and...if you look at the first sentence in the post you quoted. I said exactly that......
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Who’s shooting messengers!? Is it the same folks worshiping Steve Jobs?! I hope the messengers didn’t die and I pray for their full recovery.
And with Trump and Ye back they can definitely forget any advertising revenue
Colossal mistakes...even more so combined with how he has gone about it. No self respecting person would even want to for someone like that. He'll get the dross who don't stand a chance to work anywhere else...No you didn't, the employment contract itself doesn't matter as it isn't above the law. It can't break the basic principles. Same with any type of contract really...
You then said it “all comes down to the employment contract”
Which it does not. They can write what they want in an employment contract it doesn’t make it enforceable.
You have absolutely no idea of what the impact of the firings are, nor the mindset of those who remain.
- What we do know is that he originally made many business critical roles redundant and then had to immediately hire them back. Great for morale and feelings of job security /s
- We know that he is so concerned with employees sabotaging the business that he has locked most devs out of making changes to master.
- We know that he is so paranoid that all employees have been locked out of the office with their pass cards being deactivated.
- We know that the people who were top performers are the most likely to pick up jobs very easily if they don't want to deal with his rubbish.
- We know that of those employees who remain after the mass talent exodus, they mostly do not have other options - either because they aren't that marketable or because they are literally tied to their jobs because of visa obligations.
- We know that what remains of HR are frantically trying to work out who actually still works there.
- We know that even more advertisers are pulling their spend with Twitter.
- We know that for even those who remain employed they've just experienced one of the most organisationally traumatic takeovers in recent history.
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right the dross who gets things done......all employers hate those people....And with Trump and Ye back they can definitely forget any advertising revenue
Twitter is being run more effciantly and with less people with double the traffic than before Musk bought it.
yes TWITTER IS DOOMED!
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so many wrong assumptions...you have no idea what you are talking about. Musk is an innovator and entrepreneur and one of the most sucessfull business people we have seen. Love him or hate him you cannot deny those simple facts.
Then ......if what you are saying is true....Twitter will fail very radidly. Your "the sky is falling" theories will come to fruition very soon and you will be proven right.
BUUUUT...if Twitter goes on to continue to set records for traffic....the advertisers will come flooding back.
Then by all accounts the people he has kept are doing more with less.....now he will start to get the talent he needs to continue to be successful.
I have no idea what actually psychologically drives people to admire and encourage someone one day, then to change into so much vitrol the next day. All beacsue they promoted a cause they disagreed with....
Nah. If they can’t be assured that their ad won’t be presented along with content they’d rather not be associated with, it wouldn’t matter if traffic increased tenfold.
right...just like CBS News.....left one day and came back the next.
Advertisers are fickle.....they want to imply they are outraged about something and synpathised with what ever the public will is at the moment...then came back to where ever they can make money...
The more Twitter trends upward....the ones that left will quietly comeback....
There’s a difference between Twitter account and an Twitter advertiser. None of the advertisers have returned. And, those that continued to advertise in the vacuum… saw their ads run alongside content they’d rather not be associated with and they, too, eventually pulled.
Advertisers are fickle to a point. Given a stable place to advertise, like YouTube, where advertisers can define very specifically where they want their ads shown, they’ll spend buckets of money, increasing spend as the number of users increase bringing more potential eyes that can see their ads. Quarter by quarter, the number of ads certainly flux based on advertiser need.
BUT, provided an unstable place where an advertiser cannot be assured that their content won’t appear beside content they’d rather not be associated with, as we’ve seen, they restrict their spending and redirect it towards more controlled sites. All of the advertisers that have pulled out are not waiting for the number of users to increase, they’re waiting for that certainty of where and when their ads will be placed. Once THAT problem has been solved, then, and only then will they see Twitter as viable again.
Advertisers do not care about you're so called unstable place as much as you think....they will go where the views and traffic are.....they don't care about all the rest. They want to get their advertisements in front of the buying public no matter where that is.
Then they can target their message to the audience at hand.
Then as a rule...they will saturate the marketplace with advertisements in a multitude of platforms. They do not just stick to one platform. They diversify to speak to a wider audience.
I do agree with you to a point though.....once the dust settles so to speak. All of the advertisers that left Twitter will be back....
But I will say this Facebook and Google are better at data mining.
So they can offer ability to target their advertising to a narrowly tailored section of users who are most likely to buy the product after seeing or clicking on the ad also known as direct response marketing.
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It's an expression. You're asking me why people would worship Steve Jobs. I have no clue. Despite how ridiculous this seems to both of us, it doesn't change the fact that he did seem to have a near cult-like status about him.
Why did they leave? Those that have spoken have said it’s due to the unstable nature of the platform. And, considering that there’s little moderation or categorizing of posts going on now, it seems that what they’re saying is accurate. I mean, it COULD be because they don’t like making money, but as they’re still advertising elsewhere, it can’t be that.
There’s lots of traffic and views on porn sites. Yet, strangely enough, I’ve never seen an ad for Coca-Cola on any of those. Now, I absolutely haven’t been on all of them, but folks like Sony or Little Ceaser’s or Cartier are missing out on LOTS of views and traffic. It’s almost as if the advertisers choose where to put their ads based on the content therof.
And yes, as soon as it’s stable, advertisers will return especially with all of the new potential consumers that will have signed up by then. Before it’s stable, though, they’ll stay away. They’ll just shift the dollars around for a few weeks and take another look in a month or so.
Nothing that I posted are assumptions... every bullet point has been verified by multiple sources inside the company. If you don't believe me I would invite you to do your own research.
And I'm not making any comments about his acumen as a successful business man - there is no doubt that he is. What I'm saying is that he completely fails at being a decent human being.
Like I said, my dislike of the man is not about his politics, or because he "promoted a cause" I disagree with. My vitriol is about the completely unethical, spiteful way he acted towards Twitter employees after his buyout.
There are so many other ways he could have achieved the same objective without doing it in such a dehumanising, reputation-damaging way. There is absolutely NO excuse for someone finding out that they have been fired/their role made redundant when they can just no longer log into their work laptop, or finding out via a tweet.
Add onto this that he just such a hypocrite - he is promoting absolute free speech but then is completely unable to take valid criticism by anyone. Very thin-skinned and it just demonstrates a real lack of confidence. So his view of free speech is very limited when it involves speech about him.
If Musk intended on the platform being advertiser friendly, it does not make sense that he has fired almost all of the safety and moderation teams.
If he then does end up hiring them back, he has just spent a colossal and unnecessary amount of money rehiring and retraining people for roles in which competent people were already employed. It makes no sense.
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no your post is full of assumptions that are factually wrong...
IF twitter is left with the dregs as you say...why is it running successfully with less people and twice the traffic?
The facts speak for themselves...he got rid of the fat....doesn't matter if you agree with how he did it. He did it in record time.These things usually take a couple years at a huge cost.
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Always ignore everything before the but...As explained to you several times it does not all come down to the employment contract.
just read what was written......It said it depends on the employment contact AND the country. The contract cannot contradict what is the law of that country. Thats what was written.....
Yes. They will. As soon as they can be assured that their ads won’t appear beside any content they don’t like.
As I have typed, multiple times, as soon as the ad/content proximity problem can be resolved, and the advertisers return, Twitter will be fine. More users without those big dollar advertisers just increases their bills with no way to pay them.
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