Huawei unveil Harmony OS - an Android Alternative

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by Tsepz, Aug 9, 2019.

  1. Tsepz macrumors 68030

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    So the long rumoured Android alternative OS that Huawei has been working on has finally been unveiled and its looking quite a head of its time, being based on similar underpinnings as Google’s future Android replacement, Fuchsia OS.

    From Engadget:
    https://www.engadget.com/2019/08/09/huawei-harmony-os-hongmeng-android/?sr_source=Facebook

    I am just glad to finally have another OS in this race, and it looks like this one takes things up quite significantly, hopefully more OEMs will adopt it to.
     
  2. AustinIllini macrumors demi-goddess

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    Dead outside of China.

    And I would be shocked if Fuchsia OS wasn't just called Android <letter name>
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    I doubt you'll ever have an opportunity to buy a phone with Harmony OS
     
  3. jamezr macrumors G5

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    My thoughts too.....then all we need is more fragmentation in the Android space :confused:
     
  4. GrumpyMom macrumors G3

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    @Tsepz lives in South Africa if I’m not mistaken and therefore gets to see a lot of phones we in the US and possibly the UK don’t get access to. If he thinks this can get some legs outside of China, I’m inclined to take notice. China and Huawei specifically are very aggressively trying to get traction in networking and consumer cellular markets in every country that will hear them out and even India, who is trying not to.

    If they can offer a light, capable OS that can be pushed to incredible performance levels in affordable beautifully spec’d handsets, well...yikes! And @Tsepz will be better positioned than many of the rest of us to see that come to fruition.

    However, with Huawei’s verified reputation for derivation, I can’t help wonder how much of this is actually derived from or literally lifted from Fuschia. This is the part of technology I don’t know enough to credibly speculate on. I am just wondering what controversies, if any, may follow.
     
  5. JPack macrumors 601

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    Android app compatibility will allow this to take off. This along with Huawei's control of the network infrastructure means being able to convince carriers to sell devices with Harmony.

    As long as Huawei is able to maintain a step ahead in terms of hardware as they've been with the P30 and Mate X, the consumers will follow the OS.
     
  6. Tsepz thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Spot on!

    Yep, indeed. Being from a developing economy which Huawei focuses on heavily, ill probably get some time to play with Harmony OS at some point.

    South Africa is one of Huaweis biggest focuses in the EMEA region, hence I was able to play with the Mate X, Huawei do a ton of R&D down here.

    The big thing here is if Huawei ends up supplying this OS to other Chinese OEMs as well as Indian OEMs and OEMs from the EMEA region, particularly in large developing economies in EMEA like South Africa, Nigeria and Kenya, where Huawei is also big in their network infrastructures and has carrier relationships.

    As you stipulated:
    Absolutely! Especially if they do allow other OEMs to use this, can you imagine if Huawei has lower requirements to use Harmony OS vs. what Google has to allow OEMs to use Google Play? This could make Huawei AppGallery a major competitor to Google PlayStore.

    This could be huge, or it could fail if they don’t get it right.

    I’ll certainly be keeping an eye and sharing my thoughts.
     
  7. ruslan120 macrumors 6502

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    It'll be able to send my data to China more efficiently?

    Where do I sign up?
     
  8. M5RahuL macrumors 68030

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    lol, exactly! I wouldn't touch a Huawei ( or any China-owned device ), let alone their OS!
     
  9. ramram55, Aug 9, 2019
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    Uncle Sam will not like this development. They have no way to spy on you.
    Huawe is recruiting fresh talent at 3 times the ongoing salary. They are going to make impossible happen.
     
  10. Awesomesince86 macrumors 6502

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    Zero room for a new mobile OS in the US. Just ask Windows phone.
     
  11. GrumpyMom macrumors G3

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    Honestly Huawei doesn’t care. The US is struggling on aging infrastructure and a patchwork of legacy hardware and software for its information superhighway and is serviced largely by a dated and eroding physical transportation system.

    Furthermore, we are mired in endless bureaucracy and multi level power struggles between layers of government and layers of management in the private sector that will ensure a continued downward spiral into irrelevance and mediocrity.

    Meanwhile, in the emerging economies, countries that had nothing are actually free from patchwork legacy infrastructure. What they had isn’t worth keeping. There’s little to no inertia so they can build efficient modern transportation and new technological infrastructure. They’re building things and earning money and more and more their needs dictate the prices and features of the phones we see in the US. Or worse, show us what we can’t have.

    I am decently affluent and live in one of the wealthiest counties in my state. It has been disheartening to notice that I drive on bad roads laid out within a system of roads designed over 100 years ago for horse traffic and struggle to maintain a 4G connection through half of my commute. The more disheartening thing is that I understand the institutionalized laziness and selfishness and shortsightedness that will ensure I endure these conditions for many more years. No matter who our president or governor is.

    I’m not saying any of this to bash the country I love. I’m saying we’ve got to be aware of what’s going on. It’s concerning.
     
  12. ramram55, Aug 10, 2019
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    @GrumpyMom, great write up. When others pulled ahead, it is others who are devils.
    When Toshiba or Samsung pull ahead, they were sued. Now Huawei known as national security threat.
     
  13. GrumpyMom macrumors G3

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    Yeah I’d like to keep criticisms in the discussion to known and verified faults. And to be fair, Huawei has earned some legitimate criticisms and cause for caution. But there’s no denying they are demonstrating the hunger for business and market primacy that ALL of these companies should be doing and just aren’t.
     
  14. jamezr macrumors G5

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    Agreed......Harmony OS will go no where outside of the China area. This is just leading to more fragmentation in the Android space.
    US carriers will NOT ever sell a phone with Harmony OS installed.
     
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    Looking forward to seeing how good this is. Competition is great for consumers.I only stick with iOS because I hate Android. Was hoping Samsung would bring out their own OS, but will wait and see how good HarmonyOS is ( if it comes to phones) as their phones seem great and are keenly priced.
     
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    Never know.
     
  18. AustinIllini macrumors demi-goddess

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    You do. The west is suspicious of the motives of the Chinese government and their ability to stay out of Huawei's business. You likely won't be able to buy this OS in the United States or the European Union.

    Android already owns the developing world. It seems highly unlikely this thing works anywhere outside of China.
     
  19. lowendlinux Contributor

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    As long as the OS is truly Open Source and doesn't have GMS type layer I'm willing to flash it and give it a try.

    I intend this:
    https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/

    to be my next phone but but this might be easier if I can flash it on any phone.
     

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