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The problem is that you still need a cable TV package to be able to authorize the apps. For me, Hulu has been great for two reasons:

- I can watch new shows without crappy commercials.

- It allows me to reduce my dependence on Comcast with their sh***y business practices: Being locked into multi-year contracts, limited-time "discounts" (which should really be the regular rates) with annual haggling to maintain a reasonable rate, making their offers as complicated and opaque as possible so people don't really see what they will pay etc. I now have an Internet-only rate and can use Hulu and others as I see fit without dealing with Comcast's customer support (which is worse than getting a root canal).

^^^ This in spades. Could not have summarized it better.

My cable use case was RCN and not Comcast. (The other member of the cable duo-poly in Washington DC.) But other than that, no difference.

Our experience was that every year, on January, RCN would increase "content" fees and licenses by 10%, just like clockwork. And hide them under "other taxes and fees", unexplained.

To add insult to injury, their ad content zoomed, typically, to 25% of a given broadcast. [25% of add content I say? Check any iTunes program. It is nominally advertised by cable as a 60-minute broadcast, but seldom there is more than 45 minutes of streaming content under the program's iTunes listing.]

For my use case, Hulu Plus+iTunes a-la-carte, provides all the programming.

And this is because we care little to subsidize "life" USA sports programming, which is far from "life", due to constant interruptions. (Aside that I would never subsidize the despicable, NFL oligarchy.)
 
And things change. Free tiers don't really make money and they are a waste of time. Spotify's paid users are pretty much subsidizing the free tiers, for example.

Netflix is the most successful streaming service with no(zero, zip, nada) ad-supported free-tier. Almost every person I know has some access to a Netflix account, including college students. As a for profit company, free tiers are was a waste time, money, and energy. Private companies aren't charities.

Yes, this is true, but Hulu's only allure was that free tier. That gone, so are many people who undoubtly generated ad-based revenue.

I for one, have my Netflix account, and only watched Hulu due to the free-ness of some of the newer things. I anything, this "change" is making move forward to other sites with questionable gray areas on content availablilty but that are free.
 
Let's get one thing straight, Amazon Prime is not a rival. Amazon Prime video is garbage. It's added perk to an Amazon Prime membership, but not good enough to be a standalone service.

As for Hulu, it's amazing. Switched to ad-free and dropped Netflix like a hot potato.
 
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The problem is that you still need a cable TV package to be able to authorize the apps. For me, Hulu has been great for two reasons:

- I can watch new shows without crappy commercials.

- It allows me to reduce my dependence on Comcast with their sh***y business practices: Being locked into multi-year contracts, limited-time "discounts" (which should really be the regular rates) with annual haggling to maintain a reasonable rate, making their offers as complicated and opaque as possible so people don't really see what they will pay etc. I now have an Internet-only rate and can use Hulu and others as I see fit without dealing with Comcast's customer support (which is worse than getting a root canal).
I forgot that it is still possible to use an antenna. Most people I know have at least basic cable or dish to get everything including local.

What providers are you talking about?
Cable/Dish.
 
Disney often requires cable company to bundle (at additional cost) less popular Disney contents for rights to carry ESPN.

Comcast (and others) could probably improve their own image by clearly spelling out why the bundles they offer suck so much.

Why do you get the Disney channels you don't care about? Disney requires us to.

Really, Comcast should tell angry customers to go be angry at the company who's fault it is.
 
First, Hulu is, IMHO, great. It isn't the one-service-to-rule-them-all, but for $8/month I get the same basic shows I would otherwise be paying many time for on basic cable, generally available day after airing (it's been a long time since I've cared to look, but the couple of current shows I watch seem to be next-day availability).

The whole 8-day delay thing that Fox pioneered has always been just stupid, as Nagromme I believe pointed out above. You can never catch up to the show until the end of the season, which means a cable subscriber can't use Hulu to catch up and then get on the more profitable live-broadcast-watching train. Doesn't matter to me, as I'm not a cable subscriber (going on 8 years this fall), so if a particular show is time-delayed, I just watch it when it becomes available as though that was when it was released.

The main thing to remember about Hulu, though, is that its non-free-tier content is limited in simultaneous streams. That is, if you are watching something that is available free tier on a computer and someone else watches a subscription-tier show on the AppleTV, you both can watch at the same time. But if they are still watching that subscription-tier show on the AppleTV and you try switching to a non-free-tier show (often the back catalogue of previous seasons for shows is not in the free tier, counter-intuitively), you will get a black screen telling you someone else is already streaming. This includes Showtime subscriptions (which is why you should never subscribe to Showtime through Hulu since you can get three simultaneous streams which don't block your "normal" Hulu streams for the exact same price, but that's a different story).

Netflix allows you to pay more for more simultaneous streams. Amazon has enough simultaneous streams that our family never runs into the limitation. But with Hulu you have no way to throw more money at them for it to work in a family setting with multiple devices (technically, you could get a different account and subscription for each device, but then you pay a lot more and end up losing a lot of the features of Hulu in the bargain). Hulu: you would get more money from me if I could pay more for more simultaneous streams! As it is, you are losing money because I am not adding more content into that "one stream at a time" bucket.

Still, our (family of 8) general content-watching sources are:
  1. Hulu subscription (nee "Hulu Plus") for most "filler content" stuff. Yeah, we get ads, but for filler content we don't really care. Not worth $4/month to get rid of ads here for us.
  2. Amazon Prime for some other stuff if we think of looking there, but that is only rarely because the FireTV Stick is a pain to work with and Amazon refuses to put their Prime Video on our Apple TV.
  3. iTunes for any shows we really enjoy and want to watch hassle-free in high quality
  4. iTunes for any movies (rent, or buy if the price is really low)
  5. HBO subscription for a few months a year to catch up on HBO shows
  6. Netflix subscription for a few months a year to catch up on Netflix shows
  7. Visit bars/restaurants/friends for sports
  8. Internet for news
Between all of the above, even on our "worst" months we spend about a third of what we had been spending on cable in 2008 when we canceled, and about a fifth of what that same bundle would cost us if we switched back to cable today.
 
Cable/Dish.

I live in a unique neighborhood where its possible to get broadband access without cable, dish or phone. In such a situation we only have what can be streamed through the internet. Since we are not paying for provider services, we don't have an access code that the networks prompt to view their content.
 
Yes, this is true, but Hulu's only allure was that free tier. That gone, so are many people who undoubtly generated ad-based revenue.

I for one, have my Netflix account, and only watched Hulu due to the free-ness of some of the newer things.
I have to agree with that. Sure, it's only SD, and it has ads, but it's convenient. If the bulk of the free content disappears then it's going to drive people back to piracy.
 
I have to agree with that. Sure, it's only SD, and it has ads, but it's convenient. If the bulk of the free content disappears then it's going to drive people back to piracy.
Pirates didn't stop pirating even with the free Hulu tier being available. These people feel entitled to not be bothered by ads even if the content is given to them for free.
 
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This was inevitable once Hulu started offering original content. The expense for that probably exceeds what they get in ads on the free tier.
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I have to agree with that. Sure, it's only SD, and it has ads, but it's convenient. If the bulk of the free content disappears then it's going to drive people back to piracy.

Then those people are not Hulu's customer base. Nothing "drives" people to steal content except entitlement. No one's life is at stake if they can't watch an episode of their favorite show.
 
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