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WilliamG

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Mar 29, 2008
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Anti-Lucifer if you see the contrast change in the icons, that contrast change already happened during the video. So to me it seems like you are experiencing the problem but simply don't notice it.
 

nathanjbrown

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Apr 9, 2008
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Santa Barbara, CA
OK. Here it is. Clear as day. I won't even bother describing what exactly to look for as it's painfully clear.

Note:
This is an iPad 4th gen.
The iPad's auto-brightness is turned OFF.
Exposure, white balance, aperture, etc. are all fixed on the camera.

This poor video performance is a serious distraction and was never an issue on my 1st gen iPad.

http://youtu.be/QE2Zfbz7Boc

Nathan
 

WilliamG

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Mar 29, 2008
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OK. Here it is. Clear as day. I won't even bother describing what exactly to look for as it's painfully clear.

Note:
This is an iPad 4th gen.
The iPad's auto-brightness is turned OFF.
Exposure, white balance, aperture, etc. are all fixed on the camera.

This poor video performance is a serious distraction and was never an issue on my 1st gen iPad.

http://youtu.be/QE2Zfbz7Boc

Nathan

Great example. The iPad 4 really is awful for videos. Really, really awful. :(
 

PattyMc

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Mar 7, 2012
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William, I do not have this with mine...no flickering at all, I can plainly see it in Nathan's video but can't replicate on mine. I turned off auto brightness and still didn't happen for me.
 
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WilliamG

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Mar 29, 2008
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William any luck getting through to Apple about this? I remember you saying something in an earlier post.

Yes, I've gotten through to Apple and spoken to senior advisors a few times. They tell me to return it/exchange it. Hah!

Anyway, they are apparently aware of the problem so hopefully in the next update it will be fixed. Fingers crossed...?
 

jonnyb098

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Nov 16, 2010
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Yes, I've gotten through to Apple and spoken to senior advisors a few times. They tell me to return it/exchange it. Hah!

Anyway, they are apparently aware of the problem so hopefully in the next update it will be fixed. Fingers crossed...?

Ok, sounds good. As long as they are saying its an issue. I know it looks like its supposed to be a feature (dynamic contrast/gamma). Clearly very annoying during certain videos.
 

Anti-Lucifer

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Mar 9, 2012
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Anti-Lucifer if you see the contrast change in the icons, that contrast change already happened during the video. So to me it seems like you are experiencing the problem but simply don't notice it.

What movie is that (nathanjbrown) so I can test out? I'd like to test on that specific video for most of the movies and tv shows I have does not have that effect depicted in the YouTube video where even the letterbox is washed out :confused:
 

evoixdan

macrumors member
Feb 2, 2010
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My 2 day old retina is suffering from the problems posted in the OP. Thinking about returning it for a mini.
 

dazz87

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Sep 24, 2007
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OK. Here it is. Clear as day. I won't even bother describing what exactly to look for as it's painfully clear.

Note:
This is an iPad 4th gen.
The iPad's auto-brightness is turned OFF.
Exposure, white balance, aperture, etc. are all fixed on the camera.

This poor video performance is a serious distraction and was never an issue on my 1st gen iPad.

http://youtu.be/QE2Zfbz7Boc

Nathan

Looks like you need to do an exchange. 100% of my viewing of tv shows and movies are with the lights off, and I dont have any issue on my ipad 4.
 

novono

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Sep 10, 2012
53
0
Well, I'd like to revise my previous impressions of experiencing the icon behavior only. I don't know whether it's gotten worse or I'm just looking at videos triggering the behavior more easily but it's really irritating and frequent now.

I'm seriously considering returning it however, what if people not experiencing the problem just aren't watching videos that trigger it on THEIR devices? I went back and watched the test videos in this thread and where a few of you had similar problems, it seems I can't replicate with these, but its definitely happening with other videos. So it still could be a software issue. Urgh!
 

WilliamG

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Mar 29, 2008
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Well, I'd like to revise my previous impressions of experiencing the icon behavior only. I don't know whether it's gotten worse or I'm just looking at videos triggering the behavior more easily but it's really irritating and frequent now.

I'm seriously considering returning it however, what if people not experiencing the problem just aren't watching videos that trigger it on THEIR devices? I went back and watched the test videos in this thread and where a few of you had similar problems, it seems I can't replicate with these, but its definitely happening with other videos. So it still could be a software issue. Urgh!

It's definitely a software problem, since it doesn't have this issue in AVPlayer HD (no longer on the App store) and other apps.

*EDIT*

AV Player HD is actually back on the App store. That's good.
 

novono

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Sep 10, 2012
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Oh I see. Has anyone created a thread on the apple support forum I could add to to get their attention? (Sorry if its been mentioned, it's quite a long thread).
 

WilliamG

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Mar 29, 2008
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Seattle
Oh I see. Has anyone created a thread on the apple support forum I could add to to get their attention? (Sorry if its been mentioned, it's quite a long thread).

Yes. I've been in fairly regular contact with Apple. I'm hoping the next update will fix the issue. But who knows... :(
 

novono

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Sep 10, 2012
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Well, now that it think about it, it's been happening in the Tonido streaming app as well. Is it any indication it could be more than software issue then?
 

WilliamG

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Mar 29, 2008
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Seattle
Well, now that it think about it, it's been happening in the Tonido streaming app as well. Is it any indication it could be more than software issue then?

Nope. It's software. Some apps uses Apple's own video rendering software (the problem), and others use their own rendering software (like AVPlayer HD).
 

Mishimal

macrumors newbie
Dec 26, 2012
2
0
So it's almost 100% sure that this is a software issue? There is no need then to replace my new iPad 4, I should just wait for the next iOS upgrade and hope that it solves the problem?

When using AVHDPlayer, this problem does not occur?
 

trouble747

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Jul 30, 2011
328
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Yep, my new ipad 4 does this...

Although I should note that I haven't noticed it when simply watching videos. However, if I pause a dark image (say in the itunes store), I will notice the screen get slightly brighter, and exiting to the desktop will result in a brief washed out image. Basically I have to look for it.
 

AppleRobert

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Nov 12, 2012
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I had the problem and returned it. Waiting on what Apple will do and also for the next gen which I did not really care about till now to tell the truth.
 

kodeman53

macrumors 65816
May 4, 2012
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1
Thank you for your wonderful contribution to this thread. I'll leave the heading as is, because what my iPad DISPLAYS is actually flawed.

At least what I posted was the truth, unlike what this thread has become.
 
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