Hyundai Launching CarPlay in Sonata in First Quarter of 2016

[solipsism]

2015 Sonata owner here. On one hand I've been eagerly awaiting this for over a year now, assuming they even keep their word on 2015 compatibility. On the other hand CarPlay will be useless to me if it doesn't support Waze. Or can you still run arbitrary apps on the phone itself while it is controlling a CarPlay device?

That's up to Waze. 3rd-party app makers can support CarPlay. Some already do, and I'd hope Waze will be there soon as CarPlay (and AndroidAuto) gain traction.

Thing is when most consumers hear the name "Hyundai" they don't associate it with the likes of Mercedes, BMW or Tesla. The name is generally associated with affordability.

As shown, they have a wide range of prices and vehicles, like most other major car manufacturers, despite your opinion that they only sell "affordable" cars.

 

[D.T.]

2015 Sonata owner here. On one hand I've been eagerly awaiting this for over a year now, assuming they even keep their word on 2015 compatibility. On the other hand CarPlay will be useless to me if it doesn't support Waze. Or can you still run arbitrary apps on the phone itself while it is controlling a CarPlay device?

I'm also waiting for a "promised" Car Play update for Ford's Sync 3 system. As far as I know, Waze still isn't on Car Play (it requires specific implementation), but I'm curious about your last question, i.e., does the iPhone go into a fully dedicated "CarPlay mode", or can it run CP and it's normal UI concurrently[?]

 

[RB1959]

I'm also waiting for a "promised" Car Play update for Ford's Sync 3 system. As far as I know, Waze still isn't on Car Play (it requires specific implementation), but I'm curious about your last question, i.e., does the iPhone go into a fully dedicated "CarPlay mode", or can it run CP and it's normal UI concurrently[?]

The phone can still be used while connected to CarPlay. It doesn't disable the phone, although if you open another app on the phone it closes what you have open on the head unit. I love CarPlay and personally think it's far safer, but I think it should lock the phone to make it unusable whilst plugged in to the CarPlay unit.

 

[jaymzuk]

I've read that the head units being shipped today don't include the hardware necessary to enable wireless connectivity. Even if they did, I wouldn't be shocked if the manufacturers refuse to enable the feature and leave it for new models only as an 'upgraded' feature.

Looks like they're learning a trick from Apple then.

Not sure about Carplay yet myself. I don't like the fact that the onus always seems to be on app-makers to make a new Apple platform successful (Oh, you don't have a dedicated iPad/Apple Watch/CarPlay version of your app?) while the ever growing list of stock Apple apps looks to remain as useless as ever

 

[slprescott]

Carplay needs to expand its App support.. or rather Developers need to expand support. So far, it's only Media Apps that support it.

To any devs on this forum:

Has Apple provided developers guidance on creating apps for CarPlay? (I'm a fledgling dev, learning the tools now.) I haven't seen any. It seems like CarPlay now is like Apple TV was before the recent overhaul: a useful display format but not a "first class citizen" able to run a general purpose set of third-party apps.

 

[WilliamG]

CarPlay is wired only at the moment. I believe the phone supports wireless, but no manufacturer has shipped a wireless capable head unit.

As for the touchscreen, I believe the 2016 Accords are capacitance based touch.

I believe this is true. I just got a new VW Golf and it has Car Play, only wired. I imagine the battery life hit over wireless would be huge since it's a screen mirroring technology among other things.

 

[D.T.]

The phone can still be used while connected to CarPlay. It doesn't disable the phone, although if you open another app on the phone it closes what you have open on the head unit. I love CarPlay and personally think it's far safer, but I think it should lock the phone to make it unusable whilst plugged in to the CarPlay unit.

Thanks! I was hoping someone with direct experience would reply (couldn't find any discussion about what happens on the phone side, and how that affected CP).

 

[bstpierre]

Even a conversation with someone in the car reduces your reaction time. If one pays attention, they will notice that they will look at the front seat passenger in which the are talking to from time to time. With hands-free there is nothing but the road and instrument panel that needs to be looked at it, so one could argue that talking to someone in a car is potentially slightly more dangerous.

But even those that take personal precautions, also need to be aware of how others might reaction around them. I can't wait until autonomous driving removes a most of the major accidents on the road.

One advantage of having the conversation in the car versus over the phone is that you have another set of eyes on the road and the other person in the conversation can tell when it is a good time to stop talking so the driver can complete a more demanding maneuver.

 

[HenryDJP]

As shown, they have a wide range of prices and vehicles, like most other major car manufacturers, despite your opinion that they only sell "affordable" cars.

Regardless of the "wide range of prices" Hyundai offers, what I stated was fact and not an opinion. Hyundai is generally known as an affordable car from a Korean manufacturer and they are not plastered in people's heads as being in the same league as most other high-end cars. And please learn to read posts because I never said, "Hyundai ONLY SELLS affordable cars".

 

[69Mustang]

That's up to Waze. 3rd-party app makers can support CarPlay. Some already do, and I'd hope Waze will be there soon as CarPlay (and AndroidAuto) gain traction.

Afaik, this is incorrect. 3rd party devs can't arbitrarily submit apps for CP/AA. Well they can, but they may not be approved. Apple and Google are being very cautious with mapping especially. Google owns Waze and you can't even use it on AA. Unbeknownst to us, Waze may have submitted it's app. To date, it hasn't been approved for addition to CP/AA.

As shown, they have a wide range of prices and vehicles, like most other major car manufacturers, despite your opinion that they only sell "affordable" cars.

I feel like I'm in the Henry defense industry today. You've missed the entire context of his original and subsequent post. You seem unable to get past the Hyundai portion of his comment. Basically he's saying it a good thing CP is available on all cars and not just premium brands. That's it. No, Hyundai doesn't only sell affordable cars, but it's quite obvious the vast, vast majority of their line up falls under the category of affordable. The Equus is their exception, not the rule. The Equus is their unicorn in a field of horses.

 

[mdelvecchio]

Even a conversation with someone in the car reduces your reaction time. If one pays attention, they will notice that they will look at the front seat passenger in which the are talking to from time to time. With hands-free there is nothing but the road and instrument panel that needs to be looked at it, so one could argue that talking to someone in a car is potentially slightly more dangerous.

But even those that take personal precautions, also need to be aware of how others might reaction around them. I can't wait until autonomous driving removes a most of the major accidents on the road.

talking to someone in your vehicle costs less via cognitive load than talking to someone on the other end of a telephone. this has been tested and published somewhere... your suggestion that hands-free is safer because of no sideways glances didnt seem to hold muster. heck even doing nothing drivers occasionally glance around their vehicle.

 

[AbSoluTc]

And yet independent research in many countries shows that using a phone when driving, be that hands free or physically holding the phone is a huge distraction and has been responsible for many deaths?

What would be a step forward is if technology could be made to make the phone shut down for both incoming and outgoing calls when a car is in motion.

Doing anything OTHER THAN driving is a distraction/hazard to operating a moving vehicle
. Not just phones. Music, talking, navigation, and the like.

 

[gbc204]

I have a 2015 Hyundai Sonata. I have emailed their HQ multiple times about the CarPlay launch and availability. They continued to stick by backwards compatibility for the '15 models. Fingers crossed.

This wasn't the deciding factor when I bought my 2015 Sonata, but it was definitely on my mind. Hope they come through and actually make this backwards compatible. Didn't have great confidence in it when I asked the dealership about CarPlay and their response was "What's that?" so glad you at least seem to have gotten someone to acknowledge that it'll be in th 2015 models at some point.

 

[MH01]

Since MR is going to the effort of launching car play in ever model, would it be possible to have a table to spread sheet showing which model have/do not have car play?

 

[MH01]

Correct. Thank U. My comment wasn't meant that Hyundai's are cheapo crap cars. I owned one and it ran very well without issues. I definitely meant inexpensive. Thing is when most consumers hear the name "Hyundai" they don't associate it with the likes of Mercedes, BMW or Tesla. The name is generally associated with affordability.

How do hyundais price themselves against the American cars? Are they competing against fords etc? Or do they cost more as imports ? Unless they are made in the US?

 

[SteveBlobs]

After driving with my father-in-law over the holidays in his new Toyota, I have begun to have serious doubts about all these new infotainment systems. He literally almost drove off the road about 10 times trying to change a pandora station or fight with the voice nav system. Granted, that was Toyota's Entune, but from everything I've read, Car Play is just about the worst at making people distracted drivers. People are bad enough drivers as it is. As more and more people begin to purchase vehicles with these systems, I dread what comes next.

 

[dampfnudel]

I have a 2015 Hyundai Sonata. I have emailed their HQ multiple times about the CarPlay launch and availability. They continued to stick by backwards compatibility for the '15 models. Fingers crossed.

My relative owns a 2015 Honda Civic and was hoping his car was backward compatible with CarPlay. He called Honda customer care earlier this year and they told him yes it would be. Now, we know they lied. Only the 2016+ Civic/Accord models get it. Given how aggressive Hyundai has been in the market the past few years, it's possible they told you the truth, but when you look at all of the other auto companies, basically if your car/suv didn't have CarPlay when you drove off the dealer's lot, you're not getting CarPlay unless you install some third-party setup yourself.

 

[Surfin3591]

Too bad Hyundai's suck. Leased two of them and literally were the worst cars I've ever had.

 

[StoneJack]

It is interesting how CarPlay is becoming a serious factor for selecting cars to purchase. I am not planning to buy a new vehicle soon, but the fact that in one year, CarPlay became so important, shows how good is Apple at entering completely new markets.

 

[shareef777]

It is interesting how CarPlay is becoming a serious factor for selecting cars to purchase. I am not planning to buy a new vehicle soon, but the fact that in one year, CarPlay became so important, shows how good is Apple at entering completely new markets.

You're seeing this on an Apple rumors forum. It's not that big of a deal for most consumers.

 

[73b]

How do hyundais price themselves against the American cars? Are they competing against fords etc? Or do they cost more as imports ? Unless they are made in the US?

Many models are made in the US. They compete with ford/GM on their cheaper cars but they do sell the Equus and Genesis which are both very expensive and more in the range of BMW/Mercedes.

 

[solipsism]

talking to someone in your vehicle costs less via cognitive load than talking to someone on the other end of a telephone. this has been tested and published somewhere... your suggestion that hands-free is safer because of no sideways glances didnt seem to hold muster. heck even doing nothing drivers occasionally glance around their vehicle.

I've love to see this study where having an in-depth conversation in a vehicle requires less "cognitive load" than over a hands-free system for the exact conservation. What additional "cognitive load" does the phone call add? We're not talking about having to press any buttons to accept or end a call here, just the conservation itself. Can't wait to read it.

 

[solipsism]

Afaik, this is incorrect. 3rd party devs can't arbitrarily submit apps for CP/AA. Well they can, but they may not be approved. Apple and Google are being very cautious with mapping especially. Google owns Waze and you can't even use it on AA. Unbeknownst to us, Waze may have submitted it's app. To date, it hasn't been approved for addition to CP/AA.

You clam I'm wrong, and then you note I'm correct because they can submit apps… which is how the App Store works. The developer certainly has to jump through Apple's hoops to be approved. This is how it's been since it began.

I feel like I'm in the Henry defense industry today. You've missed the entire context of his original and subsequent post. You seem unable to get past the Hyundai portion of his comment. Basically he's saying it a good thing CP is available on all cars and not just premium brands. That's it. No, Hyundai doesn't only sell affordable cars, but it's quite obvious the vast, vast majority of their line up falls under the category of affordable. The Equus is their exception, not the rule. The Equus is their unicorn in a field of horses.

Oh, I get his context, but his base assumption is a fallacy. For starters, he uses the term "affordable" which means absolutely nothing in an scientific sense as it's not definitive. This is why you may see Hyunai advertise their Genesis as the most affordable car in its class. See how that's qualified, but take a look at the Genesis prices. There are plenty of other automobile companies that sell less expensive cars. If Henry is trying to argue that Hyundai gives you a lot of car, with good quality for a given price, compared to others in its class, he's doing a piss-poor job of it. I've already stated on the first page that I think you get a lot for what you pay; I know this first hand, which is why I bought a Hyundai in 2013 and will consider buying one again, despite many here being against anything from S. Korea.

 

[miamialley]

Once you've been in a vehicle with CarPlay, it makes all old bt connected systems seem really old school. I've rented a few GM cars with it and was really surprised by how seamlessly it worked. Plug my iPhone in and accept the connection, no having to find the right bt connection, maybe delete old connections when the car has too many other people's phones stored, being able to have your texts automatically read. The only thing I didn't like was Maps as the car's system seemed faster.

CarPlay was a big factor in buying my 2016 Volt. I love it! Maps was slow? It's the exact same speed as using your phone only and the interface is better than any car manufacturer system. So, if anyone has concerns about this, don't.

 

[MH01]

Many models are made in the US. They compete with ford/GM on their cheaper cars but they do sell the Equus and Genesis which are both very expensive and more in the range of BMW/Mercedes.

Cheers for the answer.