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I absolutely despise the Touch Bar

myscrnnm said:
Hmm, a cheaper MacBook Pro with no Touch Bar, you say? I think Apple has just the thing for you.
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Why is there always someone not able to figure out, when he bought a 15", he has no interrest in a 13". If he had interrest, you don't think he would be mentally able to pick the 13" himself?

You may have bought a Macbook Pro 15", but hmm, you want one without the strip? I think IBM has just the thing for you, a 486DX2 with CRT monitor right over there!
 
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mattopotamus said:
I understand they want to push people towards the TB, but it does seem a little odd they didn't offer a 15" without TB.
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Not if you remember what they said on the release , that the 13 model without TB is basically going to be a macbook air replacement, considering that it wouldn't make sense for them to create a 15" model without TB
 
Abaganov said:
Not if you remember what they said on the release , that the 13 model without TB is basically going to be a macbook air replacement, considering that it wouldn't make sense for them to create a 15" model without TB
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I understand that is what they said, but the 13" no TB model benchmarks nearly the same as the maxed out 13" 2015 pro. That seems far from a Air replacement to me. Plus there is significant battery gains, or at least that is the way real world usage is looking so far.
 
mattopotamus said:
I understand that is what they said, but the 13" no TB model benchmarks nearly the same as the maxed out 13" 2015 pro. That seems far from a Air replacement to me. Plus there is significant battery gains, or at least that is the way real world usage is looking so far.
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I agree with you, just from their marketing point of view it wouldn't make sense to have so many different kind of models.
 
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therealseebs said:
Clamshell mode.

And yeah, I'm not at all impressed. In practice, none of the apps I'm using have app-specific magic, and honestly if I could just set the touchbar to always stay in fn-held mode, I'd probably mind it less.

Be glad the keys themselves on the main keyboard work for you. For those of us who get RSI pain from it, it's... gonna be a rough patch, here.
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What is RSI pain?

I remember my fingers hurt after a little while typing on the MacBook 12. That kind of worried me. The less travel makes me press harder the keys and therefore I get pain. On the old keyboard I never felt this, not even after hours of typing.
 
Sensamic said:
What is RSI pain?

I remember my fingers hurt after a little while typing on the MacBook 12. That kind of worried me. The less travel makes me press harder the keys and therefore I get pain. On the old keyboard I never felt this, not even after hours of typing.
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Repetitive strain injury
 
Lenovo had it right by having dedicated Esc key separated from their "touchbar"

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I have to say Safari on Touch Bar is a f******* mess. I can't believe Tim allowed for Safari tabs to look so ugly on their flagship, supposedly "the most beautiful" MacBook Pro. Hard to believe they couldn't come up with a more elegant way of displaying Safari tabs. Oh, and imagine how annoying it is to have to stare at this ugly mess every time I use Safari, which is like 99% of the time.
 
sniffies said:
I have to say Safari on Touch Bar is a f******* mess. I can't believe Tim allowed for Safari tabs to look so ugly on their flagship, supposedly "the most beautiful" MacBook Pro. Hard to believe they couldn't come up with a more elegant way of displaying Safari tabs. Oh, and imagine how annoying it is to have to stare at this ugly mess every time I use Safari, which is like 99% of the time.
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So you stare at your keyboard 99% of the time you're browsing the internet?
 
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sniffies said:
I have to say Safari on Touch Bar is a f******* mess. I can't believe Tim allowed for Safari tabs to look so ugly on their flagship, supposedly "the most beautiful" MacBook Pro. Hard to believe they couldn't come up with a more elegant way of displaying Safari tabs. Oh, and imagine how annoying it is to have to stare at this ugly mess every time I use Safari, which is like 99% of the time.
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You mean there's something uglier than Safari?
 
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sniffies said:
I have to say Safari on Touch Bar is a f******* mess. I can't believe Tim allowed for Safari tabs to look so ugly on their flagship, supposedly "the most beautiful" MacBook Pro. Hard to believe they couldn't come up with a more elegant way of displaying Safari tabs. Oh, and imagine how annoying it is to have to stare at this ugly mess every time I use Safari, which is like 99% of the time.
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I agree, it looks terrible, and there's not much functionality there either. You can just do what I did though and remove that section entirely. I also find the bookmarks popping up in full color every time you enter a URL somewhat distracting, and unfortunately there's no way to disable that from what I can tell.
 
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Thanks for preparing me, really. Doesn't sound good, but after all, it's supposedly customizable ... supposedly
 
The Touch Bar might be useful for people that can't type without looking at the keyboard.

But, for all other people that type quickly and don't have to look at the keyboard, the Touch Bar makes absolutely no sense.

Everything it does can be done by moving your mouse pointer around the screen.

Emojis are shown in a single line on the Touch Bar, where you have to swipe your finger left and right to look for the one you want.
Meanwhile, by pressing control + cmd + space, a window with several columns and lines shows easily selectable (with mouse) emojis. All that without having to look at the keyboard.
 
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justinf77 said:
I agree, it looks terrible, and there's not much functionality there either. You can just do what I did though and remove that section entirely. I also find the bookmarks popping up in full color every time you enter a URL somewhat distracting, and unfortunately there's no way to disable that from what I can tell.
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Oh yeah, totally forgot to mention the colorful bookmarks. Super distracting. Touch Bar looks and works best when it's monochrome or just a little bit of color.
 
bopajuice said:
Upgrading for the sake of upgrading. You guys are your own worst enemies.
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Upgrading from Mac 2010 is way more than just "upgrading for the sake of upgrading", trust me.
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davidcmc said:
The Touch Bar might be useful for people that can't type without looking at the keyboard.

But, for all other people that type quickly and don't have to look at the keyboard, the Touch Bar makes absolutely no sense.

Everything it does can be done by moving your mouse pointer around the screen.

Emojis are shown in a single line on the Touch Bar, where you have to swipe your finger left and right to look for the one you want.
Meanwhile, by pressing control + cmd + space, a window with several columns and lines shows easily selectable (with mouse) emojis. All that without having to look at the keyboard.
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And they're searchable too.
 
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