Hey, this is better because is has 3 cables. that's more so it's better right? ... right? ?
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HYPER Debuts 15-Port Dock That Supports 3 4K Displays
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I'll Echo The Caldigit posters - There is nothing out there better and Caldigit post sale support is awesome too.
Apparently it only works with specific monitors. Not all 4K 120 Hz monitors will work.Thats wrong, they can do 120Hz and even higher over DisplayPort.
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That's only true for USB-C docks.
A Thunderbolt dock can connect two displays per port.
This HYPER thing is a USB-C dock - or three USB-C docks in one...
A USB-C dock is limited to 10 Gbps of data and 12.96 Gbps for a single HBR3 display or 8.64 Gbps for a single HBR2 display.
A Thunderbolt dock supports to 22-25 Gbps of data and 34.56 Gbps of display (25.92 Gbps max for a single display); 40 Gbps max total for data + display(s).
If there's a DisplayPort 1.4 MST hub in the USB-C dock or between the USB-C dock and the display then you can get full HBR2 (17.28 Gbps) or HBR3 link rate (25.92 Gbps) for a single display if DSC is supported by macOS, the GPU, and the MST Hub.
Instead of the HYPER dock, I would just tape a couple CalDigit Element hubs together and donglize the DisplayPort, HDMI, Ethernet, and SD card connections with adapters of my choosing. That way I can connect four displays (including USB-C and Thunderbolt displays), only use up two Thunderbolt 4 ports (and get 6 Thunderbolt 4 ports in return), and update the adapters if a better adapter becomes available.
It's funny how they include both HDMI and DP for each video output. Maybe cause adaptors don't work. My CalDigit dock's DP ports don't work with passive adaptors to HDMI for reasons I don't remember. (I would've bought the version with HDMI ports, but I didn't know it existed.)
One TB port can't split into four. And stuff uses USB-A, partially cause once you run out of USB-C ports, it's clunky or expensive to get more of them since most docks don't have more. I even bought a USB-C keyboard, and it only came with a USB-C to A cable cause they know you're not gonna use a C port on that.
Like, it costs $40 for a 4-port USB-C hub, and the ports don't support video or "charging" (though they seem to support some lower power?). I ain't messing with those caveats at that price when I'm certain a $5 8-port USB-A hub will work as expected. https://www.amazon.com/Satechi-4-Po...ords=usb-c+to+usb-c+hub&qid=1637039134&sr=8-3
But yeah, DP can get deleted. It serves no purpose other than to be adapted to HDMI.
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I can vouch for this, but it's expensive. I'm not certain what it's giving me that a $30 non-TB dock doesn't give. Maybe just less flaky.
At the moment, I'm managing fine with the MBP's built-in ports but I'll want to pick up a hub eventually. Keeping my eye on CalDigit as it seems to have a pretty solid reputation. Between the current Element Hub and TS3+, I'd be more interested in a TS3+ type of product with more built-in ports. Not in a hurry so I'll wait to see if an updated model comes out before I need to pull the trigger.
DisplayPort #2 can support up to 8K @30Hz. It’s in the specs if you dig deep enough. This means that the true 5K monitor (which I do have) is supported at 5K @60Hz.
The snap-on part could be used autonomously as a travel dongle for connecting a second HDMI or DP monitor away from your principal place of work, while the base version is permanently attached to peripherals at the principal place of work.
Edit: I canceled my contribution after a careful consideration. I already bought a small USB-4 hub from OWC, and as soon as I receive my M1 Pro, I hope I can use this OWC hub two external monitors and the M1 pro on an elevated stand as a third monitor. That’s how I’ve been working for over a decade now with Apple laptops: the laptop on an elevated stand and two external monitors. The benefits of the USB-4 / Thunderbolt 4 hub is that only one cable is connected to the laptop. This two- or three-cable connection to the Hyoer Dock is a mess, and the whole thing doesn’t make any sense, since you can connect almost as many devices directly
The snap-on part could be used autonomously as a travel dongle for connecting a second HDMI or DP monitor away from your principal place of work, while the base version is permanently attached to peripherals at the principal place of work.
Edit: I canceled my contribution after a careful consideration. I already bought a small USB-4 hub from OWC, and as soon as I receive my M1 Pro, I hope I can use this OWC hub two external monitors and the M1 pro on an elevated stand as a third monitor. That’s how I’ve been working for over a decade now with Apple laptops: the laptop on an elevated stand and two external monitors. The benefits of the USB-4 / Thunderbolt 4 hub is that only one cable is connected to the laptop. This two- or three-cable connection to the Hyoer Dock is a mess, and the whole thing doesn’t make any sense, since you can connect almost as many devices directly
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No - Caldigit are "ok" not great at least on my TB3+
1. They have very little power for USB (1.5A 5V)
2. The analogue audio out is terrible, compressed and lacks range AND is noisy - the optical is fine. Microphone input not great either. So I have to use an external Audio interface to get acceptable quality output.
3. It gets very hot - powering Macbook or not
4. I have not managed to get it work with CalDigit's own 2m ThunderBolt 3 cable. Only the short one is good.
5. I often have USB issues with "high speed" cabled or wireless "mice" and pointer devices if connected directly. If I move it downstream (screen USB hub connected to TB3+) the issues goes away. (Sticky mouse moving in jerks)
So I'm still looking for a better dock. But my preference would be something with 10GBe and capable of powering MBP Max.
Terrible suggestions. You have no understanding of the subject matter at hand.
Weren’t the ports supposed to solve everything?
I love how, docks and hubs are still around, because obviously we all have different needs.
I still think usb-c makes more sense. You can choose what to plug on which side and they support everything.
I love how, docks and hubs are still around, because obviously we all have different needs.
I still think usb-c makes more sense. You can choose what to plug on which side and they support everything.
Then why don't they say that? 60hz is useless and frankly, even an RTX 3080 would struggle to push 4k at a high frame rate.
The only problem I had with mine was that the DisplayPort's output wouldn't be recognized by my monitor. Even after a warranty swap, same deal. I assumed it was a limitation of the M1. So I got a USB-C to DP cable and it's been fine since.
As for heat... don't stick your face on it and you'll be fine.
The TS3+ is pretty nice! I have one Hyper dock from a few years back. It does what I need, but I barely use it now. I am also glad I read these forums. Lots of people warning about Hyper.
With that said, what is wrong with Hyper (in general)? Weren't they top of their game at one point?
This isn't true.
I run two 2560x1440 displays at 144hz on an M1 Mini. The base M1 laptops can output high-refresh, but limited to a single external display.
My M1 Max setup is center landscape 4k@120hz, two portrait 2560x1440@120hz, and I can still use the laptop screen there (although it's usually closed).
They must have an internal DisplayPort to HDMI adapter. They could be using a chip that includes both DisplayPort and HDMI. The chip might be a DisplayPort 1.4 MST Hub (like the one used in the CalDigit SOHO). Or they could use a DisplayPort MUX switch to switch between the DisplayPort and HDMI output. I think they probably use a DisplayPort 1.4 MST Hub, otherwise most 4K60 displays would be stuck at 4K30. The DP#2 that supports 8K30 is probably getting 4 lanes of DisplayPort from one of the Thunderbolt ports - meaning the USB functions are handled by the other Thunderbolt port.
Not every DisplayPort output supports DisplayPort Dual Mode (required for passive HDMI adapters). In that case, use an active HDMI adapter.
The HP Thunderbolt Dock G2 has DisplayPort Dual Mode (it has the DisplayPort Dual Mode icon DP++ over the DisplayPort ports).
Using a Thunderbolt 4 dock or hub it can split into 3. Connect 3 more Thunderbolt 4 docks/hubs and you'll have 9 Thunderbolt 4 ports (no-one has tried this). But the host TB4 port is still limited to outputting two displays no matter how many docks are connected.
why would they? majority of mac users aren't going out and buying monitors with refresh rates over 60. and why are you even talking about the 3080? the only relationship between macs and 3080 is either via external gpu on an intel based mac or sticking that thing in a mac pro and running windows.