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the sensor doesn't even have sensor-shift optical image stabilization
I am so shocked, what are they actually selling with $599!? LOL
Well don't buy it then! LOL!
 
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Well, I just traded my iPhone 13 Pro Max in for a iPhone 16e and I can tell you first hand, the camera is great, better than my 13 Pro Max and as far as we can tell, just as good as my wife's 15 Pro Max.

Real life experience beats technical specifications every time.😊

Exactly! Real life tests show the 16e camera performs very well indeed (as expected)

Interesting you went from the 13 Pro Max to the 16e, how you finding the change?
 
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I mean, you're talking about a phone with a true 5x optical zoom vs. a phone with a lesser sensor that has 2x "optical-quality" (i.e. decent-but-not-real-optical) zoom. 🤷‍♂️

For anybody that wants to see where those photos came from:


Flossy carter honest review is the best I have seen so far, especially you are parents buying phone for your kids ha ha

If you don’t agree with my opinions, let me know why you think Flossy carter is totally wrong too.
 
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Flossy carter honest review is the best I have seen so far, especially you are parents buying phone for your kids ha ha

If you don’t agree with my opinions, let me know why you think Flossy carter is totally wrong too.

I never said he was totally wrong, I was just saying his zoom test was silly and irrelevant, comparing the 16e to the 15 Pro Max trying to read a small sign 30-40 yards away.

I also haven't disagreed with all of your opinions here.
 
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I never said he was totally wrong, I was just saying his zoom test was silly and irrelevant, comparing the 16e to the 15 Pro Max trying to read a small sign 30-40 yards away.

I also haven't disagreed with all of your opinions here.

I actually meaned If anyone over here doesn’t agree with my opinions, let me know why you think Flossy carter is totally wrong too.

Ha ha
 
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, we are all different & you can either agree or disagree but at the end of the day this is all subjective.
 
Flossy Carter isn't someone who is a reliable source, his channel is trash!
 
With the iPhone 16e’s sensor area set at 100% (47.7mm²), here’s how the others compare:
  • iPhone 16e:
    • Area: 47.7mm².
    • Percentage: 100%.
  • iPhone 14:
    • Area: 85.8mm².
    • Percentage: (85.8 ÷ 47.7) × 100 ≈ 180%.
    • Difference: 180% - 100% = 80% larger.
  • iPhone 13 Pro:
    • Area: 114.9mm².
    • Percentage: (114.9 ÷ 47.7) × 100 ≈ 241%.
    • Difference: 241% - 100% = 141% larger.
  • iPhone 16 Pro Max:
    • Area: 188.9mm².
    • Percentage: (188.9 ÷ 47.7) × 100 ≈ 396%.
    • Difference: 396% - 100% = 296% larger.
  • Vivo X200 Pro:
    • Area: 188.9mm².
    • Percentage: (188.9 ÷ 47.7) × 100 ≈ 396%.
    • Difference: 396% - 100% = 296% larger.
  • Xiaomi 15 Ultra:
    • Area: 271.9mm².
    • Percentage: (271.9 ÷ 47.7) × 100 ≈ 570%.
    • Difference: 570% - 100% = 470% larger.
 
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With the iPhone 16e’s sensor area set at 100% (47.7mm²), here’s how the others compare:
  • iPhone 16e:
    • Area: 47.7mm².
    • Percentage: 100%.
  • iPhone 14:
    • Area: 85.8mm².
    • Percentage: (85.8 ÷ 47.7) × 100 ≈ 180%.
    • Difference: 180% - 100% = 80% larger.
  • iPhone 13 Pro:
    • Area: 114.9mm².
    • Percentage: (114.9 ÷ 47.7) × 100 ≈ 241%.
    • Difference: 241% - 100% = 141% larger.
  • iPhone 16 Pro Max:
    • Area: 188.9mm².
    • Percentage: (188.9 ÷ 47.7) × 100 ≈ 396%.
    • Difference: 396% - 100% = 296% larger.
  • Vivo X200 Pro:
    • Area: 188.9mm².
    • Percentage: (188.9 ÷ 47.7) × 100 ≈ 396%.
    • Difference: 396% - 100% = 296% larger.
  • Xiaomi 15 Ultra:
    • Area: 271.9mm².
    • Percentage: (271.9 ÷ 47.7) × 100 ≈ 570%.
    • Difference: 570% - 100% = 470% larger.
Wow, the sensor size is very small, but despite that, the photos looks pretty good.
 
Flossy Carter isn't someone who is a reliable source, his channel is trash!
He is very entertaining and many of his reviews I agree with. He's much better than all of the usual suspects that are cringeworthy such as justine, supersaf, and all the rest.
 
If this phone is $499, having this 2018 XR grade camera is totally fine. But is is around $650 with tax
 
Dude, we get it. Don’t buy the phone.

He’s on a one man crusade to rid the world of the evil that is 16e

I’ll point out again, I’ve not seen one, not one person on these forums or others who have bought the phone to legitimately own and use themselves who doesn’t think it’s great.
 
He’s on a one man crusade to rid the world of the evil that is 16e

I’ll point out again, I’ve not seen one, not one person on these forums or others who have bought the phone to legitimately own and use themselves who doesn’t think it’s great.
Typing on my 16e 😃 It’s kind of funny now this one man crusade!

I’ve been using the camera loads as you’ve seen in the other thread, and regardless of the sensor size the camera has been great. None issue! Love the 16e 😊
 
Typing on my 16e It’s kind of funny now this one man crusade!

I’ve been using the camera loads as you’ve seen in the other thread, and regardless of the sensor size the camera has been great. None issue! Love the 16e

Agree, the camera is as good as anything anyone could ever need from a phone and your pictures look great
 
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Thanks man! I wonder how long this thread will keep running lol. Haters gonna hate

I could understand if they had bought the phone and it was terrible, but they’ve not bought it, not used it and is basing their whole argument on tech specs that are largely irrelevant.
 
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I could understand if they had bought the phone and it was terrible, but they’ve not bought it, not used it and is basing their whole argument on tech specs that are largely irrelevant.
Exactly. The proof is always in the pudding so to speak! Software is probably now the biggest factor in smartphone photography over hardware now.
 
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With the iPhone 16e’s sensor area set at 100% (47.7mm²), here’s how the others compare:
So?

I mean, really.

The cheapest DSLRs (or mirrorless equivalents) you can get from the major manufacturers have (roughly) 16mm x 24mm sensors, which works to an area of 384mm². All the high-end prosumer and flagship models from those companies have 24mm x 36mm = 846mm² sensors. IMAX is 70mm x 49mm = 3430mm². The Hubble Telescope’s sensor is 4,000,000mm², and the GTC’s is 79,000,000mm².

So?

You’re clearly obsessed with the size of your equipment. We can tell that.

Nobody — and I do mean nobody — else cares how big your equipment is.

They care about whether or not their new iPhone takes pretty pictures of the sunset at the beach, or cool selfies with friends at the mall, or if does a decent job scanning a random tax form for their accountant.

Nobody’s doing the movie trope “Enhance!” thing with too-small-to-see street signs half a mile away. At most they might want to do an “extreme” crop to pick out a bird flying overhead, and they’re not going to be even remotely shocked (let alone care) when it’s rather blurry.

And nobody’s making billboard-sized art gallery quality prints from their phones. At absolute most they might make an 8x10 of something from a particularly special occasion that happened to turn out well. Otherwise, it’s a small stack of 4x6 prints to send to the grandparents, or a Christmas card photo montage, or a coffee mug … that sort of thing. Nearly all the photos that actually get viewed get viewed on other phones, and the overwhelming majority of the rest get viewed on a Web page.

You could do yourself a real favor by actually enjoying more quality time with your own extra-large equipment and less time here trying to convince everybody else about how important that is that your super-gigantically huge equipment is so much bigger in comparison to everybody else’s pathetically tiny equipment.

Cheers,

b&
 
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With the iPhone 16e’s sensor area set at 100% (47.7mm²), here’s how the others compare:
  • iPhone 16e:
    • Area: 47.7mm².
    • Percentage: 100%.
  • iPhone 14:
    • Area: 85.8mm².
    • Percentage: (85.8 ÷ 47.7) × 100 ≈ 180%.
    • Difference: 180% - 100% = 80% larger.
  • iPhone 13 Pro:
    • Area: 114.9mm².
    • Percentage: (114.9 ÷ 47.7) × 100 ≈ 241%.
    • Difference: 241% - 100% = 141% larger.
  • iPhone 16 Pro Max:
    • Area: 188.9mm².
    • Percentage: (188.9 ÷ 47.7) × 100 ≈ 396%.
    • Difference: 396% - 100% = 296% larger.
  • Vivo X200 Pro:
    • Area: 188.9mm².
    • Percentage: (188.9 ÷ 47.7) × 100 ≈ 396%.
    • Difference: 396% - 100% = 296% larger.
  • Xiaomi 15 Ultra:
    • Area: 271.9mm².
    • Percentage: (271.9 ÷ 47.7) × 100 ≈ 570%.
    • Difference: 570% - 100% = 470% larger.
Yeah because the flagship xiaomi having a 470% larger main sensor means it’s 4.7x better than the midrange 16e. That’s definitely how all metrics work. Surely noise performance is better period, but come on now.
 
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