iPhone 16e I am shocked! 16e "48MP Fusion camera" sensor size is same as iPhone XR back in 2018!

[BenGoren]

Yeah because the flagship xiaomi having a 470% larger main sensor means it’s 4.7x better than the midrange 16e. That’s definitely how all metrics work. Surely noise performance is better period, but come on now.

Eureka! You’re absolutely right!

That’s why what we have is failure to communicate.

Every phone camera that drugdoubles has goes to 11, which is one more than the 16e goes to.

(Actually, word on the street is that drugdoubles’s main phone camera actually goes to 12, but we’re still waiting on independent confirmation of that rumor.)

Cheers,

b&

 

[drugdoubles]

Yeah because the flagship xiaomi having a 470% larger main sensor means it’s 4.7x better than the midrange 16e. That’s definitely how all metrics work. Surely noise performance is better period, but come on now.

16e price is midrange, the other parts are low range especially the camera sensor, except the cpu.

 

[drugdoubles]

16e price is midrange, the other parts are low range especially the camera sensor, except the cpu.

You can argue the Apple logo is high range, yes I agree, that is what Apple mainly selling with 16e

 

[UpsideDownEclair]

16e price is midrange, the other parts are low range especially the camera sensor, except the cpu.

Can you link us to Apple’s internal BOM you obtained that states this “fact”? We just don’t know that. It ain’t a SE. This is also the first time Apple’s directly funding its modem efforts because C1.

 

[drugdoubles]

Can you link us to Apple’s internal BOM you obtained that states this “fact”? We just don’t know that. It ain’t a SE. This is also the first time Apple’s directly funding its modem efforts because C1.

C1 is a testing thing and Apple gives up using more expensive stable one, good luck with it. Here is a whole thread showing you the camera sensor size and quality is something from 2018. Its 60hz refresh rate doesn’t even exist in a lot of $100 Android phone. When was the last iPhone having no MagSafe? SE right? Then put back the SE name on it, call it SE4, don’t pretend to be in iPhone 16 series, and price it $499 instead of $650 with tax.

 

[UpsideDownEclair]

C1 is a testing thing and Apple gives up using more expensive stable one, good luck with it. Here is a whole thread showing you the camera sensor size and quality is something from 2018. Its 60hz refresh rate doesn’t even exist in a lot of $100 Android phone. When was the last iPhone having no MagSafe? SE right? Then put back the SE name on it, call it SE4, don’t pretend to be in iPhone 16 series, and price it $499 instead of $650 with tax.

The same “beta testing thing” that holds onto signals comparably to Qualcomm models, and is marginally slower in speed tests that don’t necessarily reflect real world usage (like loading pages in Safari, where rendering speeds definitely matter)? Again it’s a phone for people who simply need A Phone. Obviously it’s being differentiated from the regular 16, as nonsensical as no MagSafe might be, but you comparing it to year old flagship offerings because Big Number Good, with zero awareness of nuance whatsoever, is frankly just embarrassing now.
See you on the Wasteland subforum in a few weeks.

 

[BenGoren]

C1 is a testing thing and Apple gives up using more expensive stable one, good luck with it.

Sorry, you just lost literally everybody with that whopper.

I’m typing this on a first-generation M1 MacBook Air. You might remember that Apple released the M1 first in the “low-end” laptops … and they totally mopped the floor with everything but the most ludicrously expensive Intel offerings of the time.

I distinctly remember in a statistics programming class I was in the next semester after I bought the M1 … the professor had some high-end new Windows laptop. He demonstrated some Python code that took over two minutes to run. My lowly M1 ran the same code in like fifteen seconds. The M1’s reputation by then was already firmly established; nobody was particularly surprised, though they were still quite impressed.

Your next mission, should you choose to accept it, is to tell us that up is down; that water ain’t wet; and that foreign companies eat 100% of the cost of American import duties without even the slightest hint of inflationary pressure for domestic consumers.

Cheers,

b&

 

[drugdoubles]

The same “beta testing thing” that holds onto signals comparably to Qualcomm models, and is marginally slower in speed tests that don’t necessarily reflect real world usage (like loading pages in Safari, where rendering speeds definitely matter)? Again it’s a phone for people who simply need A Phone. Obviously it’s being differentiated from the regular 16, as nonsensical as no MagSafe might be, but you comparing it to year old flagship offerings because Big Number Good, with zero awareness of nuance whatsoever, is frankly just embarrassing now.
See you on the Wasteland subforum in a few weeks.

That is just a simple few times test, who knows the stability in long term and how it reacts with different network equipment when you go out. Don’t even surprise suddenly it has no signal, not stable signal, overheat, whatever.

 

[drugdoubles]

Sorry, you just lost literally everybody with that whopper.

I’m typing this on a first-generation M1 MacBook Air. You might remember that Apple released the M1 first in the “low-end” laptops … and they totally mopped the floor with everything but the most ludicrously expensive Intel offerings of the time.

I distinctly remember in a statistics programming class I was in the next semester after I bought the M1 … the professor had some high-end new Windows laptop. He demonstrated some Python code that took over two minutes to run. My lowly M1 ran the same code in like fifteen seconds. The M1’s reputation by then was already firmly established; nobody was particularly surprised, though they were still quite impressed.

Your next mission, should you choose to accept it, is to tell us that up is down; that water ain’t wet; and that foreign companies eat 100% of the cost of American import duties without even the slightest hint of inflationary pressure for domestic consumers.

Cheers,

b&

I just know Apple Vision is like their biggest invested project and it is a total fault thing

 

[drugdoubles]

Sorry, you just lost literally everybody with that whopper.

I’m typing this on a first-generation M1 MacBook Air. You might remember that Apple released the M1 first in the “low-end” laptops … and they totally mopped the floor with everything but the most ludicrously expensive Intel offerings of the time.

I distinctly remember in a statistics programming class I was in the next semester after I bought the M1 … the professor had some high-end new Windows laptop. He demonstrated some Python code that took over two minutes to run. My lowly M1 ran the same code in like fifteen seconds. The M1’s reputation by then was already firmly established; nobody was particularly surprised, though they were still quite impressed.

Your next mission, should you choose to accept it, is to tell us that up is down; that water ain’t wet; and that foreign companies eat 100% of the cost of American import duties without even the slightest hint of inflationary pressure for domestic consumers.

Cheers,

b&

Mac cannot connect to Nvidia gpu and that is what AI is about. Can your M1 run any AI model in a reasonable speed? AI is the future, but Apple chip cannot do much about it. Windows with Nvidia gpu is so many times better than M chips. We all need AI, not running a simple python program that based on cpu.

 

[BenGoren]

Mac cannot connect to Nvidia gpu and that is what AI is about. Can your M1 run any AI model in a reasonable speed? AI is the future, but Apple chip cannot do much about it. Windows with Nvidia gpu is so many times better than M chips. We all need AI, not running a simple python program that based on cpu.

Squeeze me?

How did we get from the (in)significance of camera phone sensor size to … the fact that Apple isn’t trying to build datacenter-scale GPU compute operations?

You were dismissing Apple’s new modem as worthless because it’s a new chip. Apple’s next-most-recent new chip was the most transformative event in personal computing since the days of the 80186 and the 68000.

Does the minuscule-but-still-bigger-than-the-16e camera sensor on your Android phone let you run AI models faster than my years-old M1 Macbook?

Does Apple’s new modem have a positive or negative influence on the price of tea in China?

b&

 

[drugdoubles]

Squeeze me?

How did we get from the (in)significance of camera phone sensor size to … the fact that Apple isn’t trying to build datacenter-scale GPU compute operations?

You were dismissing Apple’s new modem as worthless because it’s a new chip. Apple’s next-most-recent new chip was the most transformative event in personal computing since the days of the 80186 and the 68000.

Does the minuscule-but-still-bigger-than-the-16e camera sensor on your Android phone let you run AI models faster than my years-old M1 Macbook?

Does Apple’s new modem have a positive or negative influence on the price of tea in China?

b&

You brought up the M1 on this thread, not me. Even M1 had a lot of compatible problems when it launched, and it took Apple years to improve it.

C1 is totally another story, it needs to interact with other network equipments. Other network equipments had never been tested with C1, M1 didn’t need to keep intact with other hardwares.

Even buying the cheapest phone like $60 android phone would expect the network connection is stable.

 

[RRC]

OP almost every statement you make is incorrect and not based on any factual information. You don’t answer questions, you just reword the same incorrect information.

Next you’ll be telling us how to contact Norton for a refund and share their contact number

 

[drugdoubles]

OP almost every statement you make is incorrect and not based on any factual information. You don’t answer questions, you just reword the same incorrect information.

Next you’ll be telling us how to contact Norton for a refund and share their contact number

I have provided table showing how much other phone camera sensors are bigger than 16e, very objective and pure physics. I can feel your pure love for Apple.

 

[RRC]

I have provided table showing how much other phone camera sensors are bigger than 16e, very objective and pure physics. I can feel your pure love for Apple.

You’ve provided nothing that reflects real world usage.

I can feel your hatred for Apple or anyone who spends their own money on what you deem incorrect.

 

[drugdoubles]

You’ve provided nothing that reflects real world usage.

I can feel your hatred for Apple or anyone who specs their own money on what you deem incorrect.

Same company, photo AI hasn’t improved much after iPhone 11, you think about it.

 

[drugdoubles]

You’ve provided nothing that reflects real world usage.

I can feel your hatred for Apple or anyone who specs their own money on what you deem incorrect.

I am using a pro phone to reply you

 

[James6s]

That is just a simple few times test, who knows the stability in long term and how it reacts with different network equipment when you go out. Don’t even surprise suddenly it has no signal, not stable signal, overheat, whatever.

I’ve found the C1 modem to be reliable when out and about with strong mobile 4/5g signal with very little effect on battery life. Far more efficient than previous iPhones. Not once has the device got warm in any situation.

Your comments are based on no real world use. I have a 16e in my hand and none of what you’re saying is an issue from the camera sensor to the modem.

 

[geta]

I have provided table showing how much other phone camera sensors are bigger than 16e, very objective and pure physics. I can feel your pure love for Apple.

Can you provide a side by side pictures between one of these old iPhones and a 16e to prove that their picture quality are the same?

Because so far you sound like someone with zero experience with 16e…

 

[drugdoubles]

I’ve found the C1 modem to be reliable when out and about with strong mobile 4/5g signal with very little effect on battery life. Far more efficient than previous iPhones. Not once has the device got warm in any situation.

Your comments are based on no real world use. I have a 16e in my hand and none of what you’re saying is an issue from the camera sensor to the modem.

It gives up speed to exchange battery usage, you know it right?

Flossy carter spoke on this, here it is.

The first picture is the 16e.

Second picture is a 15 pro max

Here are photos

 

[Weaselboy]

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