI, and definitively decide whether they want to have elegant things or stay at the childish level.
Although it is sad that other companies copy shamelessly, for the consumer it is good to have an alternative, certainly in a time, when a company gets rid of its own logo, the Apple, from its keyboard, just to please a crowd, who is first to leave, if the wind changes.
Or did they have to remove the Apple from the keyboard because Windows users showed allergic reactions after hitting that key?
May I ask how this a copy from apple when the companies previous version of the interface was out for over a year now.
The actions here are typical of many tech improvements by other companies. Everything is a copy of Apple, even if Apple wasn't the original creator of the tech.
HTC's Touch interface and UI was originally theirs, and it was the first to have the app launcher in the individual squares and touch keyboard. But of course it didn't have the logo, so it wasn't important.
The actions here are typical of many tech improvements by other companies. Everything is a copy of Apple, even if Apple wasn't the original creator of the tech.
HTC's Touch interface and UI was originally theirs, and it was the first to have the app launcher in the individual squares and touch keyboard. But of course it didn't have the logo, so it wasn't important.
There is this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Newton
So was the initial iPhone-release at MacWord, but that didn't stop you from peeing in your pants. Hell, this time the product is few months away, iPhone was half a year away!
I find it interesting how you completely sidestep the dominant player in the smartphone-market: Symbian.
Marketing
All the better way to build up the buzz...... this, too, should have been announced in January. Looking forward to the iPhone 2.
All the better way to build up the buzz...... this, too, should have been announced in January. Looking forward to the iPhone 2.
A lot of Americans do since Symbian isn't prevalent in the US markest due to Nokia's small presence there. Of course they do utterly dominate the rest of the world though.
The Apple Newton, or simply Newton, was an early line of personal digital assistants developed and marketed by Apple Computer (now Apple Inc.) from 1993 to 1998. It was released in August of 1993.
The Apple iPhone, announced by Steve Jobs at Macworld on 9 January 2007, was described by one blogger as "surprisingly close to what a current-generation Newton might look like if Jobs hadn't killed the line in 1997" [3]. Many of the iPhone's icons are reminiscent of the Newton 2x00 soft icons at the bottom of the screen.
The EO was an early commercial tablet computer created by AT&T, released in April 1993. Officially named the AT&T EO Personal Communicator it was more similar to a large personal digital assistant with wireless communications, and competed against the Apple Newton. The EO was discontinued in July of 1994.
Exactly?
That I'm correct that the EO came out 3 months earlier, not 5 years as you claim, and was a tablet or that I'm correct that Apple should get credit for it's early work on PDA's?
I don't have anything against the HTC per se, whichever model, and they have lots of them, but the point of this thread is whether the HTC Touch is an iPhone killer. It isn't, and it won't be. For all of the features of the Touch, and their are many, the marketplace will decide that the UI just isn't up to the iPhone standard, and for many, that will be the deciding feature.
Myself, I see the HTC and its ilk as ceolacanth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coelacanth
Exactly as in the EO was competing against the Newton which was the same size and performed the same tasks, regardless of what AT&T or Apple called their products. If you saw the Newton in photos, it was huge.
You are right about the year it came out, I got mixed up with facts on Wikipedia.
Not too many people are saying that the HTC is an iPhone killer, I am not. Rest assured the phone's HTC make are better equipped than the iPhone
(I can't believe he said that) but as long as they rely on WM6 to do the heavy work their phones aren't worth it. The best thing HTC can do until they grab their own OS/UI is grab those users that want iPhone functionality without having to sell their soul to AT&T or Apple.
And basically, Apple isn't the first to market with everything. The EO was the first touch screen portable digital assistant/tablet however you like to slice it. The Newton was more 'revolutionary' but it wasn't the first. Just like the first touch screen phone in both US and World markets (iPhone like) was the HTC Touch, then the LG Prada.
Apple wins out due to the far superior software behind their slightly limited hardware.
Exactly as in the EO was competing against the Newton which was the same size and performed the same tasks, regardless of what AT&T or Apple called their products. If you saw the Newton in photos, it was huge.
You are right about the year it came out, I got mixed up with facts on Wikipedia.
Not too many people are saying that the HTC is an iPhone killer, I am not. Rest assured the phone's HTC make are better equipped than the iPhone
The best thing HTC can do until they grab their own OS/UI is grab those users that want iPhone functionality without having to sell their soul to AT&T or Apple.
And basically, Apple isn't the first to market with everything. The EO was the first touch screen portable digital assistant/tablet however you like to slice it. The Newton was more 'revolutionary' but it wasn't the first. Just like the first touch screen phone in both US and World markets (iPhone like) was the HTC Touch, then the LG Prada.
Apple wins out due to the far superior software behind their slightly limited hardware.
They certainly weren't the same size, albeit the Newton was quite large for a handheld yet still half the weight and size of the EO. The EO was certainly more powerful.
http://www.utexas.edu/ftp/microlib/eo/html/EO440-880.html
The first Newton was 7.25 x 4.5 x .75 .9 lb H1000 $800
The EO 440 was 10.8 x 7.1 x 9 main body 2.3 lb starting at $1995
The EO 880 was 13.0 x 9.0 x 1.1 main body 4.0 lb
Hardware features of the HTC definitely outclass the iPhone, excepting the capacitance touchscreen on the iPhone, though that advantage of the HTC will narrow with the release of next iPhone. The only long term advantage of an HTC phone would be for those that desire/require a traditional keypad.
And what if we don't?
People, as stated, would like to customize their phone. And this is why people are enjoying HTC's phones so much. Not only because they have great build quality, but because they also let people make them their own. Unless you jailbreak your iPhone (which then breaks your warranty), you have to use w/e Apple decides works best for you.
There have been hardly any new features released with iPhone firmware updates. Minor things, such as improvements to the Home button and the rearranging of icons on the home screen should have been with the iPhone from the beginning. I can't think of a single truly new feature that has been released since the iPhone was launched last June.
Maybe the iPhone multi-touch screen is "way ahead," but how do you define that? And it hasn't exactly been updated since June. Unless Apple gives us more new gestures, more new things to do with it with the next major update, eventually competitors will equal and surpass it.
Quality vs features
Needless to say, I prefer the superior quality, ease, fluidity and responsiveness of checking traffic, weather, e-mail, stocks, web-browsing, multi-tasking phone calls and music, media, etc. The user experience is far and beyond anything else out there, especially anything else running Win Mobile 6.1 on a resistive touch screen, which pales by comparison to OS X on a much more responsive capacitive touch screen.
Needless to say, I prefer the superior quality, ease, fluidity and responsiveness of checking traffic, weather, e-mail, stocks, web-browsing, multi-tasking phone calls and music, media, etc. The user experience is far and beyond anything else out there, especially anything else running Win Mobile 6.1 on a resistive touch screen, which pales by comparison to OS X on a much more responsive capacitive touch screen.
iTunes store
Cell and WiFi triangulation in Google Maps
Web Clips
Lyrics support
TV Out
And in a month you get:
Exchange support and extended security
AppStore
Push Email
Locally stored web apps
Games
Scientific Calculator
I had an HTC tuch FOR TWO DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! need I say more
I was on AT&T's EDGE network for a solid day before I made the decision to go with Sprint's EVDO, need I say more
I couldn't even get Google Maps to load correctly. Then when I thought the iPhone would have performed differently since it was made by Apple I was sorely mistaken. I think that phone in the Apple Store is still loading that map.
Hopefully 3G will change that, and hopefully Apple will make the keyboard a better tool for mobile word processing and note taking.
This is just my opinion, nothing more, you can laugh at me if you wish.
These aren't features, these are things that should have been in the phone from the start, and they are still missing some that I thought would have been there from the drawing board:
- File transfers
- Phone as modem
- MMS text messaging
- Phone as storage device
- Copy & Paste
And in a month you get:
Still hopeful. They will come but Apple has been late on things before
and hopefully they won't leave out the small list I made above. Not to mention that there are other features that other people would like see.I was on AT&T's EDGE network for a solid day before I made the decision to go with Sprint's EVDO, need I say more
I couldn't even get Google Maps to load correctly. Then when I thought the iPhone would have performed differently since it was made by Apple I was sorely mistaken. I think that phone in the Apple Store is still loading that map.
Hopefully 3G will change that, and hopefully Apple will make the keyboard a better tool for mobile word processing and note taking.
This is just my opinion, nothing more, you can laugh at me if you wish.
These aren't features, these are things that should have been in the phone from the start, and they are still missing some that I thought would have been there from the drawing board:
- File transfers
- Phone as modem
- MMS text messaging
- Phone as storage device
- Copy & Paste
And in a month you get:
Still hopeful. They will come but Apple has been late on things before
Whether they should have been there from the start is a side issue. They are new features added after the initial version was released.
People often forget that Apple were starting from a completely blank slate when it comes to a phone OS and the accompanying software. Windows Mobile has been in development for 10 years. Symbian as we know it 15.
Software doesn't develop itself. Filling out a feature set takes time. I'm frankly in awe of what they have achieved in 3 years when you look at the hardware, v.2 of the OS and the SDK.
It doesn't but it's not like Apple didn't know what goes into a smart phone when they started.
I can understand the multi-touch which is far more advanced then the HTC top layer of gestures, but some things, especially since it is based on Mac OS X should have made it in Rev A1