I would consider Hulu Plus For $8/mo if the selection was better, if just for a variety break from Netflix. Hulu has a handful of big-name exclusives that Netflix doesn't and it would be nice to not have to order them on DVD. But despite the fact that it's a pay service, all the good shows (IE the ones I can't already get on Netflix) only have the current season and not the back seasons. I've always thought the current season only aspect of Hulu is obnoxious. I'm looking for a cable substitute, not a cable supplement. It's why I love Netflix so much. I don't care one bit about being "current" on my TV watching, I care about completeness. I don't want missing episodes, missing seasons, censored episodes and so on. If I decide that I want to watch a show, I want to start with the first season and watch through the current season, otherwise I won't watch at all. I detest watching TV shows out of context, it's one of the reasons I dropped cable as soon as I could and started watching TV shows on DVD and streaming. Even Netflix falls prey to the occasional DVD-only episode trap that the movie companies seem to love inflicting on us, Hulu on the other hand seems to embrace this as the rule, not the exception.
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Actually no, I do not have cable or satellite TV. I do have $10/mo DSL bundled to my AT&T wireless plan, as well as Netflix, which usually streams fine around 3-4 bars HD. Either I pay for content like Netflix and get no ads, or I get said content for free with ads.
Again, WILL NOT pay for ads.
Second of all, that is a terrible argument as you can fast forward through commercials on cable or satellite.
Only if you
1) have DVR service with your account (many don't)
2) are recording the show
3) waited long enough to start watching it to build up a skipping buffer
When you have cable you don't DVR every single show that you watch. Browsing content is a lot of what cable is about and when you browse channels, guess what? You have to watch ads.
sounds like u were getting ripped off before with your plan. I pay $92/month WITH tax for time warner digital cable 200+ channels (hd is included free) and high speed internet. I don't pay for dvr and i only have 1 HD box. the one in our media room and that's it.
seems like way too much trouble to be paying $69/month before taxes and can't have any live content/local news stations etc.
seems like what you are doing is too much of a hassle to just save $20/month?
He's not paying too much. Cable is expensive. I have a top tier plan with Dish, and between that and my Comcrap Internet connection I'm paying a little over $200 per month.
One of the central issues that only a few of you have touched on is that the problem we face is that Netflix and Hulu see themselves as supplements to cable, not as replacements for cable. This is primarily due to the fact that Comcast has such a stranglehold that no other content provider has a reasonable path to offering the same content at a competitive price. Meanwhile, consumers are looking for what they can't currently have; a cheaper more a la carte replacement for cable. Until this situation changes (and it may never change) a lot of consumers are going to be disappointed with things like Netflix, Hulu and the iTunes store.
One of the central issues that only a few of you have touched on is that the problem we face is that Netflix and Hulu see themselves as supplements to cable, not as replacements for cable. This is primarily due to the fact that Comcast has such a stranglehold that no other content provider has a reasonable path to offering the same content at a competitive price. Meanwhile, consumers are looking for what they can't currently have; a cheaper more a la carte replacement for cable. Until this situation changes (and it may never change) a lot of consumers are going to be disappointed with things like Netflix, Hulu and the iTunes store.
just bc you pay $200 doesn't mean all cable subscribers are overpaying like you. I pay $92/month with tax for time warner digital cable and high speed internet. Just say internet is half that at $46/month. only paying $46/month for cable tv. that's expensive????
when you start adding all the BS features they provide then YES it gets expensive. but same goes when you buy a car.
my wifes step dad has verizon fios with HD DVR in 4 rooms and has every package available and pays like $300/month. he MADE it expensive. you can get by cheap like i do at $92/month.
I'm not over paying, so go ahead and swallow that snotty little quip.
Most people have either Comcast, Dish Network or DirecTV if they have premium TV service. Their pricing is no secret. You can go look at it on their Web sites right now. Just check and see how much their services cost after any promotions have expired. Remember; I said I have the top tier plan. That means all the movie channels.
Facts are facts. Just saying "you're overpaying" again and again doesn't make it true.
Most people have either Comcast, Dish Network or DirecTV if they have premium TV service. Their pricing is no secret. You can go look at it on their Web sites right now. Just check and see how much their services cost after any promotions have expired. Remember; I said I have the top tier plan. That means all the movie channels.
Facts are facts. Just saying "you're overpaying" again and again doesn't make it true.
$200 for cable, yes, you are overpaying. it makes zero sense how people compare top tier cable vs. hulu/netflix and then say cable is really expensive. I have the middle of the road internet and digital cable with 200+ channels with free HD. again, i pay $92 w/tax a month.
YES, it's expensive if you have the TOP tier, with EVERY channel available with 4 hd boxes and 4 dvr, every movie channel. but to then turn around and compare it to netflix doesn't make any sense. you're not comparing apples to apples here.
and if you knew how cable companies work, you would call up after your promotion expires and ask for the new promotion.....they give it to you.
i've been under $100/month for my cable/internet package for years.
Is it your hobby, posting snippy, insulting comments like that? Did you even read my post? Evidently not, since I clearly said that the $200 also included my Internet connection. Furthermore, as I already said, you can go to the Web sites for Comcast, Dish Network and DirecTV right now to see what their rates are like. I pay the same rate for Dish content and Comcast Internet bandwidth that everyone else does. Continually insisting that I'm overpaying is just presumptuous and counter productive.
did i say your internet connection wasn't included? you are saying cable is expensive.....when it's not. you have yet to comment about $92/month i pay. comparing top tier cable vs. netflix is way off base.
i have cable, so i know how the pricing works. i have many friends that have EVERY channel available with 4-5 hd boxes and dvr's then complain about their bill and say cable is expensive.
you can get away real cheap if you don't get all the extra's. when your promotion expires, call them up and get the new one. it's not difficult.
No, I'm saying that cable/satellite is expensive... which it is, and I've backed up that position by encouraging you to go look at the rates offered by the main providers.
That argument makes no sense whatsoever. What you're saying is that cable is cheap... if you don't buy it. For those of us who watch shows on HBO and Showtime, having those services is not "extra." Think about it. You can get cable packages that only include local channels and the news nets, not even the normal "basic cable" services. Using your logic I could accuse YOU of paying too much because you have the "expanded basic" service. Or I might just as easily accuse you of being fiscally irresponsible because you pay for cable at all. After all, you could just get an antenna and watch free TV over the air.
None of which is relevant to the discussion at hand. The bottom line is that cable is expensive and that's why so many people are searching around for streaming services that are more cost effective to replace it.
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you are acting like i don't have cable and don't know the prices. AGAIN, the final time i will say this for you to ignore....$92/month with taxes, includes digital cable with 200+channels, free hd, hd cable box, and high speed internet (with free cable modem, no monthly fee). also, have 2 other tv's that i have without a box in our kitchen and bedroom that can access 100 channels just from plugging it into the cable in the wall...no need to pay EXTRA for a box to get what we want in there.
so again, you're telling me $46/moth for that is expensive?
The ones on actual OTA yes. But as those of us in the industry are well aware. Online ads, itunes downloads etc are not credited to shows for their budget make good. They are community pot money.
Which is a pity because if shows did get those credits combined with the ad money (and perhaps with better accounting systems for those ads) then maybe some of the good shows that don't have 'viewership' wouldn't be cancelled two eps in.
Every person I have seen that said they want the ads gone said they wanted to pay for that situation. So how can you say they want something for nothing.
I'd kill to have the options you guys have in the States... I know Netflix is also here in Canada, but our internet/TV packages (well, at least for me on the west-coast) are craptastic compared to what people are posting here.
Again, as some have pointed out, I simply cannot replace cable TV with Netflix. There just is too much missing content. (local shows, Discovery/National Geographic, news channels, etc.)
miss the point? lol
you haven't addressed the $92/month cable/internet bill yet.
every thread you post in you are arguing to prove your point to someone.
you're just not happy that you pay $200 for cable hahaha
Sorry, Dallas Texas, I don't how things are there, but up here in NC, Time Warner Cable is the most god awful terrible company in existence. They wouldn't know customer service it was wearing a nametag and bit them in the @$$. Yeah, I could have the basic non-DVR, non digital cable for under $70 a month, but the argument here is aobut paying or not paying for ads, which digital with DVR is the only way to do that in our neck of the woods. Also, for the 1 to 2 hours of actual broadcast TV I watch per week, I would prefer to simply have Hulu and Netflix combined, as I find them both worth the money I pay for them (Although once my free Netflix trial is up, I may go back to just Hulu).
And as for your ridiculous, unfounded comment about a lot of trouble to save $20 (If you want to look at it as only saving $20) then yeah, letting Hulu and Netflix auto-deduct once a month from my bank account is a terrible hassle for me, haha. By the way, Time Warner no longer participates in online banking bill-pay services. In fact, the value of not dealing with Time Warner Cable anymore is well worth more than $20 to me anyway.
And as for your ridiculous, unfounded comment about a lot of trouble to save $20 (If you want to look at it as only saving $20) then yeah, letting Hulu and Netflix auto-deduct once a month from my bank account is a terrible hassle for me, haha. By the way, Time Warner no longer participates in online banking bill-pay services. In fact, the value of not dealing with Time Warner Cable anymore is well worth more than $20 to me anyway.
why do i care if they don't do auto-deduct from a bank account. i pay via CC to accrue points
people are always complaining about something. heck people are even complaining about hulu+ price. you peeps amaze me.
why do i care if they don't do auto-deduct from a bank account. i pay via CC to accrue points
people are always complaining about something. heck people are even complaining about hulu+ price. you peeps amaze me.
haha. I love people who don't understand sarcasm. They are so fun to mess with.
To be serious though, the whole point of my arguments on this forum were to explain to people that there is no need to complain about a few 30 second ads, and that I still find Hulu to be of value at $9.99 a month, and now that it is $7.99 a month, I find it to be even better.
You are the one who had a problem with what I was being charged for my cable bill because good 'ole TWC in Dallas was charging you less.
i didn't have a problem with it, you can pay whatever you want to pay. but you were acting like cable was insane expensive when you were getting all the BS extras that they tack on.
my brother has verizon fios here in Dallas. He has every movie channel, every sports channel, HD boxes, dvr boxes in 3 rooms of the house. he complains when his bill comes and it's $285. DUH when you get all the BS extras of course it's gonna be expensive.
i was sharing what my bill was to show that, no, it's not expensive if you don't tack on all the BS extras.
What's BS is your assumption that your POV is universal. Sorry, champ. It isn't. Things you personally consider BS extras are things that others see value in and want included in their service.
Seems to me that at this point all you're interested in doing here is being snotty and self aggrandizing. That's not debate, that's just annoying.
Seems to me that at this point all you're interested in doing here is being snotty and self aggrandizing. That's not debate, that's just annoying.
LOL you are the one that joined last month and argue in every thread you post in bc someone doesn't agree with your "marketing genius" POV.
you can't compare the base netflix plan with a top tier cable plan, it doesn't add up. common sense would tell you that, but hey, common sense really isn't that common anymore.
We can't get that here, not even close, except for startup plans for 6 months. What company is that? Comcast here offers:
No free modems.
No free HD boxes.
My MiL was paying over $100 for just TV, no HBO, no HD, 1 SDTV box. She finally dropped that for DirecTV and saved $40/month or something.
That statement right there indicates that you know you've already lost this debate.
No kidding, genius. Go back and read what I've already said on this topic. Netflix and Hulu are trying to become SUPPLEMENTAL services to cable, while a big percentage of customers are wanting them to be a REPLACEMENT for cable. That's why there's a perception problem here. Do try and keep up with the conversation, yes?