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Huawei Introduces Dual Camera Smartphone with Refocusing and Improved Low Light Performance
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132-page document shows full extent of iPhone's influence on Samsung interface design
You can come up with 132 excuses for 132 copied UI elements, but facts remain facts. You don't care about copying, I don't care about Samsung. Since this is still not SamyRumors, you're at the wrong place. Somewhere in Korea is a bad copy of this forum for people like you.
Not a comment I would make, since Apple is yet again almost last to that party.
I'm sure Apple will do a great job of implementing the feature, but they've had two years to see other people work with it,
Dual-cameras existed before Huawei did it.
You could say Huawei was late to the party too.
They bought LinX a year ago this month. It takes time for them to implement new technologies ... just like when they purchased that fingerprint scanner company to use in Touch ID. You're being a bit silly. They're not usually the first to implement anything, but when they release it ... it's generally good ... and then they evolve it in later iterations ... like new versions of Touch ID.
Because no one else uses silver, gold, grey or pinkish something people call 'rose gold' for no apparent reason...
Those were four pretty standard colours even before Apple came around to the cellphone market.
They're standard because Apple made them standard. This isn't even a point that needs defending as it's glaringly obvious.
You read my previous post, yes? Note the keyword "engineered." To be made in China under the eagle eye of a non-Chinese company like Apple is one thing, but to be home-grown in China for sale at a rock bottom price is yet another.
With that said, I'd still like to see dual cameras in all Apple mobile devices, including iPads.
First off, these aren't going for rock bottom prices ... I have no idea where you got that information from. This isn't some cheap Chinese knock off Android phone company. Huawei made the latest Google Nexus 6P flagship and it's very nice build quality. I have one at the moment and I was really surprised by the craftsmanship of the phone. It's very nice. Their other phones are built with quality as well. This is a company that seemingly came from nowhere and are now making quality products that people are taking notice of. Your entire opinion of the company seems to be one from a place of misinformation. This is actually a company to keep an eye on for quality products and they continue to improve. Apple isn't the only company capable of quality engineering. Huawei is definitely showing their prowess lately ... Samsung is too. Don't just write anything off because it's not Apple. You might not like Android, but that doesn't mean Android only runs on crap phones.
Look, compared to Apple, everything's cheap.
But are Huawei products exempt from "you get what you pay for?" Although not "cheap" by any means, what allows them to be noticeably cheaper than Apple offerings? What was sacrificed? Is it only the absence of a US marketing budget that allows their products to be lower? Or were any corners cut, that you yourself can see, in the hardware as compared with Apple devices?
My company is based in Japan. Most of our products are built in Taiwan, with only simpler devices built in China due to quality issues. We hardly ever have issues with Taiwan-built electronics, but in China it's been a different story. Based on that experience, I always have an eye of suspicion when it comes to Chinese products, especially those that are home-grown. That's not to say they are all bad. I have purchased items from ALIEXPRESS, the last being a carbon fiber tripod, based on a DPREVIEW forum member recommendation. It probably was a knock-off of a big name brand, but at $150 shipped, I considered it a worthwhile test. It turned out to be a pretty good product, but that is the exception, not the rule, for home-grown Chinese engineered and manufactured products.
My guess is though that as the economy continues to grow and as more Chinese have better and better salaries, they will demand higher and higher quality, not just for the rich, but for what average people can buy. But once that happens, prices will begin to rise and eventually there will be no price advantage to get things from China, unless of course the Chinese government continues their currency manipulations.
So I am not against all Chinese products. I am just very, very cautious of them. You don't always know what you're going to get. But hearing your opinions may make be re-evaluate Huawei.
Yeah, lol.Look, compared to Apple, everything's cheap.
I've been very impressed with the quality of my 6P ... and it's gotten excellent reviews from many tech sites. And I don't think Google would've chosen them as their current manufacturer of their flagship phone if they were terrible. But I agree with you that a lot of garbage comes out of China. I think that's a given. But Huawei is proving themselves to be a quality company.
This product isn't really cheap, it's their flagship phone (~$650) - and it is indeed manufactured in china, just like Apple's products. I don't really care if it's american engineered or chinese engineered, if it's good it's good, if it's bad it's bad. Engineering looks fine to me.
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I agree. The quality of my 6P has been just as high as that of the 5s it replaced. When I wanted to replace my 5s last fall to get something with more screen real estate the 6s+ was my first choice of course. But a 64gb 6s+ would end up costing me $918+ after tax which for the way I use a cell phone was insane. I was able to purchase the 6P for $540 after tax (Google was having a $50 off sale at the time). A cost difference of over $375.
I am not a power user like I suspect most users here are that spend many hours a day glued to their phones and just couldn't justify spending the extra $$ for the iPhone. When I ordered the 6P I figured if I didn't like it I would just send it back but was impressed with it when it arrived and have been since. And being a Nexus it is pure Android with no carrier BS added and monthly security updates.
As to how it is so much cheaper than the Apple products. I suspect the vast majority of it is margins. I own many Apple products and all are much more expensive than their non-Apple counterparts of equal quality. Apple didn't get to be the highest valued company in the world by relying on slim margins.
But I agree with you and JDW. There is so much junk coming out of China that is easy to assume that almost everything is. But Apple has proven that very high quality products can and are made there. So far I would put the Nexus 6P that same league. It will be interesting to see if I still feel that way in a couple of years. I have to wonder if all Huawei phones are build to that level or if their lesser offering are built to a lower quality standard.
Dual-cameras existed before Huawei did it.
You could say Huawei was late to the party too.
Was it around in a standardized flagship phone? Or was it a phone that sacrificed on other areas significantly to provide a camera experience that was well above the competition in that same category?
My point was... if someone is gonna call Apple late... they might as well call Huawei late too.
Let's remember that Huawei updates their flagship P-series in the Spring... Apple updates their flagships in the Fall. It sounds like more a matter of timing than anything.
Early reviews of the Huawei P9 say the camera is great... but it's also a $600 flagship phone. All flagship cameras seem to be great these days.
After reading through this thread, it seems like the people against this phone will be happy with Apple remaining non-innovative for the next several years. Apple's iPhone design is currently a mess compared to other phone designs. Apple is not doing anything innovative with their phones and for those naysayers "3D Touch is not innovative". This year Apple will release the iPhone 7 with upgraded camera technology as usual, better screen (although always below Samsung in display technology), better processor, and maybe a faster touch ID and all of you will be shouting how amazing Apple is once again even with a non-innovative lackluster release.
Other smartphone providers are diving into virtual reality technology, phones with dual use purposes (hybrid tablets and computers), waterproof phones etc. These companies are ensuring that they remain innovative while Apple is looking quite boring as of lately.
Other smartphone providers are diving into virtual reality technology, phones with dual use purposes (hybrid tablets and computers), waterproof phones etc. These companies are ensuring that they remain innovative while Apple is looking quite boring as of lately.
They're ensuring that they produce horrible underbaked (new stuff for the sake of it) products with no profits and barely support their products after sales; result, even less sales.
btw, The 6s can stay under water for 30 minutes, I think we can safely call that waterproof...
A couple years ago one of our nurses from the South Pacific was showing us her Huawei phone. She said it was a very popular brand in that part of the world. It seemed like a well made product. She said some day it will be just as popular as iPhones and Samsung phones and I think she's correct in her prediction.
Yep... Huawei certainly sells a lot of phones. They were the #3 smartphone OEM by volume in 2015.
Huawei sold 106 million smartphones last year... behind Apple at 230 million and Samsung at 324 million.
But don't get caught up by the sheer amount of volume. Both Huawei and Samsung are full-line smartphone OEMs. They sell smartphones ranging from $100 entry-level phones all the way up to $600+ flagship phones. But I would guess that the majority of their smartphone sales come from the lower-end of the pricing curve. That's probably the case for most Android OEMs.
Given that the average price of an Android phone worldwide is $215... I'd say that last part is true.
It's one thing to sell a lot of phones... but it's another thing if they average around $200 each.
I think it's amazing that Apple is able to sell an incredible amount of phones... AND they are relatively expensive phones with an average price of $691 per unit. That's unlike anyone else.
But yeah... one day Huawei smartphones could outsell Apple smartphones... though it will likely be a different mix of products.
It's tough to compare "popularity" between $200 phones and $600 phones.
Surely, you are one of those individuals who will be perfectly happy with the iPhone 7.
Huawei is a disgusting company! I can't believe they ripped off Apple's revolutionary dual camera technology before Apple even announced anything! this is why I hate Android phones. Shameless!