I do not understand the 'notch' angst at all.

[inscrewtable]

I just had to pop down to Virgin to swap a micro sim for a nano sim and while I was there I had a look at the Galaxy S8 there was a skylight above and while I could position the screen so that the Sun was not refelecting off the front face, I noticed that no matter how I positioned the device I could not eliminate the reflection of the Sun down both sides of the phone. The bright point light of the sun which becomes very small on the curve is more glaring than it appears in the video. Not only the point light but you can also see how much the reflection impinges on the viewing area even more around the curved edges. I pointed this out to the rep who just kept saying "oh this is the best screen, much better than an iPhone.

I said but look at the frikken reflections. He just said, but it's a better screen. Weird. So to bring this post back on topic here's another reason that the so called 'notch' complaints which does not impinge on content area is compared unfavourably to the "edge to edge" Galaxy S8 even though the curved side reflection actually obscures content. I think we can pretty well guarantee that next year's S9 will not have a curved display. Not only that but look at the distortion of the reflections on the front!

Also see a still from the video of both phones with the Sun positioned in the same place, look at the difference in quality between the iPhone glare reduction and the Galaxy, which looks like a kaleidoscope filter has been placed over the lens.

 

[iSayBoourns]

I just had to pop down to Virgin to swap a micro sim for a nano sim and while I was there I had a look at the Galaxy S8 there was a skylight above and while I could position the screen so that the Sun was not refelecting off the front face, I noticed that no matter how I positioned the device I could not eliminate the reflection of the Sun down both sides of the phone. The bright point light of the sun which becomes very small on the curve is more glaring that it appears in the video. Not only the point light but you can also see how much the reflection impinge on the viewing area even more around the curved edges. I pointed this out to the rep who just kept saying "oh this is the best screen, much better than an iPhone.

I said but look at the frikken reflections. He just said, but it's a better screen. Weird. So to bring this post back on topic here's another reason that the so called 'notch' complaints which does not impinge on content area is compared unfavourably to the "edge to edge" Galaxy S8 even though the curved side reflection actually obscures content. I think we can pretty well guarantee that next year's S9 will not have a curved display. Not only that but look at the distortion of the reflections on the front!

Also see a still from the video of both phones with the Sun positioned in the same place, look at the difference in quality between the iPhone glare reduction and the Galaxy, which looks like a kaleidoscope filter has been placed over the lens.

There’s a reason no other manufacturer has mimicked the curved edges. Because it’s terrible design. You can’t fix obnoxious glare and image warping via software.

Infact I just saw a video about s9/9+rumours to also have a notch but on the bottom for the fingerprint reader. They even have had patents on a notched design since 2016)

 

[roeiz]

I just had to pop down to Virgin to swap a micro sim for a nano sim and while I was there I had a look at the Galaxy S8 there was a skylight above and while I could position the screen so that the Sun was not refelecting off the front face, I noticed that no matter how I positioned the device I could not eliminate the reflection of the Sun down both sides of the phone. The bright point light of the sun which becomes very small on the curve is more glaring that it appears in the video. Not only the point light but you can also see how much the reflection impinge on the viewing area even more around the curved edges. I pointed this out to the rep who just kept saying "oh this is the best screen, much better than an iPhone.

I said but look at the frikken reflections. He just said, but it's a better screen. Weird. So to bring this post back on topic here's another reason that the so called 'notch' complaints which does not impinge on content area is compared unfavourably to the "edge to edge" Galaxy S8 even though the curved side reflection actually obscures content. I think we can pretty well guarantee that next year's S9 will not have a curved display. Not only that but look at the distortion of the reflections on the front!

Also see a still from the video of both phones with the Sun positioned in the same place, look at the difference in quality between the iPhone glare reduction and the Galaxy, which looks like a kaleidoscope filter has been placed over the lens.

So now the x will also have that reflection?

 

[inscrewtable]

Here's another still from the clip. See how the iPhone has a few short rainbow bars on each side of the Sun, but the Galaxy is just an explosion of rainbow covering the whole screen. Not much point in having a brighter display if you can't see it anyway. What a joke, this is not rocket science, it's just a frikken screen coating. Camera and ordinary spectacle have better coating than that. It's not like you're paying for some cheap bottom tier device. How people put up with this is beyond my ken. No wonder those who maintain the Samsung screen is better are so angry, I'd be angry too if I felt compelled to use such a terrible screen.

My background is in professional colour laboratory technical work and if you look at the colour of the video, (at least on my rMBP) in the post above, it is unbelievably perfect. The skin tone is 100% accurate and the neutrals are dead neutral.

Look at this video of the S8 vs the plus in gaming, the Galaxy is plainly magenta, I'd say a 20cc magenta cast over the entire clip, where as it's easy to see the iPhone colour is accurate. You never hear people talk about 'accuracy' with the Samsung or other monitors, just 'saturated', vibrant, bright, colourful, everything but accurate.

And if you look at the skin tone of the guy holding both devices you can see that while the game is playing magenta his skin tone is tinged green! That is unbelievably craptastic.

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So now the x will also have that reflection?

Why would you say that, it has a flat screen, not even the other Android phones have gone down that route, for good reason. The xiaomi mi mix 2 looks so much better.

 

[roeiz]

Why would you say that, it has a flat screen, not even the other Android phones have gone down that route, for good reason. The xiaomi mi mix 2 looks so much better.

was just asking.

 

[inscrewtable]

was just asking.

What is it you're asking, are you perhaps wondering if the X screen has curved side? No you obviously know that it doesn't, so seriously I don't know what it is that you're asking. Maybe you misunderstood my post? Can I phone a friend?

 

[roeiz]

What is it you're asking, are you perhaps wondering if the X screen has curved side? No you obviously know that it doesn't, so seriously I don't know what it is that you're asking. Maybe you misunderstood my post? Can I phone a friend?

i thought OLED might do these reflection regardless of the curved sides.
the X screen looks quite reflective in videos.
forget it you seem so agitated you don't need to reply.

 

[inscrewtable]

i thought OLED might do these reflection regardless of the curved sides.
the X screen looks quite reflective in videos.
forget it you seem so agitated you don't need to reply.

What makes you think I'm agitated? I'm just trying to work out what you're getting at. As far as reflection goes there's two aspects, there's the shape of the phone and then there's the coating. As the X or indeed any iPhone or indeed any Android phone I've seen does not have curved edges then that's not an issue. As for coating, well my rMBP has brilliant reflection reduction as does my iPod and as you can see from the video I posted today (below) the current iPhone 8 has much better reflection coating than the Samsung which is not a cheap phone. So I can only make an educated guess that the X will be at least as good if not better.

 

[roeiz]

i thought OLED might do these reflection regardless of the curved sides.
the X screen looks quite reflective in videos.

What makes you think I'm agitated? I'm just trying to work out what you're getting at. As far as reflection goes there's two aspects, there's the shape of the phone and then there's the coating. As the X or indeed any iPhone or indeed any Android phone I've seen does not have curved edges then that's not an issue. As for coating, well my rMBP has brilliant reflection reduction as does my iPod and as you can see from the video I posted today (below) the current iPhone 8 has much better reflection coating than the Samsung which is not a cheap phone. So I can only make an educated guess that the X will be at least as good if not better.

hope you're right.

 

[inscrewtable]

There’s a reason no other manufacturer has mimicked the curved edges. Because it’s terrible design. You can’t fix obnoxious glare and image warping via software.

Infact I just saw a video about s9/9+rumours to also have a notch but on the bottom for the fingerprint reader. They even have had patents on a notched design since 2016)

I'm pretty confident Samsung will ditch curved sides next iteration. I think it's going to be full on panic stations for Samsung as they likely already have the S9 finalised, the best they can hope for is fingerprint reader either under glass which I somehow don't believe they can pull off successfully or back on the front in a tiny bezel area. Either way they're working with dead tech.