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ok, so your posted some random wording. Your link has some "marketing" photos, ok.
My link has no marketing photos, its a comparison. Tom's Guide is more trusted than the links you posted at least. Plus I'll post it again... literally the same size sensor less sensor shift stabilisation.
 

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My link has no marketing photos, its a comparison. Tom's Guide is more trusted than the links you posted at least. Plus I'll post it again... literally the same size sensor.

The sensor is inside, your photo shows nothing
 
My link has no marketing photos, its a comparison. Tom's Guide is more trusted than the links you posted at least. Plus I'll post it again... literally the same size sensor.

The 48MP snapper may sound the same, on paper, as the main one on the iPhone 16, but it has a smaller 1/2.55-inch sensor to the 16's 1/1.56-inch imager.
You think gsmarena would post this without 100% confirm?
 
This is a typical "worrying about the specs" over the real-world execution.

From the reviews I've seen, the 16e's camera is completely fine. While it's not going to beat a flagship handset, it's performing fine against similarly priced handsets.

the similar price handsets over here is S25+, are you sure their camera performance are similar, LOL.
 
I think it's fair to be upset about camera specs on par with a 6 year old device (XR)

I mean, how low do we need to set the bar of "acceptable" for Apple?
They aren't exactly charging bargain bin pricing here...
There was a link to an article comparing the 16e to the 16, and it seems pretty close.

Who cares about specs when the real-world results are what matters...?
 
After 7 years, Cook sells you a XR kind of phone with a XR grade camera sensor with $599, I am impressed. With the name "48MP Fusion camera", I thought Apple would at least sell the iPhone 14 camera sensor and all youtubers are promoting the camera is so good, my guessing was so wrong before I check it out.


How bad is 1/2.55? The latest Xiaomi 15 Ultra phone has 1 inch sensor, which is around 487% sensor size of 1/2.55

48MP photo is nothing. When you zoom in is just some "pattern" without any detail. 1/2.55 photo is not even clear without any zoom in.
But does the Xiaomi run iOS? Can I edit my images using Pixelmator? Once I've done that can I continue my game of Assassin's Creed Mirage? Or even Trism?

We could pull up any old spec out of thin air and use it for comparisons. But a smartphone remains the sum of its parts. Next thing will be people saying Apple used 0.5mm machine screws to hold the 16e together when Oppo uses 0.4 or some other wacky statistic.

There seems to be an unholy amount of hate towards a handset that most people have no plan to buy and I can't for the life of my understand why. Did people expect a $400 iPhone 16? You know who buys these phones? Businesses on bulk purchases, users on a 5-6 year upgrade cycle who just want a new iPhone and your teenage child.

If you're that bothered about sensor size and image quality I'd question what you're even doing using a phone to take pictures in the first place. For the price of the X15 Ultra you could buy a 16e to handle your telephony and buy a Canon 450d and a suitable telephoto lens for the money saved.
 
the similar price handsets over here is S25+, are you sure their camera performance are similar, LOL.
Well the 16e is about £30/m vs the S25+ at £44/m (both including airtime contracts) here, so no I'd not be comparing both of these phones based on prices. Closest priced Samsung device is an S24 FE.
 
This is a typical "worrying about the specs" over the real-world execution.

From the reviews I've seen, the 16e's camera is completely fine. While it's not going to beat a flagship handset, it's performing fine against similarly priced handsets.

S25 sensor size is S25 Plus sensor area is 2.68 times of 16e. Their latest flagships show their camera AI level is very similar and Apple definitely would not apply their latest camera AI in 16e, 16e doesn't have sensor-shift optical image stabilization, how can 16e camera outcome could be comparable with S25 Plus?
 
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Exactly... if the camera is THE most important part, buy an actual camera! No smartphone will ever better a dedicated large sensor and high quality glass.

I am not interested in bring a big heavy camera to travel and big heavy camera requires skin to take a reasonable looking photo. Phone flagship grade photos look great for people that don't know how to use professional camera
 
S25 sensor size is S25 Plus sensor area is 2.68 times of 16e. Their latest flagships show their camera AI level is very similar and Apple definitely would not apply their latest camera AI in 16e, 16e doesn't have sensor-shift optical image stabilization, how can 16e camera outcome could be comparable with S25 Plus?
Who cares? The 16e can take good photos in the real world, that is objectively true and indisputable, look at the reviews and the photos coming off it.

The phone isn't somehow magically or technically limited just because a spec sheet said so. Like with a lot of things in life, it's how you use it that usually dictates how good or bad something is.
 
All these stats/specs/sizes don't matter. It's the cost that matters. Is it annoying they're using a sensor that's similar to one created 6-7 years ago? Sure. But if the software can help the results be solid - significantly better than an iPhone Xr or iPhone 12 - and it also allowed Apple to cut the overall cost back (albeit it's still a little pricy IMO), why does it really matter?

If the underlying specs are so important to you, that's completely fine and your prerogative - and that means the 16e likely isn't for you.
 
I am not interested in bring a big heavy camera to travel and big heavy camera requires skin to take a reasonable looking photo. Phone flagship grade photos look great for people that don't know how to use professional camera
I use professional cameras for my hobby (photography). My iPhone 15 Pro Max can (in some circumstances) take better pictures than my DSLR.

Again: it's how you use the tool that matters the most.
 
Who cares? The 16e can take good photos in the real world, that is objectively true and indisputable, look at the reviews and the photos coming off it.

The phone isn't somehow magically or technically limited just because a spec sheet said so. Like with a lot of things in life, it's how you use it that usually dictates how good or bad something is.

professional marketing team can take good photo even with 6s, but you cannot have the same result. "reviews", "photos in reviews" are all just marketing
 
I'll file this thread along the jelly scroll, iPhone color "just put a case on it", 60hz screen, iPad mini is overprice, iPhone should only come in 3.5 in since there's sizable number of people who only use their smartphones for texting and calling.
 
On an unrelated note, this reminds me of when the iPhone XR came out a while back. The Internet was outraged about how Apple would release a 720p LCD display. But when it came to the real world, it performed just fine.

In the video, every single person viewed the iPhone screen as better over a 1080p display.

Here's that great video:
 
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how about if you zoom in and see the detail?
Yeah that's where megapixels matter. Considering my iPhone 15 Pro Max is 48mp vs my 24mp Canon, the iPhone definitely has better detail retention when I zoom in. Does that fit your narrative or... am I wrong?

professional marketing team can take good photo even with 6s, but you cannot have the same result. "reviews", "photos in reviews" are all just marketing
Again, people that know how to use the tools will use them more effectively. Who knew?!

What matters more is comparisons to other models in the same conditions, that's a fair playing field that a lot of reviewers will follow. The iPhone 16e holds up just fine.
 
Yeah that's where megapixels matter. Considering my iPhone 15 Pro Max is 48mp vs my 24mp Canon, the iPhone definitely has better detail retention when I zoom in. Does that fit your narrative or... am I wrong?


Again, people that know how to use the tools will use them more effectively. Who knew?!

What matters more is comparisons to other models in the same conditions, that's a fair playing field that a lot of reviewers will follow. The iPhone 16e holds up just fine.

24mp with a much bigger sensor like full frame or APS-C should have more detail than latest iphone pro with much smaller sensor if we zoom in, that is what I expected ha ha full frame or APS-C just needs so much skill and so heavy
 
24mp with a much bigger sensor like full frame or APS-C should have more detail than latest iphone pro with much smaller sensor if we zoom in, that is what I expected ha ha full frame or APS-C just needs so much skill and so heavy
That is absolute nonsense. Megapixels is a measurement of the number of pixels, and has absolutely nothing to do with the size of the pixels.

The only time the size of the pixels matter at the time of photon capture. Bigger pixels mean they're better at capturing light, so will perform better when there's less light. However, once the sensor data is written to an image file, every pixel is treated equally.
 
I'm sure people won't notice but the thing I don't like about it is someone upgrading from an older model such as the 15 thinking they're going to get the new 16 camera and actually downgrading their camera without realizing.
 
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