I bet the 7.85" iPad is a color e-ink reader

Discussion in 'iPad' started by Yr Blues, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. Yr Blues macrumors 68020

    Jan 14, 2008
    That would keep the 9.7" iPad relevant to the line of products.

    People would end up buying both.

    To me, the e-ink Kindle isn't as good as it can be. The resolution isn't great. Its refresh-rate is low. It's not full-color.
  2. dmccloud macrumors 6502a


    Sep 7, 2009
    Anchorage, AK
    The rumored 7.85" iPad wouldn't be competing with the e-ink Kindle, it would be competing with the Kindle Fire. It makes no sense for Apple to turn to e-ink, as the technology a) isn't capable of suitable color reproduction and b) would be a major step backwards from the current iPad.
  3. Yr Blues thread starter macrumors 68020

    Jan 14, 2008
    It could still be the hybrid e-ink display that was patented a while back. I think e-ink is superior for reading books. The iPad 3 is too big and too heavy for long bouts of reading.

    There's also the rumor of a slim bezel, which would be great for books.
  4. spiderman0616 macrumors 68040


    Aug 1, 2010
    Yes, Apple does have, or has at least applied for, a patent that can do both e ink and LCD display. It wouldn't be a big surprise if they put it in an iPad mini. It also wouldn't be a big surprise if they didn't.

    Either way, I think if this product is really in the pipeline, there are a lot of companies that should be shaking in their boots. If the price is right, this is going to be HUGE. And I really hope this is for real because I want to buy one for my wife.
  5. koigirl macrumors 6502a


    Jul 29, 2011
    Raleigh, NC
    I read this from a news blog to my kids last night and they are all saving up - this they can afford!:). I'm sure Apple's product will beat the pants off the competition as usual...
  6. MacAttacka macrumors 6502

    Feb 23, 2012
    But that is e-ink
  7. ReallyBigFeet macrumors 68030


    Apr 15, 2010
    It will be the replacement to the iPod Touch. Non-retina screen, more of an iPad "nano" experience.
  8. Yr Blues thread starter macrumors 68020

    Jan 14, 2008
    No, that's old generation e-ink. The retina display was a game changer for backlit technology. There's more innovation to be had.

    Also, I love e-ink for it's ultra low power consumption.
  9. jekyl macrumors 6502


    Mar 6, 2011
    And if it runs iOS battery life would be measurable in minutes.

  10. bpd115 macrumors 6502a


    Feb 4, 2003

    How did you people ever handle reading actual hardcover books?
  11. bufffilm Suspended


    May 3, 2011
    what makes you think that [a lot of] people read hardcover books using one hand? i always used two hands.

    you may not like the answer, but the ipad is a little too large and too flat to hold in one hand for prolonged reading. at least with hardcovers, if you held them in the spine fold, it made them a little more comfortable using one hand, the ipad is completely flat and large enough that holding it along the edge does not give enough balance to avoid hand & finger fatigue.

    i was reading on my ipad on the subway this morning - one hand was holding onto the pole and the other hand on the ipad and my fingers were fatiguing even though i have a case that has a hand strap.

    and no, i'm not a weakling either.
  12. porcupine8 macrumors 6502a

    Mar 2, 2011
    Wait, so you think this is going to be an ultra-low-power-consumption, backlit, retina e-ink display?
  13. APlotdevice macrumors 68040


    Sep 3, 2011
    To be clear the patent says electronic paper, not eInk. EInk is a form of electronic paper, though it could never possibly work in the way the patent describes; The electronic paper layer would have to be transparent, which is physically impossible for eInk.
  14. Night Spring macrumors G5

    Night Spring

    Jul 17, 2008
    Is a 7inch tablet like Kindle Fire good for one-handed reading? It's a bit heavier than a paper back, correct? And personally I've found that even paperbacks get heavy if I try to hold them one-handed for too long.

    I do find that the iPhone / iPod touch is perfect for one-handed reading. Otherwise, I've always thought that reading a book required two hands, which is probably why I'm not bothered that the iPad needs two hands.
  15. Don Kosak macrumors 6502a

    Don Kosak

    Mar 12, 2010
    Hilo, Hawaii
    I really like holding the iPad in "landscape" mode and typing on the nearly full sized keyboard. So, I'm a little skeptical of how useful the smaller iPad will be.

    That said, if Apple can make a lower priced 7.85" iPad I might still buy one. It makes sense for students (with iBook textbooks) and for general reading / browsing.


    I have a Kindle Fire. It does feel a bit bulky, and honestly I do most of my reading on the iPad. It's heavier, but I guess because of how thin it is, and how easy it is to hold, I find the iPad to be more comfortable.

    When I'm traveling, I read on my iPhone quite frequently. It's a surprisingly good e-reader.
  16. sekazi macrumors 6502

    Jan 12, 2012
    E-Ink especially in color takes forever to load a page. I am talking about 1 frame per second. Smooth scrolling would be impossible. You would have to revert back to click wait click wait.
  17. bufffilm Suspended


    May 3, 2011
    i don't own a 7" tablet so i couldn't really say. i've held a nook color and didn't find it hard to hold in portrait mode using one hand. landscape mode might have been a little more problematic comfort-wise but still pretty easy to hold.

  18. fertilized-egg macrumors 68020

    Dec 18, 2009
    The rumor is LG will supply their usual LCD panels to Apple for the new device. LG doesn't make e-ink displays.

    I'm most curious about the thin bezel rumor. If the bezel is really thin and they can keep the size as small as possible, it can be a really good device, basically an 8" iPad in a 7" tablet size.
  19. MF878 macrumors regular


    Jul 12, 2011
    Auckland, New Zealand
    Funny that, I read for six hours straight on it the other day and had no issues. And yes, I was stupid to read The Hunger Games in one sitting.
  20. Star56 macrumors member

    Sep 30, 2007
    My 3 year old...yes my three year old walks around with her ipad1 all day long. Plays with it constantly. Yet grown adults find it too heavy. Oh please.
  21. Moonjumper macrumors 68000


    Jun 20, 2009
    Lincoln, UK
    If they do a 7.85" iPad, I think they will do everything to keep costs down to separate it from the 9.7" model. That probably means a cheaper non-IPS LCD screen such as they have in the iPod touch.
  22. christophermdia macrumors 6502a


    Sep 28, 2008
    im interested in understanding their pricing scheme. at a $249/$299 price, that would equal or be cheaper than an ipod touch. either the 7" ipad will cost much more or the ipod touch is going to drop quite a bit.
  23. poloponies Suspended

    May 3, 2010
    You're trying to understand an imaginary pricing scheme. This is an unbased rumor that has next to no possibility of being realized. There's no product that they can create, market and sell for $249-299.
  24. christophermdia macrumors 6502a


    Sep 28, 2008
    I agree which is why I said, either the ipad mini would be priced much higher or the ipod touch would need to be priced much lower....if I had to guess I think this ipad mini would need to be priced at a minimum of $399, but then that doesnt make it price competitive to the Kindle Fire, if thats what they do indeed tend to battle against.
  25. HazyCloud macrumors 68030


    Jun 30, 2010
    The iPad 2 is now 399 so it's going to need to be around 249-299 to compete with the Fire.

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