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I am going to swim with my Apple Watch!!!

As I've mentioned several times in the last few days, extra arm pressure from swimming is negligible. That being said, if the Watch can go 30 minutes at 1m, maybe it can go to lower depths for less time. I'll definitely shower in it, and I may swim in a pool with it. I'm not worried about it. YMMV. There's always one of those waterproof Watch cases, if you're interested. http://www.igeeksblog.com/lunatik-epik-apple-watch-waterproof-case-03032015/

I thought I read somewhere yesterday that Tim Cook told people at Monday's event that you'd be fine swimming in it, but I can't find the link.
 
Wow. Let's use some Common Sense here. Just do what Apple says in the fine print. If you jump in the water and swim around and ruin your new Watch, you need to take responsibility for that! :)
 
There is ZERO technical reason why they couldn't have made it 'waterproof'. They're going to add it in a future model just like the Apple we know. :rolleyes:
 
Mr. Buzzcut said:
And you just slither into the pool? I'm trying to understand. How do you get in and start swimming without ever going deeper than 1m? I get that once you are in your stroke but I'm having trouble with the before and after.
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Can't you just climb down the ladder, or slide into the pool? What's with the assumption that you have to dive to get into a pool?
 
Night Spring said:
Can't you just climb down the ladder, or slide into the pool? What's with the assumption that you have to dive to get into a pool?
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I guess if you're all deliberate about it all in an effort to protect your watch. It just sounds ridiculous. I can step off a ladder and bob down briefly during which my wrist is easily more than a meter deep.

Products like this work when they get out of your way and let you do what you need to do. If you are behaving in a way that suits the product I think you're just trying to hammer the square peg in the round hole.
 
Mr. Buzzcut said:
I guess if you're all deliberate about it all in an effort to protect your watch. It just sounds ridiculous. I can step off a ladder and bob down briefly during which my wrist is easily more than a meter deep.

Products like this work when they get out of your way and let you do what you need to do. If you are behaving in a way that suits the product I think you're just trying to hammer the square peg in the round hole.
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JayLenochiniMac said:
What a pain! Not to mention being preoccupied with the time so as not to go over the 30 min limit.

Might as well not wear the Watch.
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Not that I ever plan to swim with the watch myself, but it just seems odd that it would take deliberate care to keep the watch above 1 meter while swimming.

I think if I stand up straight in the water with the water up to my neck, my wrist will be just about 1 meter below surface. So, no need to take much care, unless I decide to sit on the bottom of the pool or something.
 
The reason for this thread was to point out that Apple is saying 2 things. They give it a rating that in can be submerged and then they say you probably shouldn't.

I have been waiting for this watch for while and not buying several others that are out there. I wanted it for all activities running and swimming etc. so my many focus was water resistance.

I have too must stock in apple so I am not looking work them over on a warranty issue, so with that said i don't know how they can ever turn down a water claim because all they have to say is i was in the shower or washed my hands and that caused the water damage.

So I will try pebble and wait for watch #2.
 
Night Spring said:
Not that I ever plan to swim with the watch myself, but it just seems odd that it would take deliberate care to keep the watch above 1 meter while swimming.

I think if I stand up straight in the water with the water up to my neck, my wrist will be just about 1 meter below surface. So, no need to take much care, unless I decide to sit on the bottom of the pool or something.
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You must be short then. Try being over 6 ft ;)
 
Aces2412 said:
The reason for this thread was to point out that Apple is saying 2 things. They give it a rating that in can be submerged and then they say you probably shouldn't.

I have been waiting for this watch for while and not buying several others that are out there. I wanted it for all activities running and swimming etc. so my many focus was water resistance.

I have too must stock in apple so I am not looking work them over on a warranty issue, so with that said i don't know how they can ever turn down a water claim because all they have to say is i was in the shower or washed my hands and that caused the water damage.

So I will try pebble and wait for watch #2.
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People doing this will make your stock go up :rolleyes:
 
Aces2412 said:
The reason for this thread was to point out that Apple is saying 2 things. They give it a rating that in can be submerged and then they say you probably shouldn't.
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I think you are misunderstanding the actual rating. The rating, I believe, is really about accidental submersion. It really is not meant to say that you can purposely submerge it for an extended period of time. As was pointed out earlier, many other device manufacturers do not recommend swimming with an IPX7 device.
 
hemolyzer said:
I look forward to your follow up thread, "corrupt Apple Store Genius won't give me a new Watch because some water got on it".
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So this will make for some interesting returns.

You are washing your hands it gets a little wet from splashing, then it fails to work, go back to store they check and say fine and replace.

You leave it by mistake, submerge it in the water while swimming. Take it back say it got splashed while washing your hands and didn't come on. Now how would they tell the difference?

I think obviously they must have a spot way inside that will turn red if wet, and only way it can get wet that far inside is if it's submerged for say over a few minutes.

Otherwise returns will be difficult to judge, I'm sure they will know.
 
Aces2412 said:
I am a little frustrated about the misinformation about the water resistance. Apple gives it a rating allowing it to go underwater 1 meter for no more than 30 mins. But they say you can get it wet in the shower or rain but I would not submerge it. What?

**Apple Watch is splash and water resistant but not waterproof. You can, for example, wear and use Apple Watch during exercise, in the rain, and while washing your hands, but submerging Apple Watch is not recommended. Apple Watch has a water resistance rating of IPX7 under IEC standard 60529. The leather bands are not water resistant.

So this statement says two different things.

Regardless I will swim with the watch within the first 30 or 14 days and if it gets water damage then back it will go and Apple would be responsible for replacing it. I swim a lot so I will probably just return it and head to pebble.

My point is if you give it a IPX7 rating then own it. :eek:
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Brilliant idea.
I would recommend you buy the Apple Watch Edition for that purpose.
 
  • Water Resistant = subjective term
  • Water Proof = subjective term
  • IP Rating = Absolute minimum requirements
  • :apple:Watch yearly sales = (could easily be) 10,000,000 or more

Apple must be conservative on the rating and even MORE on the discerption because of the absolute numbers of :apple:Watches it will sale. The :apple:Watch is almost certainly be designed well beyond an IPx7 rating because Apple MUST be conservative (see number sold). It is highly unlikely that anyone here will experience water ingress to transducer failure (likely the weakest spot) unless diving.
 
JFazYankees said:
Go ahead, you do that. Apple with look at you like you're an idiot, then charge you for a replacement. It is not water proof.

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It will, trust me.
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It's a tricky one, to say something is not water proof but water resistant.

The Apple watch has to be able to stand 1m deep in water for half a hour.
So It's water proof for that length of time and depth.
It's also resisting water :)

One could say our skin is not water proof I suppose, only water resistant for a length of time.

That withstanding, Apple can't say, you can't do something with it, that their rating says you can.
It would be interesting in a court room, if someone tells apple their watch was in water, say 1 foot deep for 5 mins and it broke and they refused to replace it, how the courts would judge it.

I suspect against Apple.
 
Stop thinking water depth and think pressure. The Apple watch like every other watch can resist a certain amount of pressure.

Thats why they say washing your hands, rain, shower, accidental drop in water should be fine. While swimming even though the Apple watch will be within 1 mt the pressure increases as you hit the water surface, the harder/faster you hit the water the more pressure is applied. A high pressure water hose blasting water on your Apple watch will most likely be worse for the Apple watch even though its NOT under water. Once you understand the rating given to this watch you will understand its not made for swimming.
 
Piggie said:
It's a tricky one, to say something is not water proof but water resistant.

The Apple watch has to be able to stand 1m deep in water for half a hour.
So It's water proof for that length of time and depth.
It's also resisting water :)

One could say our skin is not water proof I suppose, only water resistant for a length of time.

That withstanding, Apple can't say, you can't do something with it, that their rating says you can.
It would be interesting in a court room, if someone tells apple their watch was in water, say 1 foot deep for 5 mins and it broke and they refused to replace it, how the courts would judge it.

I suspect against Apple.
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If apple could prove that the watch is water resistant at 1 meter for 30 mins, I think then the customer would somehow have to prove how the watch broke. Remember the courts do take into account that sometimes people lie. :eek:
 
I wouldn't swim with it. It'll likely be fine while its new and in warranty, but watch seals age and deteriorate. One day your swimming along just fine, next day your watch is full of water. :(

Most traditional watch manufacturers recommend replacing seals every 2-3 years. (Are the seals in the Apple watch even replaceable?)

I learned all this the hard way with an expensive mechanical watch. I now have a cheap quartz "diving" watch for the beach/pool. It's been going strong for over 10 years (I kind-of wish it would die a watery death so I can change it!). Life's a lot more fun if you don't have to worry about ruining expensive stuff.
 
ditzy said:
If apple could prove that the watch is water resistant at 1 meter for 30 mins, I think then the customer would somehow have to prove how the watch broke. Remember the courts do take into account that sometimes people lie. :eek:
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No offense but do you know how it sounds saying that Apple would go to court in order to deny a simple warranty claim. Apple has built an IPx7 waterproof watch. The percentage of water failures is probably going to be well under <.01%.

Refurbish/replacements probably costs Apple <$100. Much easier, less expensive and most important customer relations friendly just to swap it out and move along.

I bet there will not be a single warranty claim denied on the bases of water damage alone.
 
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