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Aces2412

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Mar 21, 2012
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I am a little frustrated about the misinformation about the water resistance. Apple gives it a rating allowing it to go underwater 1 meter for no more than 30 mins. But they say you can get it wet in the shower or rain but I would not submerge it. What?

**Apple Watch is splash and water resistant but not waterproof. You can, for example, wear and use Apple Watch during exercise, in the rain, and while washing your hands, but submerging Apple Watch is not recommended. Apple Watch has a water resistance rating of IPX7 under IEC standard 60529. The leather bands are not water resistant.

So this statement says two different things.

Regardless I will swim with the watch within the first 30 or 14 days and if it gets water damage then back it will go and Apple would be responsible for replacing it. I swim a lot so I will probably just return it and head to pebble.

My point is if you give it a IPX7 rating then own it. :eek:
 
I am a little frustrated about the misinformation about the water resistance. Apple gives it a rating allowing it to go underwater 1 meter for no more than 30 mins. But they say you can get it wet in the shower or rain but I would not submerge it. What?

**Apple Watch is splash and water resistant but not waterproof. You can, for example, wear and use Apple Watch during exercise, in the rain, and while washing your hands, but submerging Apple Watch is not recommended. Apple Watch has a water resistance rating of IPX7 under IEC standard 60529. The leather bands are not water resistant.

So this statement says two different things.

Regardless I will swim with the watch within the first 30 or 14 days and if it gets water damage then back it will go and Apple would be responsible for replacing it. I swim a lot so I will probably just return it and head to pebble.

My point is if you give it a IPX7 rating then own it. :eek:

I'm sure the mic and speaker ports will enjoy that water.
 
Apple can't give it an official rating and they refuse to stand by that rating.

In the UK anyway that would be false advertising, and you could say it's not fit for the purpose.

It either is rated or it isn't.
 
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How arrogant. I guarantee you that you will not get another Apple Watch if you have submerged it in water and it breaks, as you'll have set off internal water sensors.
 
And how exactly do you swim without your hand ever going deeper than 1m? Better set the timer on that A Watch too as you only have 30 minutes to get out of the kiddie pool!
 
I really cannot see how Apple can advertise this:

"2. Apple Watch is splash and water resistant but not waterproof. You can, for example, wear and use Apple Watch during exercise, in the rain, and while washing your hands, but submerging Apple Watch is not recommended. Apple Watch has a water resistance rating of IPX7 under IEC standard 60529"

In the UK the Advertising Authority may be able to help there.
You cannot say, it's not waterproof, but it has a guaranteed waterproof official rating.
 
And how exactly do you swim without your hand ever going deeper than 1m? Better set the timer on that A Watch too as you only have 30 minutes to get out of the kiddie pool!

I do it through years of experience and skill. Its the point.
 
Easy. I do laps and my arms I would bet are less than a meter under water or close. It's not like a constant dive.

And you just slither into the pool? I'm trying to understand. How do you get in and start swimming without ever going deeper than 1m? I get that once you are in your stroke but I'm having trouble with the before and after.
 
I really cannot see how Apple can advertise this:

"2. Apple Watch is splash and water resistant but not waterproof. You can, for example, wear and use Apple Watch during exercise, in the rain, and while washing your hands, but submerging Apple Watch is not recommended. Apple Watch has a water resistance rating of IPX7 under IEC standard 60529"

In the UK the Advertising Authority may be able to help there.
You cannot say, it's not waterproof, but it has a guaranteed waterproof official rating.

Are you not getting confused between the phrase waterproof and water resistant?
 
Water resistant is not equal to water proof because well if it is considered waterproof up to a certain amount of meters that means that it can withstand the pressure of the water (Pebble is rated for 5ATM).
 
And you just slither into the pool? I'm trying to understand. How do you get in and start swimming without ever going deeper than 1m? I get that once you are in your stroke but I'm having trouble with the before and after.

No I dive, and swim shallow. I am not condoning the swim with apple watch but it can be don. 3 ft of water standing in my 4'9" pool would not be difficult to be mindful of its limitations.

A pain. Yes.

I do swim 100% with my watch and will not be getting this apple watch for really this reason to be honest.
 
How is apple going to handle water damage on this device? Can you imagine a 17k watch that has said damage, good lord.

Assuming Apple has some sort of AppleCare + for the watch, which I'm not sure if they do or not, the 17K watch is almost all profit margin, and the electronics that could get damaged are exactly the same as in the low end cheapest model. So probably they just take it for a couple days and switch the electronics out for you.
 
Assuming Apple has some sort of AppleCare + for the watch, which I'm not sure if they do or not, the 17K watch is almost all profit margin, and the electronics that could get damaged are exactly the same as in the low end cheapest model. So probably they just take it for a couple days and switch the electronics out for you.

Interesting. Wonder how easy it is to remove the guts.
 
This is a quote from Garmin's page that I think might apply here:

You should note that even if a device is above a depth it's rated for, it might still suffer water ingression if it is subjected to an activity that creates pressure on it that exceeds that depth rating.
 
http://www.garmin.com/en-US/legal/waterrating
http://www.polar.com/us-en/support/Polar_Products_in_Water_Environmen
thttp://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2ga2jq/water_proof_water_resistant_ip68_what_does_it/

And there are more examples... Every product I found that has an IPX7 rating says do not swim with it. Swimming means you are moving your arms rapidly, that adds water pressure that is not present with an accident dip.

Also, these ratings are not progressive - just because it has a "7" doesn't mean 1-6 is OK. Some of those are powerful jets, some are tests up to only 3 minutes... So a shower hitting the Watch at close range, like when you are washing your head, at higher temperatures (affects seal), is risky.

These ratings are guidelines and not complete - so they are expected to be followed in the context of the total instructions and warnings by the manufacturer.

If Apple says don't submerge, you are taking a suckers risk.

How accurate are the tests? What if the Watch submerges 1.1 meters for 29 minutes? Or .9 meters for 32 minutes? What about manufacturing variances? Not all seals are precisely the same.

I will not wear it in the shower or pool, or beach. Rain, I will take a chance with, and Apple can pony up if it fails. But after the warranty period, I'll avoid the rain. This is not a robust device, unfortunately.

And if you press a button in these conditions, that changes everything.
 
I am a little frustrated about the misinformation about the water resistance. Apple gives it a rating allowing it to go underwater 1 meter for no more than 30 mins. But they say you can get it wet in the shower or rain but I would not submerge it. What?

**Apple Watch is splash and water resistant but not waterproof. You can, for example, wear and use Apple Watch during exercise, in the rain, and while washing your hands, but submerging Apple Watch is not recommended. Apple Watch has a water resistance rating of IPX7 under IEC standard 60529. The leather bands are not water resistant.

So this statement says two different things.

Regardless I will swim with the watch within the first 30 or 14 days and if it gets water damage then back it will go and Apple would be responsible for replacing it. I swim a lot so I will probably just return it and head to pebble.

My point is if you give it a IPX7 rating then own it. :eek:
Go ahead, you do that. Apple with look at you like you're an idiot, then charge you for a replacement. It is not water proof.

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Who says it has water sensors?

It will, trust me.
 
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