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Yes I thought this forum was for discussing positives and negatives. Don't understand why it so offensive to some to have competing products discussed here.

Isn't that the entire point of a "forum" to begin with?
 
One of the strongest things about iOS is its ecosystem. iTunes completes the whole user experience, so in my eyes it is very important to Apple. I also like it very much.
 
I very dependent on iTunes for my media, I have no problems with this either, for me, iTunes does a great job for music, videos and apps. For me iTunes is a plus.

Agreed, I really like iTunes. The ecosystem and the seamless integration between my iMac, MBP, & 2 iPhones is a huge plus to me. While the whole Apple ecosystem isn't perfect, for me the pros far outweigh the negatives.
 
Agreed, I really like iTunes. The ecosystem and the seamless integration between my iMac, MBP, & 2 iPhones is a huge plus to me. While the whole Apple ecosystem isn't perfect, for me the pros far outweigh the negatives.

Agreed, while I had (still do) a brief stint with android, I noticed a glaring issue. The ease and simplicity of how Mac/iTunes/iPhone integrate so well. Once my contract ends, I'll be upgrading to an iPhone again.
 
It does seem strange that some people can't seem to grasp the fact that others hate iTunes.
Enough to make them buy a tablet from someone else, specifically as it does not use iTunes.
 
It does seem strange that some people can't seem to grasp the fact that others hate iTunes.
Enough to make them buy a tablet from someone else, specifically as it does not use iTunes.

I would go as far and say that some people don't like iOS, apple and apple products and specifically choose products that are not apple
 
I would go as far and say that some people don't like iOS, apple and apple products and specifically choose products that are not apple

You may be right for some, but I have also heard people say they would love this of that, but just cannot stand iTunes.

Myself, I don't like the way your device is locked to one machine with iTunes. I think that's crazy that you can be at work and can't do things as you can only sync with your home PC or visa versa.

If iTunes did not exist and you told even Apple fans that, they would think that was a mad idea.

iTunes is way over complicated I think for what it does, how a beginner even starts to understand it I have no idea.
 
iTunes is way over complicated I think for what it does, how a beginner even starts to understand it I have no idea.
I don't know about that, how complicated is a single app that plays music/videos, and syncs your iPad overly complicated.

I do not consider a product that would confuse a beginner, and if that would confuse someone, then an android based device would just blow them away with its complexity (which it generally doesn't).
 
Apple continues to tighten control. I am a big Apple product user. Everyone in my family has an ios device. But this subscription policy just irks me and makes me wonder about future. I don't want to be locked into Apple forever but they continue to push down that road.

For the first time I am taking a serious look at Xoom. Honeycomb looks great. This is the first time I have looked away from ipad.

Let the fallout begin and the fanboys defend.

Like many here, I am concerned by what Apple is doing.

If they monopolize by exclusion, they are no better then Microsoft.

It should all be on the merits.
 
I don't know about that, how complicated is a single app that plays music/videos, and syncs your iPad overly complicated.

I do not consider a product that would confuse a beginner, and if that would confuse someone, then an android based device would just blow them away with its complexity (which it generally doesn't).

Perhaps it's that all I want is a Photo's a Music and a Video folder on my PC and just be able to drag and drop items between my folder and my tablet.

I don't want to be confronted by a shop trying to sell me things when all I want is to copy some MP3's to my tablet.
The we have the file system, or lack of, meaning I then have to go to another page, find my app on a scroll down list and copy items into that apps file area and do a sync to get things in.

I also of course cannot point iTunes to my main data collections as it would try and sync too much to my iDevice.

All I really want is to take a tablet, plug it into any computer, via a standard USB cable and drag/drop any files between the two items.
No more than that. Nice and simple.

I don't want to be presented with an advert for buying the Beatles, when I run my file transfer program.
 
Perhaps it's that all I want is a Photo's a Music and a Video folder on my PC and just be able to drag and drop items between my folder and my tablet.

I don't want to be confronted by a shop trying to sell me things when all I want is to copy some MP3's to my tablet.
The we have the file system, or lack of, meaning I then have to go to another page, find my app on a scroll down list and copy items into that apps file area and do a sync to get things in.

I also of course cannot point iTunes to my main data collections as it would try and sync too much to my iDevice.

All I really want is to take a tablet, plug it into any computer, via a standard USB cable and drag/drop any files between the two items.
No more than that. Nice and simple.

I don't want to be presented with an advert for buying the Beatles, when I run my file transfer program.

Your credibility drops even further when you spout this sort of nonsense. There's no "shop selling you things" or "adverts" involved in iTunes transfers (do you even own an iPad?). It's true that the Apple Store is accessible through iTunes, but it's only there when you access it. As for dragging and dropping content, I do it all the time with iTunes. You can transfer music, video and book files from any folder to your iPad without first transferring to iTunes. Yes, you need iTunes open to access the iPad, but that's all you need to do, open it.
 
You'll be surprised how many of us already had Netflix sub watching on our TVs before the iPad came out. So it's just an addition, another way to watch. We're not paying double. Lol.

And what's your definition of old, a few months -- it's not like they have movies just from the 40s and 50s.


+1 I had netflix long before I purchased an iPad. I love netflix for their huge selection of foreign films. Good luck finding them at redbox or the local video store(if we had one). Now my wife can lay in bed and watch a movie of her choice while I view on the tv or vice versa. Netflix is awesome!! I don't buy DVD's anymore and get to see all of the movies I want to. If I have to wait 30 days it isn't a big deal to me. Netflix saves me money by not buying DVD's. :)
 
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