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[shaunp]

More ports would have made it much thicker.



Unless I'm missing something, the X1 Carbon is only available in 14 inches, so it doesn't really compare to the 16-inch MBP. Yeah, it has more ports, but it has a much weaker CPU and no discrete GPU.

I would also question how structurally rigid it is compared to an MBP.



Not sure what you're getting at. Apple won't put the ports in there out of malice?

"Competing engineers are smarter at fitting ports in there" I can almost see as an argument, but… they deliberately don't put it in? Why?

You completely miss the point. It would have been possible to put more ports in there, and the X1 carbon was used as an example of a machine that is THINNER that has more ports as Apple puts an emphasis on how thin a laptop can be, and I'm sure the X1 Carbon could have been 16" if Lenovo chose to make it that way.

As for structurally rigid, to which you probably mean build quality - it's a Thinkpad. These things are built like tanks, pass all the milspec testing and last forever. Okay, there will be the odd one or two that don't pass QC as with any product, but I have found then to be way more reliable than the MBP, which I've had two fail. They might be pretty on the outside, but the internals are not so good mainly because of bad cooling.

Apple didn't put the ports on there, not because of malice, but because of greed (they can sell more dongles) and a point blank refusal to admit they are wrong about only having usb-c on their laptops. And they are wrong. In time they will be right and no doubt they will say 'look told you so', but it would have taken them 10 years for it to be the standard. USB-C is great, but I need USB-A too and this is the case for most users - there needs to be a transition period to avoid dongles, which are just crap, unreliable and totally unnecessary on a workstation-class laptop.
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I think there's more to it than form, but yes, if they made it just a tiny bit thicker, they could fit HDMI. I think I would prefer that.



Yeah, I know alternatives exist, but this is far from the first time I've seen MacRumors show one that doesn't have Ethernet.

That's the thing, you have agreed that it would be okay for it to be a tiny bit thicker, but it doesn't even need to be as we have already established there are thinner machines that do have USB-A and HDMI. Personally I would accept this been thick enough to have an ethernet port too, but can accept that not everyone would agree with this. However given that it doesn't need to be any thicker for USB-A why are we stuck with just USB-C? Why not have both and HDMI? This would prevent the vast majority of users needing to carry any dongles, which are just plain horrible.

We have such a long history with USB-A and there are so many devices that each of us have, this is the current standard, not USB-C, so why prevent your users from accessing it in a convenient and reliable way? One day USB-C will become the standard, but we haven't got there yet. Or do you want all this old kit to go into landfill, as that is really great for the environment.

 

[ruka.snow]

Why can't I complain about something that I find stupid, unnecessary, and costs me even more money without any benefit? I can't buy a cable for my USB-A dongle for my Wacom tablet, wireless mouse, expensive card readers, etc... they all need adapters and become a bulky mess. And one cable per USB-A device means two dozen cables which is a lot of money even if the cables are cheap. Add to that the recurring occasions when you forget your special adapter or cable and need to work from someone else's hard drive.

just replace the connector. The only non USB-C device I had left was a mechanical keyboard. For the cost of £4 my keyboard is now native Type-C.

 

[usgear]

Overpriced Chinese junk.

A lot of things made in china ! Include Apple iPhone and MacBook Pro ~

 

[steve09090]

It's not just the thinness. The 16" is both thicker and more rigid than other devices mentioned above. It's that they'd rather eat a dongle than invest in new tooling and designs, even if they are direly needed, and their ego won't let them admit and rectify a failed design.

Just look at how much negativity and litigation were necessary to roll back from the butterfly keyboard abomination that's been around since 2015.

I reckon wait until this time next year. You do know it takes about 3-4 years to bring a design to the market don't you? I'd bet London to a brick that next year they will have 14” & 16” MacBook Pro’s with a sleeker design.

So on your whinging about the Butterfly Keyboard, it wasn’t just the litigation, it was 12 months+ on trying to fix the issue and then came the new development. It would have taken them at least 2-3 years to develop the Magic Keyboard, and subjectively, it’s one of the best keyboards out there. So from 2016-2020, they seemed to be working pretty hard on this.

Just like the M1 design is more than eveloution, the Unibody was revolutionary in its day and changed the future of the design of the worlds best laptops. Of course we still have junky builds today, but why should Apple change something that is still one the best built, and certainly one of the most recognisable laptops still produced. It’s not about ego at all. It’s about quality and (eventually) getting it right.