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Thats not the point. There is a market for this and you obviously arent the target market. People buy blackberry's because the ease of use for emailing. People buy iPhones because the ease of use for photos etc. Business people will invest into these types of products as it is more efficient and easy.

Again, some people prefer android to IOS (I personally don't) but you don't go bagging big companies like Samsung for releasing products like this. The Note 9 and iPhone XS are both awesome phones, but for a cheaper price with the Note, you get more value for your money.
You can’t objectively say the Note gives more value. “Value” is personal, and I value my information and privacy.
 
You can’t objectively say the Note gives more value. “Value” is personal, and I value my information and privacy.
If you value your info and privacy as much as you say you do. Buy a Blackberry... iPhones are no better then Samsungs, you dont think the CIA isn't watching you on your iPhone lol
 
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If you value your info and privacy as much as you say you do. Buy a Blackberry... iPhones are no better then Samsungs, you dont think the CIA isn't watching you on your iPhone lol

This post feels lik I entered a time machine and its 2010 allover again.

BlackBerry hasn't ran it's own OS in years an currently uses Android. While it has it's own security tools built in (likke Samsung's Knox), It still runs the full Google Suite and play services.
 
This post feels lik I entered a time machine and its 2010 allover again.

BlackBerry hasn't ran it's own OS in years an currently uses Android. While it has it's own security tools built in (likke Samsung's Knox), It still runs the full Google Suite and play services.

Yes, iPhones are better than Samsung’s re: privacy and security.
Im not claiming that. But this guy is straight up calling Samsung a joke. They clearly aren't as the #1 Selling Smartphone company in the world.

I prefer iPhones, but I am just saying at least they are pushing technology forward.
 
No pressure. We are simply posting our estimates, and we will see how that ship sails. My personal guess is about 1 million in sales for Samsung, while Huawei might do a little better. So yeah, total 2 million in sales by April 2020.

Now back to our regularly scheduled discussion.

Well taking in consideration that Samsung has all the USA smartphone market for themselves for their Foldable device and Huawei has China they will probably have to start planning on making more units than they originally estimated.
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More likely leapfrog.
Yeah it's nice to have dreams.
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Yes, iPhones are better than Samsung’s re: privacy and security.
I don't recall Apple having a solution similar with Samsung Knox. So on the Security part I disagree.
 
Am I the only one who wants a foldable phone to fold like a 90’s clamshell phone and not like a book?
That would be one long tablet :)
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I think that Huewei's definitely showcasing some impressive devices and innovation these days, but cannot get past the current behaviour of the company.

I'm not going to jump on the "SPYING ON US!!" rhetoric as we haven't actually seen the evidence of such. However, Huewei's corporate behaviour, violation of international law, and then how it's behaved Towards Canada and it's officials? Yeah, they can bugger out of my country.


Canada has been taking bids for building the 5g network. After Canada arrested the CEO on behalf of the USA, Huewei and china threatened Canada directly.
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...th-grave-consequences-if-huawei-cfo-not-freed

I fully support and endorse a full boycott of Huwei while they are going to use China's political might to try and threaten smaller countries to let them in.

Well, west does threaten many smaller countries and you don’t seem to object. Trump has already mastered doing the same thing to every country who does not listen like a little lapdog.

If it would be an important person from your country, who was arrested without evidence, would you sing the same song? And that Chinese government is irritated by it, is it so hard to understand?

I, by heart do not care for corporations, but this is obviously as fishy as it gets. Also, try to read some independent news, too.

Anyway
As for the folding device, they seem too pricy for what they are.
If you would have a device, the size of iPhone SE and unfold it to 10inch iPad Pro, that would be impressive. But in the age of 6.5 inch phones, to unfold something to 8 inches, is seems not extremely useful.
 
Thats not the point. There is a market for this and you obviously arent the target market. People buy blackberry's because the ease of use for emailing. People buy iPhones because the ease of use for photos etc. Business people will invest into these types of products as it is more efficient and easy.

Again, some people prefer android to IOS (I personally don't) but you don't go bagging big companies like Samsung for releasing products like this. The Note 9 and iPhone XS are both awesome phones, but for a cheaper price with the Note, you get more value for your money.

And who are these people willing for pay $2000 for a phone which unfolds into an android tablet when android tablets are pretty much dead?
 
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And who are these people willing for pay $2000 for a phone which unfolds into an android tablet when android tablets are pretty much dead?
What kind of question even is that lmao

There will be business, artists and many more people that would buy these foldable phones
 
What kind of question even is that lmao

There will be business, artists and many more people that would buy these foldable phones

Corporations typically don't jump into buying brand new devices or form factors, especially ones without any business software. Why would artists want a device like this without any drawing capabilities?
 
Very happy to see a company doing nice innovative designs, someone is still in (inn) at least.
 
Maybe photographers will buy it...to take photos of it to post on their Instagram feeds. :cool:
Corporations typically don't jump into buying brand new devices or form factors, especially ones without any business software. Why would artists want a device like this without any drawing capabilities?
 
This is a real leap in the smartphone world, and a technical marvel at the least. Until we have completely AR/VR based headsets, folding smartphones will be the next big thing in the mobile computing world. Being able to have a smartphone and table all in the same device is huge (literally). Huawei and Samsung haven't cracked the software/hardware implementation just yet but this is extremely promising (Although, Huawei's version is leagues better than Samsung's). I can't wait for the folding iPhone.

You're going to have to. I'm calling it now... Apple will never make a folding iPhone. There's no way they'd be willing to have moving parts on an iPhone.
 
You're going to have to. I'm calling it now... Apple will never make a folding iPhone. There's no way they'd be willing to have moving parts on an iPhone.

I tend to agree. I just don't know if it really brings any value to customers in their current state. Maybe if the hardware improves. Plus, I don't think larger screens is the next step in tech. I think we will revert back to smaller phones and put more focus on wearables. Minimal, but impactful, interactions.
 
You're going to have to. I'm calling it now... Apple will never make a folding iPhone. There's no way they'd be willing to have moving parts on an iPhone.

They have moving parts on lots of their other devices.

I do question whether apple will skip folding phones and go straight to AR glasses as their “big display in a small package” solution.
 
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They have moving parts on lots of their other devices.

I do question whether apple will skip folding phones and go straight to AR glasses as their “big display in a small package” solution.

I think you are right. When the rest of the industry is headed in one direction, that is when it makes the most sense to pivot.
 
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not as bad as this black line here...

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They have moving parts on lots of their other devices.

I do question whether apple will skip folding phones and go straight to AR glasses as their “big display in a small package” solution.

It's easy to say, but difficult for Apple to do. Data input remains a huge problem with glasses. Look at the state of Siri and the available languages for HomePod. And that's assuming society is ready for smart glasses with cameras on 24/7.

Folding a phone is the obvious intermediate step before glasses come, which will be at least 5 years.
 
It's easy to say, but difficult for Apple to do. Data input remains a huge problem with glasses. Look at the state of Siri and the available languages for HomePod. And that's assuming society is ready for smart glasses with cameras on 24/7.

Folding a phone is the obvious intermediate step before glasses come, which will be at least 5 years.
Yep, that’s the big trade off there. But, as we are learning, a big foldable slap apparently has its own trade offs.
 
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Except the Surface is a wonderfully engineered, fully realized product, and even then its prices have never really come down nor has it really made much of an impact.

I think these phones are either like a prototype of the Surface, a product that sounds great on paper but really doesn't serve a function, or possibly it's like the Newton, a product way ahead of where the technology is.
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I have never understood why anyone would prefer a fingerprint sensor over Face ID. With Face ID all you have to do is look at your phone the way you naturally do, and it unlocks. It's like not having a password.
Understood why anyone would prefer Face ID over a fingerprint sensor.

Face ID doesn't work when I'm laying down. Face ID is a real pain when making payments. I have absolutely no reason to look away from the cashier to look at my phone when paying. Face ID doesn't work when I want to share acres to my phone withy family. On top of all this I'm my experience Face ID is slow and very unreliable. It also feels really silly holding your phone up in front of your face just to unlock it. An Apple fail we will all laugh at in a few years time.

With a rear fingerprint sensor like the one on the Pixel 3XL which is my preferred phone at the moment my phone is always unlocked way before I get it out of my pocket or bag.

Face ID was a bad solution to Apple's inability to make an under the screen fingerprint reader and their reluctance to embrace a rear fingerprint reader.
 
I have zero interest in a foldable iPhone. The whole techno blogger / reporting aparatus at mac sites cannot stop falling all over themselves about how Apple is behind. Just like they were with the Apple watch. Apple is often not the first to market for good reason. Just because a screen folds does not automatically mean it should be used in an iPhone or any other device. Integration and use case design is far more important. At this point I am impressed by the technology, but not with how it would be used e.g in an iPhone.
 
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I have zero interest in a foldable iPhone. The whole techno blogger / reporting aparatus at mac sites cannot stop falling all over themselves about how Apple is behind. Just like they were with the Apple watch. Apple is often not the first to market for good reason. Just because a screen folds does not automatically mean it should be used in an iPhone or any other device. Integration and use case design is far more important. At this point I am impressed by the technology, but not with how it would be used e.g in an iPhone.
Yes, you and many others might well not be interested in a folding phone, but many of us are. Apple already sells various models 7,7+,8,8+,XR,XS & XS Max, ie 7 phones. They could easily add a folding phone to the lineup and everyone is happy.
 
Corporations typically don't jump into buying brand new devices or form factors, especially ones without any business software.

On the contrary, corporations quite often write their own internal and external apps for sales and field forces to use. And nowadays they tend to use off the shelf devices, with managers naturally wanting the latest and greatest :)

For example, the corp where I develop field apps, has over 15,000 field techs, plus thousands of managers who are drooling at the idea of a foldable phone that would basically fit a mini tablet in a pocket.

Why would artists want a device like this without any drawing capabilities?

I agree that a pen would be nice. But then, the iPad didn't have its own pen for years, and artists did okay.
 
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