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I'm an Apple fan and I much prefer the iPhone implementation....

BUT

I would like to point out that you also have to wake the iPhone before using the scanner, making that part of the argument rather moot.

Everyone seems to believe this but it's actually not true at all. You don't need to wake iPhone before using TouchID. - But you need to press the Home Button to unlock the phone.
I get the feeling that a ton of people don't get this. You can simple press the Home Button and then rest your finger a split second longer on it. Sometimes it is so fast that it skips the Lock Screen entirely and wakes up the screen during the "flying icons" animation.
 
Relax.....I'm not attacking Apple. Simply pointing out that part of the argument isn't valid - unless you expound on multiple touches (which I'd say has more to do with where the button is located - which is addressed.)
The important part is not pedantic interpretation of their words, but what was their intended meaning. And they meant to say that HTC, unlike iPhone, requires two separate actions to unlock phone via fingerprint, which is completely valid argument.
 
I would like to point out that you also have to wake the iPhone before using the scanner, making that part of the argument rather moot.

You can wake the phone and unlock using the fingerprint sensor in one touch. You have to hold the button down for a split second longer is all.
 
HTC's engineering problems

This demonstrates further HTC's lack of engineering common-sense. What's not mentioned as a problem in this article is that a fingerprint sensor in that spot would also be difficult to use with a case on the phone.

I bought an HTC (it has some obvious features that iphones lack that are important to me, such as swype-type keyboards and an FM-radio). When I first started using it, everyone complained that I was hard to understand, and the call quality was worse than my previous HTC device. I discovered several problems:

  1. The microphone is right where I put my hand on the back of the device (close to where this sensor now is).
  2. Many HTC users were complaining that others couldn't hear them well. I switched my device for another and, three months later, people still complain. The camera also isn't as good as they make it out to be.
  3. Finally, much to the chagrin of those clamoring for larger screens, it's too wide to be comfortable in the hand (I'm a 5'10", 200 lbs, caucasian male).
In all, I just continue to shake my head at the engineering of the HTC One.
 
Everyone seems to believe this but it's actually not true at all. You don't need to wake iPhone before using TouchID. - But you need to press the Home Button to unlock the phone.
I get the feeling that a ton of people don't get this. You can simple press the Home Button and then rest your finger a split second longer on it. Sometimes it is so fast that it skips the Lock Screen entirely and wakes up the screen during the "flying icons" animation.

No - this is just what it feels like its doing because of how well they implemented it. The fact is, the phone HAS to be awake for TouchID to register your print. Sure it works quickly and smoothly, and it is only one step - but my point remains true.

Try simply resting your finger on the home button and see if anything happens. It doesn't, because obviously the phone needs to be awake so as not to accidentally unlock (requires the physical input of pressing the button).

Anyways - stop arguing with me. Defensive much?
 
Yes, while this is true, it can technically be considered as a "1 step process" or 1.5 step process if you will. When unlocking, you can if you please just place your finger there, press the home button and let your finger rest. Definitely not as cumbersome as this is.

And you don't get to smudge the camera lens with the iPhone implementation either - the HTC requires a vertical motion with the sensor...and the camera lens is right above it.

HTC would have been better leaving it off and keeping the optical image stabilization on the camera that they dropped with the Max. It's sad they didn't have some senior execs who could have seen this back during design and prototype stage and killed it when it wouldn't cost them so much money.
 
You can wake the phone and unlock using the fingerprint sensor in one touch. You have to hold the button down for a split second longer is all.

no need to hold the button down. Just press it and rest your finger on it for a split second longer. Holding it down longer has some weird side effects - i.e. activating Siri.
 
Not really, that is probably the spot where my index finger rests when I hold my phone.

There is a motorola phone that has a fingerprint sensor located in an equally bad place.

Its true that your index finger is on the back of the phone when you are holding the phone. But that is not the use case where a fingerprint sensor is truly most useful. It is when the phone is sitting in a cradle in your car. If you need to unlock the phone to ask for directions, as an example, then the fingerprint sensor is better if located on the front of the phone.

If you are holding the phone in your hand, a fingerprint sensor's value is much lower.
 
You can wake the phone and unlock using the fingerprint sensor in one touch. You have to hold the button down for a split second longer is all.

I think jrswizzle is being as anal as some football referees.

In order to 'catch a football' you must first touch it. Yes, there are 2 distinct activities, touching, then catching. But they're done at the same time, and can also be considered 1 act. (Now making a 'football move' and 'possessing' the ball is another thing. lol)

This is similar to the fingerprint sensor. Yes, the OS has to do 2 things - wake up, and scan the finger, but the USER only has to do 1 thing - touch the sensor.
 
HTC never said they are matching Apple's finger print sensor feature.
This still provides security that any user is looking for.
I think this is sincere effort from HTC. At least they are not into cheating and into cheap marketing gimmicks like what Samsung does.
 
Apple is the original inventor of the finger sensor (from China) sold in America by Americans, they should be sued, tell them to sell this Android junk in the Antartic
 
More and more like a Windows Phone!

It's nice to see the smartphone shifting from uninformative static icons on the screen. Maybe one day Apple will come around and realize these red badges are worthless.
 
The important part is not pedantic interpretation of their words, but what was their intended meaning. And they meant to say that HTC, unlike iPhone, requires two separate actions to unlock phone via fingerprint, which is completely valid argument.

I'm sorry - I usually tend to avoid making assumptions and simply go by what the writer ACTUALLY said.

It's not my fault the person doesn't say what they mean......

Lol - what's hilarious about this is that I'm being bashed for AGREEING Apple is better, but simply pointing out the fact the iPhone must be awake to register the touch.....regardless of how smooth it was implemented.

So if I'm the writer, instead of making the claim that "a reason this implementation sucks is that one must wake up the device before registering fingerprint input" I say "This requires additional physical steps because of the location of the sensor" - which he already talks about being horrible because its near the camera lens.

That's the real problem. I don't know why I'm explaining this to you people....it was a simple act of fairness and an innocuous observation that apparently has pissed enough of you off to argue with me as if I don't know how the sensor works or am some Apple-hater.....

Laughable. Laughable on all accounts.
 
yup but its still one step. if the iphone is off, you press the home button to wake it. in doing so, it activates the fingerprint scanner and lets you in. its one step from 'off' to activated phone.

It's technically 2 steps, but in practice it's a single step.
 
I have never had a 'blue screen' or crashes. My wife nor friends have either. It's probably only a small minority of people running certain apps.

Stop trolling.

It appears to happen to enough others though to warrant an article on Macrumors.

And playing the Troll card so quickly, simply because you disagree with a post... :rolleyes:
 
No - this is just what it feels like its doing because of how well they implemented it. The fact is, the phone HAS to be awake for TouchID to register your print. Sure it works quickly and smoothly, and it is only one step - but my point remains true.

Try simply resting your finger on the home button and see if anything happens. It doesn't, because obviously the phone needs to be awake so as not to accidentally unlock (requires the physical input of pressing the button).

Anyways - stop arguing with me. Defensive much?

I was under the same impression. But from my experience this does not seem to be the case.

Ok. So I rest my finger for half a second and then press the Button.
-> Phone unlocks instantly.
I'm now first pressing the button and resting my finger on it.
-> Takes half a second longer to unlock.

I've not implemented this but i'm pretty sure it starts reading prior to pressing the home button.
 
I'm an Apple fan and I much prefer the iPhone implementation....

BUT

I would like to point out that you also have to wake the iPhone before using the scanner, making that part of the argument rather moot.

no you don't have to wake the phone to use the scanner, place your finger on the scanner (home button) for a second then press it. the scanner scans when iphone is asleep.
 
I think jrswizzle is being as anal as some football referees.

In order to 'catch a football' you must first touch it. Yes, there are 2 distinct activities, touching, then catching. But they're done at the same time, and can also be considered 1 act. (Now making a 'football move' and 'possessing' the ball is another thing. lol)

This is similar to the fingerprint sensor. Yes, the OS has to do 2 things - wake up, and scan the finger, but the USER only has to do 1 thing - touch the sensor.

What are you implying? I never made any statements refuting what you've said. The author says its a problem that the device must be woken before fingerprint input can be read. I say "Apple's way is much better, but it too has to be awake to read the fingerprint input".

And somehow I'm "anal"? It's a simple observation. The author should be more detailed if he's going to write such a scathing review.

I know how it works. Check the sig - use it everyday and think its one of the greatest additions to the iPhone we've had.....doesn't mean I can't point out an error in the review.....
 
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