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Hummers why?
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wow I emailed him and very snoby. voice recorded with a 80,000 dollar sound system, in the 80,000 room, while remote controlling his 80,000 dollar car from an 80,000 dollar antenna. 
I forgot I was in my SUV thread until i looked at the page header
I forgot I was in my SUV thread until i looked at the page header
This thread soooo reminds me of this commercial by VW a while back... I loved the commercial btw, low ego.... emissions haha.
Oh and to add, at around 24seconds the bottom of the screen says "Closed course. Do not throw megaphones or metaphors out your window."
Poking fun of the ego driven consumers polluting the world... But it is a tad bit smug, but it makes up for it IMO.
Oh and to add, at around 24seconds the bottom of the screen says "Closed course. Do not throw megaphones or metaphors out your window."
Poking fun of the ego driven consumers polluting the world... But it is a tad bit smug, but it makes up for it IMO.
Trucks get worse fuel econemy with the tailgate DOWN. The Tailgate up creates a kind of air bubble that spins and deflects on-coming air.
SUV's are pointless. Get a station wagon, same basic idea, better fuel ecoemy.
Need to tow something? Get a Crew-cab truck!. Plusl there's more cargo space in the bed, then in SUV's.
I hate how it's become "if you don't have an SUV, you must be poor."
Ah, nothing like a solid bedrock of anecdotal evidence to make sweeping generalizations.
Station wagon's might not have the ground clearance desired and a truck is a no-go if you need to keep your passengers and/or cargo climate controlled.
Ah, now we're getting somewhere.
Lethal
Yes, a good reason is necessary, because some snobby soccer mom doesn't need a huge car that gets 3 feet to the gallon to go down to Starbucks and get her overpriced latte. 95% of the SUVs out there will never see offroading, towing, or any other purpose they were really made for in their lifetime.
Frankly, I'm all for requiring special licenses to drive SUVs. 9 times out of 10, when some jerkoff comes within inches of hitting me, they're in an SUV and think that because my car can fit in their backseat, that they own the road and have the unconditional right of way. Either that, or they simply cannot control something that big. Maybe if we made SUVs more restrictive, we'd not only see a reduction in car accidents, we'd improve the environment too. Because some lazy yuppy won't want to wait in line at the DMV for her SUV license, and if they did, they probably wouldn't pass the test anyways. And while we're at it, lets ban talking on cell phones and driving too. Because that, plus a yuppie, plus an SUV is a deadly combination.
Personally, you'll never see me driving an SUV. I love how I can easily control my little car and have halfway decent handling and turning radius to avoid emergencies or have a little fun. And if I have a kid or two, that's what a medium sized 4 door sedan is for.
Just because you do not like something does not give you the right to dictate the behavior of others. Doing so makes you nothing better than a tyrant.
Ah, nothing like a solid bedrock of anecdotal evidence to make sweeping generalizations.
Ima bit stupid could you dumb that down a bit,
thanks
When the behavior of others puts my life in danger, then yes, it does give me the right to comment on behavior.
Then you are a tyrant, in my view.
Do you eat red meat, smoke cigarettes or engage in any other activity that others may consider dangerous? Best to live and let live.
Do you eat red meat, smoke cigarettes or engage in any other activity that others may consider dangerous? Best to live and let live.
yes, no and no. And since red meat isn't dangerous to anyone except perhaps myself, if I eat undercooked or contaminated meat, then I don't see how its an issue.
The fact of the matter is, that when a majority of accidents or near-accidents seem to be caused by SUV drivers, something needs to be done, because these people just do not know how to drive a large car. Special CDL licenses are required for things like semis, why not require something for SUVs? Same with motorcycles, since they're more difficult to drive, we require licenses for those too.
Go ahead, call me a tyrant, I could care less. If wanting to make the roads safer makes me a tyrant, then so be it. I suppose the police are tyrants for trying to make our roads safer too.
Militant vegans would have an issue with your view on red meat.
As for the view of most accidents being caused by SUVs, what is your source? Or is this your opinion, with which you would like to effect the actions of others.
You should learn to allow others to do as they will, for they will regardless of your view. As I am sure you do.
As for the view of most accidents being caused by SUVs, what is your source? Or is this your opinion, with which you would like to effect the actions of others.
You should learn to allow others to do as they will, for they will regardless of your view. As I am sure you do.
I don't have a scientific source. I go by what I observe every single day while driving. Nearly every time someone almost hits me, it's someone in an SUV who doesn't know how to control their vehicle. Nearly everytime a car is taking up more than one parking space, it's an SUV. My personal observations may not mean much to you, but they mean a lot to me.
And the meat comment is totally irrelevant. We need food to live. We don't need SUVs to live.
And before you tell me that vegans don't eat animals and live, remember that plants are living things too that are killed when they're harvested and consumed by humans, which is the number one reason why vegetarianism for the purpose of not killing animals is complete bullsh*t.
Again, I go back to the idea that you wish to control the actions of others. This is the first view of a tyrant. Others don't know as well as me.
You may not like SUVs. This does not give you the right to dictate the actions of others.
Again, the title of tyrant is applicable.
You may not like SUVs. This does not give you the right to dictate the actions of others.
Again, the title of tyrant is applicable.
Vegans can't eat Skittles because they have gelatin in them. That's a tad too far. Vegans fascinate me for that very reason, i just don't understand. I guess i never will.
Same goes for Hummers. I just don't understand. And usually I just check it off as "Oh well, they have the right to make that choice and I respect that choice", but if global warming, or "climate change" turns out to be true*, then fooey on the Hummer drivers. I've never seen "I am because I can" a valid justification for anything. If you can buy a ridiculously expensive and quite unattractive vehicle that gets poorer fuel economy than a...machine that is inefficient**, that doesn't mean you should. When people's stupid choices start effecting other people, then someone needs to put a stop to it. I recognize smoker's right to smoke cigarettes, but for god's sake don't do it indoors around other people who don't smoke.
Verdict: Sell your Hummer for scrap metal and buy a real car, or a truck maybe. (Silverado 1500 with a 6L V8 get 15/19 mpg, a Hummer H2 gets about 10/14 mpg)
*I don't mean to start a global warming topic, I left that comment open purposely
**I apologize for the bad analogy, but i usually compare inefficient things to Hummers.
Hummer: Like Nothing Else Indeed.
Same goes for Hummers. I just don't understand. And usually I just check it off as "Oh well, they have the right to make that choice and I respect that choice", but if global warming, or "climate change" turns out to be true*, then fooey on the Hummer drivers. I've never seen "I am because I can" a valid justification for anything. If you can buy a ridiculously expensive and quite unattractive vehicle that gets poorer fuel economy than a...machine that is inefficient**, that doesn't mean you should. When people's stupid choices start effecting other people, then someone needs to put a stop to it. I recognize smoker's right to smoke cigarettes, but for god's sake don't do it indoors around other people who don't smoke.
Verdict: Sell your Hummer for scrap metal and buy a real car, or a truck maybe. (Silverado 1500 with a 6L V8 get 15/19 mpg, a Hummer H2 gets about 10/14 mpg)
*I don't mean to start a global warming topic, I left that comment open purposely
**I apologize for the bad analogy, but i usually compare inefficient things to Hummers.
Hummer: Like Nothing Else Indeed.
I think advocating extra education for a person who will be driving a vehicle that is 3 to 6 times more likely to take the live of a person in the other car if they make an error is perfectly acceptable. The real problem is that everyone needs better driver training...and it seems no one trusts the "other guys" in their cars to be able to drive, so when it comes time for Mr. Suburb's little princess to get a car, of course his natural reaction is protect his little biological investment in as much metal and air bags as he can afford.
Driving is a privilege and not a right...not everyone gets to be an astronaut or a pilot...they have special training and they've proven their abilities before they are trusted with millions of dollars of equipment or hundreds of lives...I don't see why driving a car should be that different.
Driving is a privilege and not a right...not everyone gets to be an astronaut or a pilot...they have special training and they've proven their abilities before they are trusted with millions of dollars of equipment or hundreds of lives...I don't see why driving a car should be that different.
Ah yes, the ME ME ME Generation.
Yes, for most people, owning an SUV is really about caring about yourself and not worrying about anything else, namely other people's safety, the environment, etc. Nothing like feeling claustrophobic when being boxed in by 4 SUVs. Of course, some people will just say, "That's why I own an SUV.......for the ground clearance, and to not own the smallest car on the road." But of course, they're just a part of the problem. People are selfish. Most SUV owners are more selfish than other people.
Funny thing to say for a guy who's screenname is "Cult Follower".
How is that statement wrong? I can safely say that's about 99.9% correct, not saying 100% because I never say anything is 100%
Rights are things that are always present, always able to be used. Freedom of speech is a right. Driving is not.
Drink and drive too much? Drive like an idiot? Loose your license.
You don't have a license to free speech, its not like it can be taken away for saying too many stupid things.