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Makes me sick to my stomach to even read this. Can’t people wait until their parked to worry about some silly text message? People don’t realize that vehicles are heavy machines that can cause great damage.
I can’t be alone in thinking that driving without distractions should be the number one priority. I can understand hands free Bluetooth (which is law in Illinois as of 1/1/2014) but reading information off or interacting with a huge screen should be against the law. I must be getting too old which is causing me to become more responsible.

It's all hands free. Siri reads the text to you, and you speak to reply. This could be distracting too, but not necessarily more so than having a conversation with someone sitting beside you.
 
So does getting both your legs broken and spending a month in traction because one of those stupid people was too busy playing with the super-cool display on the dash rather than paying attention to the road.

I'm just libertarian enough to not be too big a fan of nanny state ideals (whatever that happens to be, considering it changes depending on who you ask). But when it comes to driving, I'm about as totalitarian as Stalin's Russia. Hands free is alright. But anything that draws your eyes from the road while operating your two tons of steel and plastic at high speeds should be illegal. There are exceptions, of course. But I think that should be the general rule.

Think of it less as telling someone what they can or can't do, and more about keeping them from maiming you.

But the whole idea of this system is to minimize distractions and maximize convenience. To change songs, reroute my maps, etc I currently have to use my iphone, even if just to activate Siri. With car play, I can use Siri eyes free by hitting a button on my steering wheel and never taking my eyes off the road. It can even read a text message to me (if I choose for it to do so... It won't do so automatically, or display the message on the screen) if I'm waiting for something like confirmation of which restaurant, or an update on a location of a friend.

Fight it all you want; but this will enable people to focus more on the road than they currently do, not encourage more "fiddling."
 
Is there any news about intergration into older systems? I just brought my car about 2 years ago Veloster Turbo with nav package and this is a feature I would love to have. I can't see why they couldn't provide a software upgrade, even if it cost money. The guts of the processing is being done by the phone. If anyone has any news please do share.
 
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Here are pictures of people reading maps while driving. Happy?

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....with the car door open?:eek: Now that is definitely unsafe.:D
 
Cause they are a Korean car manafacturer or cause Hyundai make cheap cars?

Sonata is their luxury car right?

Hyundais are actually pretty nice nowadays. Cheap enough, but better than a Kia.

I have a 2012 Sonata, great car. Looks nice, drives well and gets good gas mileage. And no, the Sonata is NOT their luxury car. That would be the Equus.
 
So does getting both your legs broken and spending a month in traction because one of those stupid people was too busy playing with the super-cool display on the dash rather than paying attention to the road.

I'm just libertarian enough to not be too big a fan of nanny state ideals (whatever that happens to be, considering it changes depending on who you ask). But when it comes to driving, I'm about as totalitarian as Stalin's Russia. Hands free is alright. But anything that draws your eyes from the road while operating your two tons of steel and plastic at high speeds should be illegal. There are exceptions, of course. But I think that should be the general rule.

Think of it less as telling someone what they can or can't do, and more about keeping them from maiming you.
There are lots of ways people don't pay attention in the car. There's no way to legislate against it. I've been in four accidents in my life and not one of them involved a smartphone or any other modern technology.
 
But the whole idea of this system is to minimize distractions and maximize convenience. To change songs, reroute my maps, etc I currently have to use my iphone, even if just to activate Siri. With car play, I can use Siri eyes free by hitting a button on my steering wheel and never taking my eyes off the road. It can even read a text message to me (if I choose for it to do so... It won't do so automatically, or display the message on the screen) if I'm waiting for something like confirmation of which restaurant, or an update on a location of a friend.

Fight it all you want; but this will enable people to focus more on the road than they currently do, not encourage more "fiddling."

Like I said, hands free is perfectly alright. As long as the tech allows people to keep their eyes on the road while informing them, I'm okay with it.
 
On another side of the coin, Apple Maps has found locations that Google Maps didn't even know existed. NO mapping solution is 100%. Overall, I use Apple Maps nearly 100% of the time with ZERO issues. It's come a LONG way in a short amount of time. Also, Apple Maps is backed by TomTom. Speaking of which, I use TomTom on my iPhone if I don't have access to a cellular or data network to start navigation, which, again, has been great but not perfect.

Using a navigation screen is fine, since nearly all units now have voice guidance. The only time I reference the screen is if there's an interchange of multiple lanes and I need to make sure I take the right one. Otherwise, I rarely look at it while driving.

I'm 100% fine with navigation as long as your not interacting with the screen. I use my Note 3 everyday because I like how Waze shows traffic jams but I don't sit there playing around with the screen while behind the wheel.
 
This happens all over the world. I actually bought a 1999 Saturn in June of 1998. Car manufacturers used to start in January, then moved back to December to beat their competitors, then back to November, etc. September has been pretty normal for the past 20 years. But sometimes it's even earlier.

Just like magazines - their dates are screwed up too. See the latest issues on the news stand? They're all dated June 2014.

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The first one, you can't tell if he's driving or not.

MANY people, if not MOST read maps WHILE driving. It was as prevalent back then as using a cell phone while driving today is.

Why are you trying to be argumentative?

Here are pictures of people reading maps while driving. Happy?
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I'm being argumentative for 2 reasons
1. It's fun. if we didnt argue on a forum, what would we talk about?
"I THINK THIS!!!!"
"I AGREE!!!!"
and that would be the end of it. how boring..

and 2.

your posts generally have very heavy bias and leaning, often using hyperbole or outright incorrect statements, and thus, brings me back to point A, you often make yourself a target for it because of such.

I'm not sure how old you are, but as someone who was driving well before smartphones and GPS units. most people did NOT in fact drive with maps open blocking their view of the road. In fact, MOST people used to actually plan their routes out well ahead in advance so that when they did get on the road, a skill lost today. they didnt require staring at maps or annoying voices telling them where to go (unless of course you were married)
 
There are lots of ways people don't pay attention in the car. There's no way to legislate against it. I've been in four accidents in my life and not one of them involved a smartphone or any other modern technology.

Just because there are lots of distractions doesn't mean that we can keep adding others. And there is a way to legislate against certain types of distractions. It's called giving tickets out to people who do not use hands free headsets or play with displays while behind the wheel.
 
I'm being argumentative for 2 reasons
1. It's fun. if we didnt argue on a forum, what would we talk about?
"I THINK THIS!!!!"
"I AGREE!!!!"
and that would be the end of it. how boring..

and 2.

your posts generally have very heavy bias and leaning, often using hyperbole or outright incorrect statements, and thus, brings me back to point A, you often make yourself a target for it because of such.

I'm not sure how old you are, but as someone who was driving well before smartphones and GPS units. most people did NOT in fact drive with maps open blocking their view of the road. In fact, MOST people used to actually plan their routes out well ahead in advance so that when they did get on the road, they didnt require staring at maps or annoying voices telling them where to go (unless of course you were married)

maybe he's Clark Griswold
 
maybe he's Clark Griswold

Well, of course! but then again, I'd think the screaming children in the back seat might be a bigger distraction. Those kids were annoying!

Though, that wife was hot. as a kid in the 80's, I might have had a few dreams about that.
:D:eek:

Though, my parents got us a station wagon, i never had the pleasure of having a woodie
 
Actually the second picture is not only 100% legal but 100% safe because the wife is the one actually reading the map while the husband is doing the driving. Your point failed there. ;)

It's 100% safe having your wife read a map? What planet are you on? :)
 
Though, that wife was hot. as a kid in the 80's, I might have had a few dreams about that.
:D:eek:

The first Vacation was the best for a number of reasons. Those two scenes (you know what I'm talking about) being some of them.

What was really cool was how my mom and dad thought it'd be a sweet little kid safe movie, so they let me watch it by myself when I was, like, 8. And you know what I say to that?

HALLELUJAH! HOLY ****!
 
The first Vacation was the best for a number of reasons. Those two scenes (you know what I'm talking about) being some of them.

I must admit, it's probably been at least a decade since I watched the first vacation movie (going to have to watch it tonight at the gym to remember the scenes). but I watch the Christmas one every year... even though I don't celebrate christmas, its always a real fun movie.

umm edit for "on topic"...

Hyundais make some decent cars for today. Sure they're not luxury, but in the last 10 years or so they have absolutely brought their level of craftsmanship up out of the low quality crap that Korea used to be known for in the automotive industry. Including such modern features is only going to add to their lineup in positive ways
 
Like I said, hands free is perfectly alright. As long as the tech allows people to keep their eyes on the road while informing them, I'm okay with it.

This is actually why I think CarPlay is a killer feature. It's been hard to find a car head unit that is controllable by voice to the degree that Siri/etc on phones allow.

Plus, by moving the smarts to a phone, it makes it easier to tie into new media like Spotify, and generally expand what apps are available to you in the car without having to do anything but plug in the phone when you get into the car. Apple can also refine the experience further rather than requiring new hardware in the car when something needs to change.

Apple so far seems very serious about making sure that this stuff is done conservatively. The API for integrating 3rd party apps doesn't allow the app to present ANY UI of its own, and only currently supports music. Makes it easier for Apple to further integrate Siri into the 3rd party car apps, and ensure that the UI meets certain standards or regulations going forward.
 
I'm not sure how old you are, but as someone who was driving well before smartphones and GPS units. most people did NOT in fact drive with maps open blocking their view of the road. In fact, MOST people used to actually plan their routes out well ahead in advance so that when they did get on the road, a skill lost today. they didnt require staring at maps or annoying voices telling them where to go (unless of course you were married)

Driving around the town you grew up in, or from a known city to a known city, no problem. You plan before hand. Route 16 to 30 to 42. Okay - got it.

But as you're driving places you've never been, you look at a map to gauge your progress, make sure you didn't miss a turn. I was supposed to take route 32 or 34? Hmmm.... taking this road looks like a short cut.

Plus you've got a lot of maps to look through - your smaller maps of the entire country, maps of the state or region you're in, then close-up maps of counties or cities. Then a AAA guide map, then you're looking for hotels to stay at, trying to find the best way to get there on the map. You can either have your wife do it, and get lost, pull over to the side of the road (which in many places you CAN'T), or read the maps while driving. Reading the maps while driving is what all my family, relatives, everyone I know did.

I've drove in all 48 continental states in the US. I love driving. I'm not always around my home town. Maps are necessary. And most of the time I'm in an area I'm not familiar with. I was driving in the 1970s, and back then, you could find parts of the country where roads didn't even have route signs on them. Now everything is fairly well marked.
 
I must admit, it's probably been at least a decade since I watched the first vacation movie (going to have to watch it tonight at the gym to remember the scenes). but I watch the Christmas one every year... even though I don't celebrate christmas, its always a real fun movie.

That's the way it seems to be with most people. Christmas Vacation is pretty good, and yeah, it's the one I've watched the most, but it's just not as flat out low brow funny as the first.

It taught me a lot of solid life lessons when I was a kid. Like how rude it is to die when someone isn't home.
 
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