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After 7 years, Cook sells you a XR kind of phone with a XR grade camera sensor with $599, I am impressed. With the name "48MP Fusion camera", I thought Apple would at least sell the iPhone 14 camera sensor and all youtubers are promoting the camera is so good, my guessing was so wrong before I check it out.


How bad is 1/2.55? The latest Xiaomi 15 Ultra phone has 1 inch sensor, which is around 487% sensor size of 1/2.55

48MP photo is nothing. When you zoom in is just some "pattern" without any detail. 1/2.55 photo is not even clear without any zoom in.
 
Firstly the Xiaomi does not have a 1 inch sensor, it has a 1 inch TYPE sensor. Research better!

Secondly, I'm not going to trust indianexpress.com as any source of knowledge - the camera sensor is likely the same as the 14/15 without the sensor shift stabilisation, as you can see on the tear down video that was out the day after the phone was released. You can work that out by the aperture being f1.6 if it was a tiny sensor it wouldn't be that low. The camera is good, I've had the 15 Pro and have a 16e now - in anything but very low light the images are identical whether zoomed (pixel peeping) or regular viewing.

Do you think Apple just magically added megapixels to an old sensor? It doesn't work like that. At worst its the sensor from the 14/15, at best it's a variation of a completely new sensor they've been working on likely that will be seen on the iPhone Air releasing later this year and sits a lot thinner in the body of the device.
 
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by the way, iPhone XS was the first phone having 1/2.55 camera sensor, XR was released after like a month back in 2018
 
Firstly the Xiaomi does not have a 1 inch sensor, it has a 1 inch TYPE sensor. Research better!

Secondly, I'm not going to trust indianexpress.com as any source of knowledge - the camera sensor is the same as the 14/15 without the sensor shift stabilisation. You can work that out by the aperture being f1.6 if it was a tiny sensor it wouldn't be that low. The camera is good, I've had the 15 Pro and have a 16e now - in anything but very low light the images are identical whether zoomed (pixel peeping) or regular viewing.

Do you think Apple just magically added megapixels to an old sensor? It doesn't work like that. At worst its the sensor from the 14/15, at best it's a variation of a completely new sensor they've been working on likely that will be seen on the iPhone Air releasing later this year and sits a lot thinner in the body of the device.

Even having the model name: Sony IMX972 1/2.55"
 
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Even having the model name: Sony IMX972 1/2.55"

another "research" saying it is Sony IMX982, still 1/2.55"
 
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another "research" saying it is Sony IMX982, still 1/2.55"
There are reports of the 16e using a new sensor, until one of the trusted teardown people open it up, no one knows.

fyi... also posted a review that has image comparisons etc... the camera is great, end of.

Posted from another claim:
"The iPhone 16 and iPhone 16e do not have the same sensor size on the main camera. The iPhone 16 features a 48MP main camera with a sensor size of 1/1.56". On the other hand, the iPhone 16e also has a 48MP main camera, but with a slightly larger sensor size of 1/1.14"

iphone 16e main camera, in fact, and real world tested, seems superior to the iphone 16 main camera, head to head, shot for shot!
https://www.tomsguide.com/phones/ip...ugh-a-10-round-photo-shoot-out-and-im-shocked
 
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fyi... also posted a review that has image comparisons etc... the camera is great, end of.

The iPhone 16 and iPhone 16e do not have the same sensor size on the main camera. The iPhone 16 features a 48MP main camera with a sensor size of 1/1.56". On the other hand, the iPhone 16e also has a 48MP main camera, but with a slightly larger sensor size of 1/1.14"

iphone 16e main camera, in fact, and real world tested, seems superior to the iphone 16 main camera, head to head, shot for shot!
https://www.tomsguide.com/phones/ip...ugh-a-10-round-photo-shoot-out-and-im-shocked

1/1.14 sensor size is larger than 16 pro max, you believe that kind of joke?
 
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fyi... also posted a review that has image comparisons etc... the camera is great, end of.

The iPhone 16 and iPhone 16e do not have the same sensor size on the main camera. The iPhone 16 features a 48MP main camera with a sensor size of 1/1.56". On the other hand, the iPhone 16e also has a 48MP main camera, but with a slightly larger sensor size of 1/1.14"

iphone 16e main camera, in fact, and real world tested, seems superior to the iphone 16 main camera, head to head, shot for shot!
https://www.tomsguide.com/phones/ip...ugh-a-10-round-photo-shoot-out-and-im-shocked

The wording that you posted does not exist in the link, stop posting fake info.
 
Based on the images I've seen and taken with my own eyes... yes.
I've got mine sitting next to me but haven't had time to do tons of testing. Any reputable links/sources comparing it to the 13's photos? Having a hard time giving up the size of my mini.
 
The camera sensor size of the iPhone 16e's main 48MP camera is reported to be 1/2.55 inches. This information aligns with various sources discussing the iPhone 16e’s specifications, particularly in comparison to other models like the iPhone 16, which uses a larger 1/1.56-inch sensor for its 48MP main camera. The 1/2.55-inch sensor size suggests a smaller sensor compared to the standard iPhone 16, which may impact light capture and image quality, particularly in low-light conditions. However, Apple’s official documentation does not explicitly confirm this exact size, instead focusing on the camera's capabilities like the 48MP Fusion system with a 2x Telephoto option. Given the consistency across multiple reports, 1/2.55 inches appears to be the widely accepted specification for the iPhone 16e’s main camera sensor.
 
Parts bin phone

Tim Cook special

Refurb 15 Pro (or new on a carrier deal) is a far better use of a similar amount of money
Which is why I can't find one here in the UK for love nor money. There's a few sites advertising refurb, nothing in "outstanding condition" and most advertising a battery health of " 80% or better "
I'm keeping my eye on the local market, Gumtree etc, for a private seller
 
Firstly the Xiaomi does not have a 1 inch sensor, it has a 1 inch TYPE sensor. Research better!

Secondly, I'm not going to trust indianexpress.com as any source of knowledge - the camera sensor is the same as the 14/15 without the sensor shift stabilisation. You can work that out by the aperture being f1.6 if it was a tiny sensor it wouldn't be that low. The camera is good, I've had the 15 Pro and have a 16e now - in anything but very low light the images are identical whether zoomed (pixel peeping) or regular viewing.

Do you think Apple just magically added megapixels to an old sensor? It doesn't work like that. At worst its the sensor from the 14/15, at best it's a variation of a completely new sensor they've been working on likely that will be seen on the iPhone Air releasing later this year and sits a lot thinner in the body of the device.

You better really do some research before posting anything next time

The Xiaomi 15 Ultra is reported to use a 1-inch type main sensor, often specified as the Sony IMX989 or a similar model in Xiaomi’s Ultra lineup. This matches the typical 13.2 mm × 8.8 mm dimensions. Compact cameras with 1-inch sensors, such as the Sony RX100 or Canon G7 X series, also use sensors with these same dimensions—13.2 mm × 8.8 mm—since they adhere to the same 1-inch type classification. There’s no evidence that compact cameras use a different definition of "1-inch" unless explicitly stated otherwise (e.g., a larger sensor mislabeled as 1-inch, which isn’t standard practice).
Now, calculating the areas:
  • Xiaomi 15 Ultra (1-inch type sensor): 13.2 mm × 8.8 mm = 116.16 mm²
  • Compact camera (1-inch type sensor): 13.2 mm × 8.8 mm = 116.16 mm²
The difference in sensor area is:
  • 116.16 mm² - 116.16 mm² = 0 mm²
So, there is no difference in sensor area between a 1-inch type sensor in a phone like the Xiaomi 15 Ultra and a 1-inch sensor in a compact camera, assuming both follow the standard 1-inch type specification (13.2 mm × 8.8 mm).
 
You better really do some research before posting anything next time

The Xiaomi 15 Ultra is reported to use a 1-inch type main sensor, often specified as the Sony IMX989 or a similar model in Xiaomi’s Ultra lineup. This matches the typical 13.2 mm × 8.8 mm dimensions. Compact cameras with 1-inch sensors, such as the Sony RX100 or Canon G7 X series, also use sensors with these same dimensions—13.2 mm × 8.8 mm—since they adhere to the same 1-inch type classification. There’s no evidence that compact cameras use a different definition of "1-inch" unless explicitly stated otherwise (e.g., a larger sensor mislabeled as 1-inch, which isn’t standard practice).
Now, calculating the areas:
  • Xiaomi 15 Ultra (1-inch type sensor): 13.2 mm × 8.8 mm = 116.16 mm²
  • Compact camera (1-inch type sensor): 13.2 mm × 8.8 mm = 116.16 mm²
The difference in sensor area is:
  • 116.16 mm² - 116.16 mm² = 0 mm²
So, there is no difference in sensor area between a 1-inch type sensor in a phone like the Xiaomi 15 Ultra and a 1-inch sensor in a compact camera, assuming both follow the standard 1-inch type specification (13.2 mm × 8.8 mm).

It’s not a one inch sensor, regardless of it being in a phone or a camera. FACT. I was merely correcting your statement if it being a one inch sensor and I pointed out to you it was a one inch TYPE sensor.

Out if interest, what phone do you have now?

And going back to the 16e sensor I literally posted side by side comparisons and review from a trusted source showing it bettering the Pixel 8a sensor which is 1/1.73″
 
It’s not a one inch sensor, regardless of it being in a phone or a camera. FACT. I was merely correcting your statement if it being a one inch sensor and I pointed out to you it was a one inch TYPE sensor.

Out if interest, what phone do you have now?

And going back to the 16e sensor I literally posted side by side comparisons and review from a trusted source showing it bettering the Pixel 8a sensor which is 1/1.73″

you mean just trust you bro? No evidence, no math, just faith? Did you see the calculation I posted?
 
you mean just trust you bro? No evidence, no math, just faith? Did you see the calculation I posted?
Have you even looked at the link I posted?!
Evidence being I have photos taken with my 15 Pro, and with the 16e - there's no difference.

And FYI... we are talking mm in dimenssion differences so its largely irrelevant!
 

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Have you even looked at the link I posted?!
Evidence being I have photos taken with my 15 Pro, and with the 16e - there's no difference.

And FYI... we are talking mm in dimenssion differences so its largely irrelevant!

I told you the link you posted doesn't include the wording you posted
 
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Here is an interesting analysis:
Some key quotes:

“Let me put it this way, the iPhone 16e's Single Camera is technically equivalent to the iPhone 12's Main Camera, it has the Same Sensor Size and Lens Design, it's just that the iPhone 16e has a 48MP Sensor instead of a 12MP Sensor, just more Megapixels”

“the iPhone 12 had a 12MP 1/2.55 Sensor with a 26mm f 1.6 Lens Design, the 16e literally mirrors this setup, but instead utilizes the iPhone 16 Pro's Ultrawide Sensor, which is a 48MP 1/2.55 Sensor, and that is remotely not the same as the iPhone 16's 48MP 1/1.56 Sensor”
 
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