Its good that your OK now. Cigs are absolute garbage, waste of time if you want to party...nothing can substitute for alcohol as the best party drug 
well depressant in reality.
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Yeah totally. As they say, "there's a time and place for everything: college."
I dunno man, I felt like **** after the first time I smoked a cigar, and I'm 20. Mind, I was also drunk off my ass that night, so that didn't help.
Doesn't matter how old you are, though... if you've never smoked before it can hit you hard no matter what.
ALERT*** I'm about to break this wide open and be the jerk****
Let's all remember that giving advice will more than likely fall on deaf ears since Don knows what he's doing and can handle everything. Like drinking every few months at the age of 14. And calling his mother a hypocrite for not wanting him to do the same stupid mistake she has fallen into.
Sorry, but I have no sympathy. With this comment
You are 14, what the hell do you have to be so stressed over to start abusing alcohol? And you think you can handle it, until you start getting older and more stressed and therefore you start drinking more and more, at parties and so on. You don't want a lecture but you sure as hell need one or you won't make it past the age of 25 do to either A) dying from a drunken accident or B) liver failure because you started drinking at such an early age..
But again, I forget who I am talking to, the youngest wisest person on the face of the earth who knows everything about everything. Or maybe I should have your attitude, if you screw up oh well, you have to deal with. But there is that mom thing and your family that will have to deal with your mistakes oh, and society if you should do something illegal while drunk..
I am sorry for the rant, but to be cavalier about using alcohol at 14 is ridiculous to me...
Let's all remember that giving advice will more than likely fall on deaf ears since Don knows what he's doing and can handle everything. Like drinking every few months at the age of 14. And calling his mother a hypocrite for not wanting him to do the same stupid mistake she has fallen into.
Sorry, but I have no sympathy. With this comment
You are 14, what the hell do you have to be so stressed over to start abusing alcohol? And you think you can handle it, until you start getting older and more stressed and therefore you start drinking more and more, at parties and so on. You don't want a lecture but you sure as hell need one or you won't make it past the age of 25 do to either A) dying from a drunken accident or B) liver failure because you started drinking at such an early age..
But again, I forget who I am talking to, the youngest wisest person on the face of the earth who knows everything about everything. Or maybe I should have your attitude, if you screw up oh well, you have to deal with. But there is that mom thing and your family that will have to deal with your mistakes oh, and society if you should do something illegal while drunk..
I am sorry for the rant, but to be cavalier about using alcohol at 14 is ridiculous to me...
i had a cigar for the first time, first time i had ever smoked anything in my life and it was a pleasant experience
actually enjoyed the setting and process of pickiing out cigars in a humidor
wont make it a habit but i could see myself smoking the cigar on few social occasions that call for it
didnt feel sick at all, though definitely could feel the effect of it
Isn't that becuz you don't inhale with cigars? Don't you just smoke them for their flavor?
Isn't that becuz you don't inhale with cigars? Don't you just smoke them for their flavor?
thats correct
Exactly if you want a shower have one if a shower made me feel better I would take one And deal with the issues tomorrow
I appreciate jonbravo's point here, but with a bit of a difference. What he saw were warning bells for me as well, but I think the feeling of stress is very real. I do recall being 14 and stressed about all sorts of things and I had a reasonably "normal" life. I've met plenty of 14yo's who have experienced plenty of traumatic events in their lives. I wouldn't be so quick to discount the feeling based on age.
Having said that, Don's statement about using alcohol to reduce stress is worrisome to me. That sort of behavior can quickly degrade into some pretty serious dependencies. Better to investigate alternatives and nip that behavior pattern in the bud while you still can.
I've seen far too many people say, "oh it's not a problem. I can handle it." only to find out that they can't. Be aware of your own tendencies. Corrective action is always better earlier.
And by the same token, take the smoking lesson seriously. Smoking is expensive upfront (purchasing price) and even more so down the line (health effects). There really is nothing cool about smoking, no matter what they tell you--it's not rebellious, it's dumb. and it is intensely addictive. You will become addicted if you continue down that road. Plus, people appreciate kissing non-smokers more than smokers (smokers breath is nasty, especially in the morning).
I'm not discounting anything due to age, when I was 14 I was wondering when I was going to be beaten next by my step-father, I didn't turn to alcohol, Then I started to grow up wondering if my mother would be around to see me graduate high school because she had a brain tumor, again, didn't turn to alcohol. From other threads Don has participated in he's made it pretty clear that he doesn't have that bad of a life, I could be wrong but that is the impression I get.
Sorry if I am being a jerk, but Don has spent a lot of time making sure everyone here knows that he doesn't have sympathy for other people's problems, so I have a hard time having sympathy for his problems that would lead him to have a cavalier attitude about alcohol... There is no reason to start drinking at such a young age due to stress, and I do agree with you saying that people who have the biggest problem with an addiction are those who say "I can handle it.."
I understand your (and jonbravo's) concern. But at most I have 4 drinks in a year. I understand the dangers of alcohol, I've seen what it can do to people, and I know how to watch myself. And it's not hard liquor or anything like that, the only thing I'll touch is a good pinot noir, or a good cabernet sauvignon, and even then, it's rare if I finish a glass. I can't even stand the smell of scotch, rum, and other hard liquors.
And in all reality, in many parts of Europe, drinking wine is legal for someone my age.
Don
i'm probably late... buuut - you should have washed your hands and brushed your teeth, then ate some food and put the clothes you were wearing in a closet or under a dresser.
you could have woken up at normal time and showered in the AM and everything would have been fine.
this is why you don't do stupid stuff like that. is being cool at a party really worth being grounded?
you could have woken up at normal time and showered in the AM and everything would have been fine.
this is why you don't do stupid stuff like that. is being cool at a party really worth being grounded?
Everything was taken care of this morning. She has no idea. And I for one will never touch a cigarette again.
Don
You were lucky that cigarettes made you feel sick. When I first tried them, they were great and that alone scared me. I hated that I actually liked breathing in burnt vegetable matter into my lungs. It made me feel relaxed and confident. Knowing that it kills more people than just about any other cause, the fear of getting truly addicted has woken me up out of a deep sleep. For a sense of grounding on this issue, see the Russel Crowe movie, "The Insider".
The other day, a young man told me he believes cigarettes are more addictive than meth. He looks at his friends, for whatever reasons, that have kicked the meth habit, and ones who kicked cigarettes, and then the ones who kicked both.
Legal and (relatively) cheap, cigarettes are still no easier to cut out of one's life than any substance known whether it's legal like alcohol or illegal like meth and cocaine. People who have smoked cigars or chewed tobacco and walked away from those, sometimes cannot shake cigarettes. But again the movie I mentioned goes into why that is.
Dam 14. Most importnant thing in my life then was trying to get 20 hours of mountain bike riding in on the weekend (god I miss those carefree days.)
Things to remember:
1: You're fourteen and have "I hate my mother syndrome"
2: You're mother has "losing her baby" syndrome and realizing that you're growing up
3: Your mother (and father) will love you no matter what, and should accept the mistakes you make, as long as you learn from them. Whatever the mistakes are (my vice was street racing in the hills, and I've still not learnt)
4: Drugs ruin lives, if I fail a urine test at work (UG coal mine) it's instant dismissal, will never work in the industry again. That's over 130,000 good reasons every year to not take drugs.
5: You made a mistake in your mind, for better or worse you followed the "Don't ask don't tell policy," and that was your decision to make. More importantly you've learnt from the experience. Which is more valuable than any text book reading or video viewing.
6: Life's long, you'll make mistakes, **** happens, the sun sets in the west every night and rises in the east every morning. And that's every day
Jimmy.
P.S: the point about murder is that if you don't get caught, and you don't tell, it's as if it never happened.
Things to remember:
1: You're fourteen and have "I hate my mother syndrome"
2: You're mother has "losing her baby" syndrome and realizing that you're growing up
3: Your mother (and father) will love you no matter what, and should accept the mistakes you make, as long as you learn from them. Whatever the mistakes are (my vice was street racing in the hills, and I've still not learnt
)4: Drugs ruin lives, if I fail a urine test at work (UG coal mine) it's instant dismissal, will never work in the industry again. That's over 130,000 good reasons every year to not take drugs.
5: You made a mistake in your mind, for better or worse you followed the "Don't ask don't tell policy," and that was your decision to make. More importantly you've learnt from the experience. Which is more valuable than any text book reading or video viewing.
6: Life's long, you'll make mistakes, **** happens, the sun sets in the west every night and rises in the east every morning. And that's every day
Jimmy.
P.S: the point about murder is that if you don't get caught, and you don't tell, it's as if it never happened.
Not to be lame, but just because it is legal in other countries does not mean that teen drinking is good idea. In fact, it is pretty dumb. Now before you think I am taking some holier-than-thou approach, I drank first at 17 (although after that I waited until 21) and had the mindset before then that adults just set some arbitrary age to hold us kids down.
Now that I am 25 and engaged to a soon-to-be doctor, I understand the logic behind 21. It really isn't about worrying you'll become dependent (although a risk) and it has nothing to do with you not being man enough. The fact is that there are some pretty important brain developments that are occurring during the teen years (especially 14). In fact, the brain does not stop developing until the early to mid 20s. Adding any alcohol to the mix during this development early on *could* screw your emotional, social, and cognitive abilities for life.
My dad suffered from schizophrenia leading my mom to have to leave him for our safety. We moved a lot because she struggled with money as a single mom. I had every reason to drink from stress at your age, but I am glad I did not. My advice, as lame as you might take it to be, would be just find another outlet to deal with stress in your life. Wait until you are older then by all means have a great time.