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USB-C hubs that attach directly to Apple's notebooks have become quite commonplace in recent years, but Sanho Corporation's HYPER brand is today releasing an updated version of its HyperDrive Duo hub that includes a couple of new twists.

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As with most USB-C hubs, the new HyperDrive DUO includes an array of expansion ports for your Mac, including an HDMI port, a pair of USB-C ports (one capable of Thunderbolt 3 with 100W power delivery), a pair of USB-A ports, and slots for both SD and microSD cards. New in this updated Mac version of the HyperDrive hub is support for 4K 60Hz HDMI.

Another new feature of the new HyperDrive DUO is that it comes with a new removable magnetic grip that is inserted between the hub and the notebook that increases the sturdiness of the attachment to help prevent accidental disconnects that can result in loss of data transmission or even data corruption. A similar grip can be found on the company's iPad Pro USB-C hub.

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The HyperDrive DUO itself is equipped with longer than normal USB-C connectors that extend through the magnetic grip, but the design also means that the accessory can be used with many MacBook cases by simply removing the magnetic grip, with the MacBook's case serving as the extra spacer for the connectors.

And for those who want to use the HyperDrive DUO hub with non-MacBook USB-C devices like an iPad Pro, it also comes with a short extension cable that gives flexibility for connecting to any single-connector USB-C device. A vegan leather pouch helps keep the hub, grip and extension cable protected and organized for travel.

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The HyperDrive DUO is launching today for $99.99 in silver and space gray through HyperShop.com, B&H Photo, and other retailers.

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Article Link: HYPER Introduces Updated HyperDrive DUO 7-in-2 USB-C Hub for Mac Notebooks
 

akbarali.ch

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Why there's no simple USB-C hub, like with 4 USBC ports or 6 USBC ports. Like we have in regular USB hubs. Every type-C hub is the same as every other shoved with ports I don't want or need. They all are the same. There's pretty much no variations from brand to brand. Are there some underlying technological limitations?
 
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ruka.snow

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An actual USB-C hub or TB3 switch would be far more useful at this stage. And if they are putting in a card reader, how about a useful one like CFExpress
 
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chucker23n1

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The bracket is nice, as is 100W power delivery, but no Ethernet is a non-starter for me. I guess companies tend not to add it because it's too… thick? Otherwise, I can't think of a good reason. Surely it's one of the most useful additions.
 
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Unregistered 4U

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I believe there WAS a limitation because there wasn’t a chipset that supported it. There should be some available in 2020, but with what’s going on, maybe not until 20201?

We've heard from an anonymous person that Intel is finally releasing a hub chip for USB-C next year. We may not see products based on it until 2020.

I know all I need is just more USB-C ports and I’m waiting for the right product :)
 
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SamuraiSam33

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a pair of USB-C ports (one capable of Thunderbolt 3 with 100W power delivery)
If this truly is a Thunderbolt 3 hub with one port allowing Thunderbolt connectivity, so that I could connect my Thunderbolt display (even through a TB3 > TB2 adapter), that would be fantastic. I have two USB 3 devices that I can't use the Display to chain to; and my only current solution involves a bulky OWC Thunderbolt dock + TB3 to TB 2 adapter.
 
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If this truly is a Thunderbolt 3 hub with one port allowing Thunderbolt connectivity, so that I could connect my Thunderbolt display (even through a TB3 > TB2 adapter), that would be fantastic.

The product page doesn't mention Thunderbolt at all, so this seems to be an error. It's just USB-Power Delivery; it's a USB-C hub, not a Thunderbolt dock.
 
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Jaic

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I have one of those for my iPad Pro 11 and although it works ever since I started using it random pop up message shows up saying accessory not compatible or something like that even when nothing is plugged in. So for my new MacBook Pro 16 I am using the genuine adapter made by apple. Can't guarantee if that adapter was the cause, but that's the only reason I can think of..
 
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For European customers, beware that HYPER has no warranty service centers outside the US in case of problem.
 
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There would be no need for a product like this if Apple would have done the job properly and included more ports with the 2019 MBP when it was redesigned. They increased the thickness and weight, but still dug their heals in over USB-A, HDMI, etc. Now before any of you say 'more ports would have made it much thicker', have a look at the Lenovo X1 Carbon. It is thinner than the MBP, but yet has 2 x USB-A, 2 x USB-C/TB, HDMI and a headphone jack. Okay there is a proprietary ethernet port too, which requires a dongle, but it is an ultrabook. The MBP is sold as a mobile workstation.

There is no plausible excuse for not having sufficient ports on the 16" MBP, other than Apple treating its customer base with contempt as usual.
 
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Some ports should have never been omitted from the MBP chassis, like HDMI out. Apple's own dongle has been problematic with some 4K displays at work, and some afterparty dongles are not recognised at all by older screens and projectors (because we kinda have to present our work at clients' locations and OTA is rarely an option). Catalina updates have further broken support for screens that used to work just fine before.

3 years and counting with this USB-C only nuisance of a Mac and the only "improvement" I can think of is that usb-c to lightning cables have become a thing.
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There is no plausible excuse for not having sufficient ports on the 16" MBP, other than Apple treating its customer base with contempt as usual.

Just solving problems they created themselves by selling their own adapters and dongles. How do you think the "other" revenue category became so big. Contempt and greed hand in hand.
 
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Wow! For the price of $100 and some awkward bulkiness, you can now add the same, necessary functionality** to your computer that used to be standard several years ago, and is still standard on cheaper computers! What a time to be alive! But it's okay, in 10 years USB-C will be the standard for everything, and while your computer will be way obsolete by then, it will finally be able to function as designed without dongles!

** Minus one USB port. Some USB accessories may simply not work with no explanation. So you will probably need to buy 2-3 of these dongles just in case one only works with one thing, while the other only works with another thing. But you can only use one at a time. So it will really cost you $300-400 to get back the same functionality that Apple removed several years ago. But it's okay, because it's somehow better, now pay up!
 
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chucker23n1

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There would be no need for a product like this if Apple would have done the job properly and included more ports with the 2019 MBP when it was redesigned. They increased the thickness and weight, but still dug their heals in over USB-A, HDMI, etc. Now before any of you say 'more ports would have made it much thicker',

More ports would have made it much thicker.

have a look at the Lenovo X1 Carbon. It is thinner than the MBP, but yet has 2 x USB-A, 2 x USB-C/TB, HDMI and a headphone jack. Okay there is a proprietary ethernet port too, which requires a dongle, but it is an ultrabook. The MBP is sold as a mobile workstation.

There is no plausible excuse for not having sufficient ports on the 16" MBP,

Unless I'm missing something, the X1 Carbon is only available in 14 inches, so it doesn't really compare to the 16-inch MBP. Yeah, it has more ports, but it has a much weaker CPU and no discrete GPU.

I would also question how structurally rigid it is compared to an MBP.

other than Apple treating its customer base with contempt as usual.

Not sure what you're getting at. Apple won't put the ports in there out of malice?

"Competing engineers are smarter at fitting ports in there" I can almost see as an argument, but… they deliberately don't put it in? Why?
 
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theluggage

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Why there's no simple USB-C hub, like with 4 USBC ports or 6 USBC ports.

...because implementing advanced USB-C features like DisplayPort and improved power delivery in a hub is complicated and you'd just be left with 4-6 USB-C shaped USB 3.1 ports that offered no advantage over regular USB-A (...and pretty much every USB-C peripheral not made by Apple comes with a USB-A cable or adapter anyway).

Remember, these devices are primarily about restoring the ports that should have been there all along on a pro laptop.

Ah. USB-C: a great solution for a phone or tablet that only has space for a single ultra-thin port - a pointless complication on a proper laptop or desktop that should have space for dedicated ports (that doesn't even make USB 3 any faster).

The product page doesn't mention Thunderbolt at all, so this seems to be an error. It's just USB-Power Delivery; it's a USB-C hub, not a Thunderbolt dock.

If you look at the picture, it connects to both TB3 ports on the side of the MacBook - pretty sure that only one of those is used to drive the extra ports on the dock, the other is wired directly to the first USB-C port on the dock. Hence it claims 40Gbps/100W charging on one port - but it would need to be certified by Intel to be called "Thunderbolt" .
 
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chucker23n1

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If you look at the picture, it connects to both TB3 ports on the side of the MacBook - pretty sure that only one of those is used to drive the extra ports on the dock, the other is wired directly to the first USB-C port on the dock. Hence it claims 40Gbps/100W charging on one port - but it would need to be certified by Intel to be called "Thunderbolt" .

Hmm, the 40 Gbit/s mention is interesting indeed. Perhaps they're multiplexing the two ports, in which case it still wouldn't be Thunderbolt.
 
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The bracket is nice, as is 100W power delivery, but no Ethernet is a non-starter for me. I guess companies tend not to add it because it's too… thick? Otherwise, I can't think of a good reason. Surely it's one of the most useful additions.
This one has got an gigabit ethernet port: https://www.hypershop.com/collectio...-android-usb-c-devices?variant=20079615148094
Because it's a separate device they are not limited by the thickness/thinness of the MacBook.
 
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For European customers, beware that HYPER has no warranty service centers outside the US in case of problem.
I’ve ordered from UK, been nearly 50 days and something I ordered hasn’t turned up.

I know the current climate with delays etc, but they’ve been horrendous on answering emails, and not even helping. Their “help“ was to wait.....

Took my money straight away though, dispute incoming.... lesson learned. Said be ok to post and warranty be fine.
 
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More ports would have made it much thicker.
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Not sure what you're getting at. Apple won't put the ports in there out of malice?

"Competing engineers are smarter at fitting ports in there" I can almost see as an argument, but… they deliberately don't put it in? Why?

Why? Because Apple prioritizes form over function in their Macbooks. Everything in life is a trade-off of course, and Apple accepts an ultra thin laptop plus bag of dongles over a slightly thicker laptop.
 
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The bracket is nice, as is 100W power delivery, but no Ethernet is a non-starter for me. I guess companies tend not to add it because it's too… thick? Otherwise, I can't think of a good reason. Surely it's one of the most useful additions.
This is literally the ONLY hub I've come across that doesn't have Ethernet... just search for it on Amazon, you'll find plenty.
 
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chucker23n1

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Why? Because Apple prioritizes form over function in their Macbooks. Everything in life is a trade-off of course, and Apple accepts an ultra thin laptop plus bag of dongles over a slightly thicker laptop.

I think there's more to it than form, but yes, if they made it just a tiny bit thicker, they could fit HDMI. I think I would prefer that.

This is literally the ONLY hub I've come across that doesn't have Ethernet... just search for it on Amazon, you'll find plenty.

Yeah, I know alternatives exist, but this is far from the first time I've seen MacRumors show one that doesn't have Ethernet.
 
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akbarali.ch

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...because implementing advanced USB-C features like DisplayPort and improved power delivery in a hub is complicated and you'd just be left with 4-6 USB-C shaped USB 3.1 ports that offered no advantage over regular USB-A (...and pretty much every USB-C peripheral not made by Apple comes with a USB-A cable or adapter anyway).

I think it still has the advantage of being reversible and also faster than USB 2.0 if not blazing at 3.1.
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Just solving problems they created by themselves by selling their own adapters and dongles. How do you think the "other" revenue category became so big. Contempt and greed hand in hand.

I doubt that. How many are actually going buy only Apple made dongles? There's tonnes of hubs and dongle in the market.
 
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If this truly is a Thunderbolt 3 hub with one port allowing Thunderbolt connectivity, so that I could connect my Thunderbolt display (even through a TB3 > TB2 adapter), that would be fantastic. I have two USB 3 devices that I can't use the Display to chain to; and my only current solution involves a bulky OWC Thunderbolt dock + TB3 to TB 2 adapter.
The product page doesn't mention Thunderbolt at all, so this seems to be an error. It's just USB-Power Delivery; it's a USB-C hub, not a Thunderbolt dock.
It seems they’re not mincing words. Per the B&H product page:
Thunderbolt 3 port with up to 40 Gb/s throughput and 100W power delivery

edit:B&H product page
 
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