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I agree that all (or at least most) should show up (at the appropriate zoom level of course), but some is better than NONE! I see this being something Apple gradually increases the number of over time
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I agree that all (or at least most) should show up (at the appropriate zoom level of course), but some is better than NONE! I see this being something Apple gradually increases the number of over time
AllSubway, Hopstop, CityTransit (official NYC Subways), Exit Strategy, iTrans NYC Subway, NYC Sbuway 24hr, NYSubView Pro, Next Stop, Roadify (subways and buses)
All the above should give you some to try out for NYC. Larger cities have plenty of options.
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Sure I suppose. I have never, ever used the public transit in google maps so I can't really comment. But in my opinion, I would think 3rd party solution would be pretty good because of the competition between them. I don't know if they are available everywhere or not. Although I think it would probably be nice if Apple allowed 3rd party apps to integrate more directly into the maps app instead of jumping out.
Which reminds me of something that I was a bit peeved by. To read (more than 3) reviews or look at the enlarged picture of businesses etc, you get bumped out into the yelp app. I was expecting all of that to be integrated right there in the maps app. I think that's really dumb. Same with reservations with opentable
There's no question in my mind that now that Apple has hired Google Maps Engineers that know what they are doing, the mapping project at Apple will turn out to be truly excellent. All it takes is time.
As I have said, even before Apple decided to go outside for help, creating a mapping system from scratch is a daunting task. Apple is too determined to not have it turn out right.
As I have said, even before Apple decided to go outside for help, creating a mapping system from scratch is a daunting task. Apple is too determined to not have it turn out right.
Of course there are options. I could also carry a pocket map with me, or look at the maps in the station. It may be "handy" that I can link to useful apps from within the Apple maps, but I expected the maps app to have that built in.
Being able to switch from transit to driving to walking was a great feature of Google maps. It's one of the reasons I'm not updating to 6 on my iPhone.
And as I said in some other thread, if Apple wants to tout their green cred, they ought to offer public transit options.
Those are two possible solutions but something tells me won't / don't want to.
not being built in isn't the end of the world. My guess is if you're even remotely a solid iPhone user, you have plenty of non-built in apps that bring value to your life. I'm not trying to belittle your situation but am just looking at it from a different perspective. There's a pun in there somewhere I think.
You must have a heck of a commute to have to drive to the train station, ride the rails and then still have to walk. Seriously. However, you can do similar with other applications and honestly even if you used two different ones, it would only be one extra step and I doubt you would do all three every time you go somewhere.
I think they tout their green cred. and small business development cred by letting the third party apps do some of the secondary things like public transit. Again, the app store is likely one of the most significant developments for Apple in the success of the iDevice world. The first generation iPhone...seriously....wasn't very good. The ability to have apps made it way better.
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The good news is correcting the data set and alignments that appear to be off, especially over seas is likely much easier to do than fixing the rest.
turn by turn is pretty good. My only gripes with it, was it gave me a longer way of getting to my destination and no street view.
I love iOS6 Maps as well. I don't dispute that people are finding problems but this is a first generation product. From that perspective, it's amazing that it's as complete and feature rich as it is.
In Toronto, I've been finding that it's pretty good but there seems to be a bit of an issue with pinpointing an address to the right location on the map. The address is correct, but some pins are off by as much as half a city block. I've submitted error reports for those that I found so hopefully they'll adjust the data so that it gets more accurate.
Mind you, Google maps also occasionally had this problem and they've been around for a decade! Apple just has a big target on its back so every little problem will be blown up x10 in the media and in online communities.
As for StreetView, I think that Apple's approach will pay off in the long run. Instead of cars taking pictures of streets, their C3 acquisition is enabling them to scan cities from the air. Eventually, FlyOver will get increasingly higher resolution and you'll be able to zoom in on store fronts from the air. This is already the case with some downtown bulldings. You can zoom in to a point where you can read signs at street level.
I previously used StreetView for more accurate pinpointing of an address in Google Maps and now ill be using FlyOver to accomplish the same thing.
In Toronto, I've been finding that it's pretty good but there seems to be a bit of an issue with pinpointing an address to the right location on the map. The address is correct, but some pins are off by as much as half a city block. I've submitted error reports for those that I found so hopefully they'll adjust the data so that it gets more accurate.
Mind you, Google maps also occasionally had this problem and they've been around for a decade! Apple just has a big target on its back so every little problem will be blown up x10 in the media and in online communities.
As for StreetView, I think that Apple's approach will pay off in the long run. Instead of cars taking pictures of streets, their C3 acquisition is enabling them to scan cities from the air. Eventually, FlyOver will get increasingly higher resolution and you'll be able to zoom in on store fronts from the air. This is already the case with some downtown bulldings. You can zoom in to a point where you can read signs at street level.
I previously used StreetView for more accurate pinpointing of an address in Google Maps and now ill be using FlyOver to accomplish the same thing.
let's not even talk about the lack of public transit options. this is a screen cap of entire blocks of businesses in Chicago that have no information. CHICAGO!!! this is what i've found for multiple areas in the city when trying to find POI to get to or send people.
and who cares if google maps started out bad and we dealt with it. what i had last thursday worked great. what i have today sucks.
it's neither reasonable to force this on me nor ask me to do their homework for them in order to make it a working product.
btw, don't tell me it's because of my zoom level. i zoomed all the way in and out and didn't have anything show up.
and who cares if google maps started out bad and we dealt with it. what i had last thursday worked great. what i have today sucks.
it's neither reasonable to force this on me nor ask me to do their homework for them in order to make it a working product.
btw, don't tell me it's because of my zoom level. i zoomed all the way in and out and didn't have anything show up.
It Just takes time. Make sure if you see a problem report it. I have to be honest I have not had any issues but I am sure Apple Maps is far from perfect. I have had a ton of problems with google maps. I have found nothing has been as accurate as dedicated gps solutions. If Apple did anything wrong it trusted Google but I am not shaming Google because business is war. I just do not like that Dont Be Evil garbage they spew because it untrue. They will do anything to get ahead like any other corporation.
No, let's. I insist. I downloaded the free "Transit" app suggested by Maps. It works and looks beautifully and in Toronto I'm finding it much more accurate than Google maps transit routing in a side by side comparison with my iPhone 4 still on iOS 5.
I think that this approach will win out eventually. A city's transit system will be able to integrate directly in Apple Maps and you'll be sure to get the most accurate and uptodate transit data. There's even the option that you'll be able to buy a transit pass directly from Maps which will go into your Passbook.
Apple is building from a future proof foundation looking at the wider picture. Google maps was too constrained a platform on which to develop the future of iOS.
Good article. I agree that it's from a persepective that understands the why more than most. Although most all the other news bites never intend on getting the why, they just continue to fan flames of drama to egg on more.
The last paragraph sums it up well.
- iOS vs. Android is about competing ecosystems, battled by two ecosystem champs.
- Apple knows that ecosystem wars are long ones, wherein victories are granted to smart positioning and indefatigable build-up.
- Apple Maps is embarrassing, but the flush of humiliation can be cooled by swift correctives. - which I believe will happen.
I completely agree that in the end, it's the positioning that matters in the long run.
I'm confused. Here's a view of the same area you posted and I see several POI.
When I switch to hybrid the area appears mostly residential. What are you expecting to see here?
as noted in the other thread with the same post:
Not all POI will graphically appear on the map simply upon zooming in. Search on coffee, chicago 60634 and you'll see push-pins pop up where they wouldn't be visible without actually doing the search.
Here's the area with just a simple search on the zip code. Notice, nothing....
However, if you search for a POI....they will appear.
It's all in how you use a tool. Not every GPS or mapping system is going to put every icon on the screen. It would be crazy busy overlapped with stuff. The deli on a main drag near me doesn't appear either, but if I type in deli and do a search a push pops up, shows yelp reviews and provides me with tons of choices to choose for my lunch.
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thanks. i was looking while traveling and couldn't find anything. put the map back where i thought i was.
happened again today in a totally different area. with a ton of businesses
I'm probably in the minority, but I never thought Google maps was all that great. Time will tell how Apple maps does for me. Specifically, on drives to Chicago area, Google maps would constantly try and tell you to leave the interstate and take back roads to another interstate 30 minutes out of the way. This is still occurring after reporting it for 3 years. Dead wrong and never addressed. Haven't made the trip yet to see what Apple maps does. Can't imagine it would be worse.
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