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Pictures are anecdotes. Plenty of people didn't pull over.

except the pictures he's using aren't real pictures.

They're staged examples in artistic style photography to try and use hyperbole to make something appear as more prevelant or realistic than actual existence.

Yes, People DID drive with maps. But the level of involvement and time spent doing so is nowhere near the levels that people use their mobile devices for today.

it was wrong then. it's still wrong now.

he really didnt have a point, and everyone is just having more fun poking holes in his attempted diversionary tactic that people do have legitimate concerns with Car head units interactivity while driving.

When i learned to drive. my parents, my driving instructors and classes taught us outright to plan your rout. Every step, stage and kilometer of it before getting in the car. That you can safely stow your maps in your backseat map pockets while driving and still get to where you want to go, yes, even places you've never been before. Memorize the markers you are to look for an know where and when you are to turn. use your passengers if you have them to help you. write out short notes with precise directions that are quicker and easier to glance at and less distracting if you believe the route to be complex (Like, Turn left at so and so , or right at the big boy..)

the excuse that routes can be long and complex is no excuse to drive unsafely and putting other people at risk on the road.
 
long standing tradition that Car manufacturers release their next years model cars in September of the year before. So this September will see the launch of 2015 models.

I'm not sure if this is just a North American thing or not, But its pretty much standard fare during my entire life, and my father says the same thing. Always September.

Don't forget about magazines on newsstands. These days you can find the new March issue in January.

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Don't insult his wife like that. His wife can function without internet.

You haven't met mine yet :D
 
Apple Slice Electric Car.

I still say Apple should partner up with Tesla ( or just purchase them ) and start producing their own high-tech electric cars. The first consumer model could be called the Slice.

:D :D :D :D
 
Except in Neither of these photos are the users actually driving their cars at the time :p

so i'm not sure what you're trying to prove. Both are doing it properly. Pulled over off the roadway, or parked.

So, if you were having a photo taken of you using a complex, uh, anything in a car, would you do it while trying to drive or pull over first? Now, does your answer apply to actual life?
 
I still say Apple should partner up with Tesla ( or just purchase them ) and start producing their own high-tech electric cars. The first consumer model could be called the Slice.

:D :D :D :D

And the price would be $200,000.
 
What are you trying to prove? That you can replace one wrong action with another?

I wasn't trying to prove anything, I was just pointing their was little meaning behind your "rebuttal". Sure, one of the pictures showed the driver pulled over, but that's not what everyone did, and completely aside from the point that the OP was making. The point of the picture was to show the paper map as a method of demonstrating that the navigation apps we have now are much less burdensome than that.

As an aside, pulling over on a busy road is not "as safe as you can get". Far from it.
 
Slice Up The Road With The New Apple Slice Electric Car!

And the price would be $200,000.

Well, gas prices might be $25 a gallon in a few years, so it might be worth it! But seriously, if Apple did make The Slice and priced it too high, then they probably wouldn't sell enough of them to keep making them. If Tesla has gone from $124,000 for the Tesla Roadster to $80,000 for the Model S 85kWh, and the Model X maybe priced at around $55,000, then surely Apple and Tesla combined can build a model that is closer to a $35,000 - $40,000 price range, which would allow more middle class potential buyers.

PS - and if Apple does creat an Apple Slice electric car, I hope they send a little cash my way for the idea. : )

:D :D :D :D
 
It could be argued that the nanny states in the us, like ca and ny, are run by the left so don't see the irony really.

The irony I was pointing out was that a conservative was talking about stupid people standing in the way of progress. Something that conservatives are well known for. Off topic though, I shouldn't have started it.
 
It could be argued that the nanny states in the us, like ca and ny, are run by the left so don't see the irony really.

as an external observer of US politics, Both sides want "nanny states", just their own versions of it.

but lets not get into that discussion.
 
as an external observer of US politics, Both sides want "nanny states", just their own versions of it.

but lets not get into that discussion.

I've lived in the US, several states. The left states are far worse, I will take nw ar over southern ca any day. Less racists also no matter what anyone tries to convince you. A canadian making that statement IS ironic.:)

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The irony I was pointing out was that a conservative was talking about stupid people standing in the way of progress. Something that conservatives are well known for. Off topic though, I shouldn't have started it.

Both of your messed up parties stand in the way of progress, just like ours do. As a minority that lived some in the us the left makes it their job to stand in the way of our progress, keep us down on the farm. Both sides are messed up.
 
he really didnt have a point, and everyone is just having more fun poking holes in his attempted diversionary tactic that people do have legitimate concerns with Car head units interactivity while driving.

That's exactly what the poster I replied to was doing though. Using a diversionary tactic to draw attention away from the point of the post. I didn't actually present an opinion on CarPlay in that post (although I will here), the laziness of the rebuttal just annoyed me.

You say there was no point to the OP's post, but I'd disagree. While texting on mobile devices has made things worse, mapping on mobile devices is absolutely an improvement. You should still plan your route ahead of time, but an improvement is an improvement, and worth pointing out.

CarPlay makes the current systems less of a mess than they are now. The people with "legitimate" concerns with interactive consoles should have been voicing them long before now. I understand that some people have done that, but this isn't aimed at them, it's aimed at people who are now "concerned" simply because Apple is involved.

I'd agree that anything that takes your eyes (or mind) off the road can serve as a distraction, but I'm also in favour of anything that reduces the current levels of distraction drivers face. The ship on interactive consoles has long since sailed and people using CarPlay is better than people using their mobile device directly, or using a poorly designed UI in their dash. As a driver, use your best judgment, but I don't see how CarPlay makes the situation worse than it is.
 
That's exactly what the poster I replied to was doing though. Using a diversionary tactic to draw attention away from the point of the post. I didn't actually present an opinion on CarPlay in that post (although I will here), the laziness of the rebuttal just annoyed me.

You say there was no point to the OP's post, but I'd disagree. While texting on mobile devices has made things worse, mapping on mobile devices is absolutely an improvement. You should still plan your route ahead of time, but an improvement is an improvement, and worth pointing out.

CarPlay makes the current systems less of a mess than they are now. The people with "legitimate" concerns with interactive consoles should have been voicing them long before now. I understand that some people have done that, but this isn't aimed at them, it's aimed at people who are now "concerned" simply because Apple is involved.

I'd agree that anything that takes your eyes (or mind) off the road can serve as a distraction, but I'm also in favour of anything that reduces the current levels of distraction drivers face. The ship on interactive consoles has long since sailed and people using CarPlay is better than people using their mobile device directly, or using a poorly designed UI in their dash. As a driver, use your best judgment, but I don't see how CarPlay makes the situation worse than it is.
I whole heartedly agree.

current mapping solutions are light years ahead and safer than pulling out a map and reading it while driving..

but thats not because they're digital maps. But because they're setup to be audible, and give very large and easy to read navigation instructions that help reduce the time your eyes leave the road.

The point bbeagle was trying to make was very lost because he was using hyperbole in his imagery. Something he often does'
 
Really astonished they didn't go with something featuring Samsung components.

Are you surprised Hyundai wants to sell cars by including features people want?


I still do not see how this stuff is legal. All of these states are going to "hands free" and this just encourages you to multitask while driving.

I don't see how you seem to not fully understand CarPlay yet choose to complain about it even still.
 
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Is there any news about intergration into older systems? I just brought my car about 2 years ago Veloster Turbo with nav package and this is a feature I would love to have. I can't see why they couldn't provide a software upgrade, even if it cost money. The guts of the processing is being done by the phone. If anyone has any news please do share.


They want people to buy new cars. Doing a software update won't get people all hyped up to buy a new car.
 
I was about to dismiss this as useless in a car I’d never buy, mostly due to it’s looks, but then I saw a recently released picture of what the 2015 Sonata will look like. Suddenly I’m interested.
 
I was about to dismiss this as useless in a car I’d never buy, mostly due to it’s looks, but then I saw a recently released picture of what the 2015 Sonata will look like. Suddenly I’m interested.

Yes, Hyundai and its sister Kia gave come a long way in the looks & drivability department. They are quite competitive now in the low and mid market. Their high end is very nice too but still have a hard time wrapping my head around a $60K Hyundai.
 
Are you surprised Hyundai wants to sell cars by including features people want?

My comment was simply that, a comment. I feel like Samsung also offers great products, and is based in South Korea along with Hyundai.

I am thrilled they chose to include Apple in their future products, just was surprised that's all.
 
I've lived in the US, several states. The left states are far worse, I will take nw ar over southern ca any day. Less racists also no matter what anyone tries to convince you. A canadian making that statement IS ironic.:)

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yeah, but I admit that we're a nanny state... All our parties claim to be less than eachother, yet each of them are pretty bad. It comes from our fairly socialist background. it's not bad per se, but depending on the parrty in power... yikes..


but it's something I see in the US. Both sides seem to say "my party isn't a nanny state party".... what it comes down to, Republican supporters don't generally have too much problem with the laws republicans want to pass, and Dem supporters genearlly don't have problems with laws that Dem's want to pass.

so eachother don't really see that both are trying to ultimately do the same thing. pass laws to better their own interests.

most of these nannystate policies (this includes Canada now), aren't really in place for OUR best interest, but the best interest of the politicians and the chequebooks of their fellow corporate cronies.

In the end,, We are all losing. I'm of the firm belief that if personal action has no public impact that the state has zero right to interfere.

but now we are far far far off topic
 
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