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Not only the interface but performance some functionalities are also different.
Office Mac looks and feels more like Office 2003.
If you want to share media with windows users, like wmv's and wma's, i suggest downloading vlc. it works really well with hd and sd file formats
Hi guys,,
I hope everybody is fine. It is really nice to be here. I LOVE.
My problem is that I do not know that much about the laptops. I had a Toshiba and now I am thinking so so much of having a Mac Apple laptop.
BUT, the area I live in is very small and this laptop is not common here.
My friend made me feel worried.She said that I might not be able to share the clips and files with others because they are all Windows.
I still want to buy a Mac Apple Pro Laptop, but is this TRUE?
I mean will I find difficulty with others who have just Windows? OK!! and if they send me a Microsoft folder, will I be able to open it with the Mac word prepossess? How about the Music and the Videos, I want to share with friends?
Thank You so much,,
Please help me with this.
Welcome to the forum!
Don't worry about file compatibility; most files work on a Mac.
For example, MS offers a version of Office for the Mac OS.
Don't worry!
Habitus
Windows 7 is a serious contender as a superior operating system. Mac still has massive flaws in only running single instances of applications, Mac is also not as refined/streamlined as Windows - ie pressing ctrl and clicking the mouse button vs right clicking to bring up menus in windows. Mac is supposed to be more simple right? You've been mislead.
Mac is also playing catch up in running full 64bit kernel code for their OS while Windows has had it for years already. These are only a few things I've noticed.
That's not to say that the PC doesn't have flaws itself. Perfection is an illusion and it doesn't exist. For those that think that Mac is be all and end all, you're an ignorant POS who hides the fact you're also an incompetent windows user. <3
Right, good way to spread FUD.Windows 7 is a serious contender as a superior operating system. Mac still has massive flaws in only running single instances of applications, Mac is also not as refined/streamlined as Windows - ie pressing ctrl and clicking the mouse button vs right clicking to bring up menus in windows. Mac is supposed to be more simple right? You've been mislead.
Mac is also playing catch up in running full 64bit kernel code for their OS while Windows has had it for years already. These are only a few things I've noticed.
That's not to say that the PC doesn't have flaws itself. Perfection is an illusion and it doesn't exist. For those that think that Mac is be all and end all, you're an ignorant POS who hides the fact you're also an incompetent windows user. <3
The days of ctl-click are long over. Macs have been shipping with dual (or more) button mice for several years now, and the laptops support double finger clicking for contextual menus. Right click is just as easy as it is on Windows. So, in fact, you're the one that has been misled.
Windows has only really seen a true 64bit release with Windows 7, and even then it's a pain in the ass. OS X is 64bit on every disc, rather than having to work out which edition you bought.
As for Windows being better? Yeah, I spent four hours yesterday fighting with Windows 7's Bluetooth drivers. OS X took about a minute to accomplish the same task.
I'm not addressing any of the other stuff in your post, because it was pure opinion. Snide, immature opinion at that. Re Microsoft's supposed advantage in 64-Bit OSes: Shipping a product and shipping a product that people want to or can use are two different things. See also XP 64's adoption and Vista 64's driver issues.
I've used Windows seriously for many years, and I reckon that I'm just slightly on the right of the bell curve in terms of Windows. Vista was an unmitigated nightmare, and I'm glad to be rid of it. The experience with it spoiled me completely against investing in a future Microsoft OS product. My problem with the latest versions of Windows wasn't that I was uninformed as to how it ran, but that even with all of the regularly available information the operating system seemed to be fighting against me to let me work. As much as you may have wanted, or like to believe it was, Vista SP3 (aka 7) was not a magic eraser that solved all of the platform's problems.
The only important considerations in choosing an OS are determining if it meets your needs and if it works with you in a productive manner. These days almost any software can be made to work on almost any hardware, one way or another. And most tasks are available on all major platforms. The difference is in deciding what fits you. If you like OS X, then you'll be fine with it in terms of compatibility. This isn't 1989.
For those that think that Mac is be all and end all, you're an ignorant POS who hides the fact you're also an incompetent windows user. <3
I've used Windows seriously for many years, and I reckon that I'm just slightly on the right of the bell curve in terms of Windows. Vista was an unmitigated nightmare, and I'm glad to be rid of it. The experience with it spoiled me completely against investing in a future Microsoft OS product. My problem with the latest versions of Windows wasn't that I was uninformed as to how it ran, but that even with all of the regularly available information the operating system seemed to be fighting against me to let me work. As much as you may have wanted, or like to believe it was, Vista SP3 (aka 7) was not a magic eraser that solved all of the platform's problems.
The only important considerations in choosing an OS are determining if it meets your needs and if it works with you in a productive manner. These days almost any software can be made to work on almost any hardware, one way or another. And most tasks are available on all major platforms. The difference is in deciding what fits you. If you like OS X, then you'll be fine with it in terms of compatibility. This isn't 1989.
I was a PC user. Actually, I was an obnoxious, pro-PC, anti-mac user from way back in the day. I switched from my Apple IIe to a PC and never looked back.
I used Macs in college, but they were so silly and so incompatible they seemed useless.
In 2003, I switched to a mac that had an early OSX.
With very few reservations, I can say that you will be very satisfied if you choose to go with a mac. Compatibility for me was seamless. Microsoft upgraded their Office suite a few years back, and I had to download some stuff from Microsoft for my Office, but after that, perfect integration.
I had to download some software to open wordperfect documents, but I don't have wordperfect, so that's no big deal.
I'm sure that there are people on here who do all sorts of complicated work, and may require certain programs or continuity with PC versions of the same software, and you may run into some of those problems too. That being said, I love the hardware. I have had almost no problems for 7 years (and until recently, my 7 year old Powerbook was faster than far, far newer PCs).
Software might be an issue as others have posted. I can't blame Apple for Microsoft or some other company creating problems between office/other program on a mac vs. a PC.
I've never run into a problem I couldn't resolve easily, and I've NEVER needed to run a virtual PC or bootcamp or anything like that.
I used Macs in college, but they were so silly and so incompatible they seemed useless.
In 2003, I switched to a mac that had an early OSX.
With very few reservations, I can say that you will be very satisfied if you choose to go with a mac. Compatibility for me was seamless. Microsoft upgraded their Office suite a few years back, and I had to download some stuff from Microsoft for my Office, but after that, perfect integration.
I had to download some software to open wordperfect documents, but I don't have wordperfect, so that's no big deal.
I'm sure that there are people on here who do all sorts of complicated work, and may require certain programs or continuity with PC versions of the same software, and you may run into some of those problems too. That being said, I love the hardware. I have had almost no problems for 7 years (and until recently, my 7 year old Powerbook was faster than far, far newer PCs).
Software might be an issue as others have posted. I can't blame Apple for Microsoft or some other company creating problems between office/other program on a mac vs. a PC.
I've never run into a problem I couldn't resolve easily, and I've NEVER needed to run a virtual PC or bootcamp or anything like that.
@Raima
Does this ring any bell? Every single time I boot my Mac into windows, even 7, I get this f***ing cancel or allow messages! Does this make my an incompetent Windows user? I don't think so, does this mean Windows 7 sucks? Not just because of this but it is a big disadvantage that you won't have with OS X.
Does this ring any bell? Every single time I boot my Mac into windows, even 7, I get this f***ing cancel or allow messages! Does this make my an incompetent Windows user? I don't think so, does this mean Windows 7 sucks? Not just because of this but it is a big disadvantage that you won't have with OS X.
To the original poster
You have nothing to fear by taking the leap to the mac.
When you get it download Perian this will take care of all your video and audio decoding needs (divx's etc etc)
Download VLC a video player with a fairly clunky linuxy type interface..but robust enough to pretty much play any video file that perian can't.
Office for mac will do you just fine. So you need not worry..i can't think of a single instance where Office for Mac 2007 hasn't worked for me. It even saves (and reads) in the latest completely unecessary .docx formats.
Enjoy
Also can i just say i've laughed my constipation out on some of the pieces of crap in this thread! Seriously that guy who said you had to ctrl click for right clicking...i hope someone managed to inform him that President Bush (the first one) isn't still in power and that it's now 2010! What an anus.
You have nothing to fear by taking the leap to the mac.
When you get it download Perian this will take care of all your video and audio decoding needs (divx's etc etc)
Download VLC a video player with a fairly clunky linuxy type interface..but robust enough to pretty much play any video file that perian can't.
Office for mac will do you just fine. So you need not worry..i can't think of a single instance where Office for Mac 2007 hasn't worked for me. It even saves (and reads) in the latest completely unecessary .docx formats.
Enjoy
Also can i just say i've laughed my constipation out on some of the pieces of crap in this thread! Seriously that guy who said you had to ctrl click for right clicking...i hope someone managed to inform him that President Bush (the first one) isn't still in power and that it's now 2010! What an anus.
I'm on both sides of the camp. I don't care what people use to get the job done. What bothers me, regardless of what os u use are people who are down right ignorant, incompetent and show lack of respect for the other party. Keep your boy in check and there won't be so much resistance to mac when snide Windows remarks are made. If people want solutions to Windows problems they're facing, I'm more than happy to help.
XP 64 was the first desktop OS released by microsoft. Early days had slow adoption. Vista followed shortly after, but because of the number of changes in terms of drivers, it was initially an issue. As Vista matured past 1 year, drivers became less and less of an issue, yet users perceptions remained the same. Windows 7 built off Vista's maturity and has very little problems, it's quick and efficient, the way that Vista should of been.
And aren't .docx supposed to be smaller than .doc?
I'd say any new format which incorporates new features would generally be more bloated. It's just cause they have more instructions to translate to handle more sophisticated functions.
Just because Microsoft rushed a 64-Bit desktop OS out and was the first to do it doesn't mean they deserve accolades. I don't know whether XP 64 or SL has had a higher adoption rate, but they both had growing pains.
Probably because the 'solution' offered to a lot of driver problems was to buy new hardware. That's not a good solution. When I have to have a 64-Bit OS installation to run apps I cannot live without, and I cannot get 64-Bit drivers for devices that I need to use, I'm presented with a problem. Because some of my hardware couldn't be re-purchased, I had only one solution: run a second computer that's using a 32-Bit OS. That was added expense, difficulty, and heat. Luckily I didn't need to use the hardware with the software, or I would've been completely screwed. Either Microsoft is going to hang onto 20-year old software and hardware compatibility for dear life, or they're going to make an Operating System that brings Windows into 2002. They can't have both. If Vista had been a completely new OS that had actual architectural innovation, having to re-purchase new devices and software might've been justifiable. It wasn't. The solution to my Windows problems was to dump the platform.
Am I saying that a situation like this couldn't happen on OS X? Absolutely not. Apple could glitch up something I need with 10.6.3 and make me need to keep two systems running. But that so far hasn't happened to me. I suppose I'm lucky.
Vista earned its awful reputation, and deserves no apologies. It was not a good product, not purely on the mostly invisible technical failings alone. It was, and still is, unfortunate to have to use. With a proper HIPS and Firewall XP is no less secure, and is significantly less maddening to operate. 7 is only worthwhile and exciting if you can't flee the OS. Otherwise it's not compelling at all.
To the OP, ignore us nerds and go with the system that you work the best in
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The OP isn't reading any of this..... she's made a total of 3 posts, all on the 16th (which was the day she joined), and all in this thread, and she hasn't been back to this site since the 17th at 12:01am.
So..... you guys ain't givin' her advice....
The OP isn't reading any of this..... she's made a total of 3 posts, all on the 16th (which was the day she joined), and all in this thread, and she hasn't been back to this site since the 17th at 12:01am.
So..... you guys ain't givin' her advice....
Hi OP.
Sadly I have to say this in each forum but take Winni's posts with a grain of salt. He's an avid apple hater and does nothing but troll the boards spreading false information about apple.
Office 2008 for mac will open everything just fine. I've had a lot of papers with heavy formatting from school come in in the office 2007 and office 2003 versions and all have worked just fine, and when I send it back all the formatting stays in tact.
If you use Open office or iWork you will generally have no problems, but you may run into a formatting hiccup here and there.
As far as media files most all will play just fine with the exception of protected windows media files. For movies and videoclips, VLC media player is still a favorite of mine and thats what I use. For images, the OS will read pretty much any image format including raw files from cameras.
Sadly I have to say this in each forum but take Winni's posts with a grain of salt. He's an avid apple hater and does nothing but troll the boards spreading false information about apple.
Office 2008 for mac will open everything just fine. I've had a lot of papers with heavy formatting from school come in in the office 2007 and office 2003 versions and all have worked just fine, and when I send it back all the formatting stays in tact.
If you use Open office or iWork you will generally have no problems, but you may run into a formatting hiccup here and there.
As far as media files most all will play just fine with the exception of protected windows media files. For movies and videoclips, VLC media player is still a favorite of mine and thats what I use. For images, the OS will read pretty much any image format including raw files from cameras.
Very true. My wife has been using a Mac for a few years now and we had to install Windows on her Mac (under Parallels) for a class she's taking. Her questions, in approximate order:
"Why can't Internet Explorer show this PDF my professor sent out?"
Her: "I need to type up a quick document, what do I use in Windows?" Me: "WordPad is the included basic word processing app." Few minutes later, her: "How do I insert a graphic in WordPad?" Me: "You don't."
"Why can't Media Player read this audio clip?" (had to download and install a new codec, same as we'd have to have done on a Mac, except on a Mac that codec would have been included in Perian along with every other codec we'd even need)
It amazes me that anyone would argue that Windows, of all things, requires fewer third-party add-ins and hacks just to get it working. Maybe if you buy one from Dell they install all the useful stuff for you, but then you have to deal with uninstalling (and exorcising from the system) all their crapware.
And how many users ever get that deep? I'm a software engineer by profession, and I never run into an instance where Windows software doesn't run just fine on my Mac under Parallels. In any case, the worst-case scenario is that you reboot into Windows and then essentially there's no difference between the Mac and the average Dell other than build quality and that the "Windows" key says "Command" instead.