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General I don't get the hypocritical hate against pirated apps

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docgerrard

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Someone asks a question about downloading music illegally from youtube... no problem!

Someone asks about jailbreaking apple TV to watch TV illegally... no problem!

Someone even slightly mentions pirating an app... huge outcry by everyone.

Its quite hypocritical.
 
It is against the Forum Rules :)

Warez/Serials/Keys. Do not post software serial numbers or keys or refer people to specific websites, software, or techniques whose purpose is to break or bypass software licensing methods, distribute cracks, or obtain or use commercial software or media in violation of its license and/or for copyright violation. Do not ask for or give such help.
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docgerrard said:
Someone asks a question about downloading music illegally from youtube... no problem!

Someone asks about jailbreaking apple TV to watch TV illegally... no problem!

Someone even slightly mentions pirating an app... huge outcry by everyone.

Its quite hypocritical.
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I don't speak for everyone on the forums but if someone were to ask me how to do any of these things, I tell them to buy it.

As for the Apple TV comment, I don't really understand what you mean. The jailbreaks available for Apple TV just allow it to play content from sources other than the default ones. That may or may not pirated content. Some people buy DVDs/Blu-Rays and store the rips to a NAS. And they want their Apple TV to be able to play from that NAS. That isn't illegal.
 
SnowLeopard2008 said:
I don't speak for everyone on the forums but if someone were to ask me how to do any of these things, I tell them to buy it.

As for the Apple TV comment, I don't really understand what you mean. The jailbreaks available for Apple TV just allow it to play content from sources other than the default ones. That may or may not pirated content. Some people buy DVDs/Blu-Rays and store the rips to a NAS. And they want their Apple TV to be able to play from that NAS. That isn't illegal.
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Exactly. It doesn't alter your cable subscription. It merely brings Apple TV in line with what you could play on something like a Roku.
 
From A Buick 8 said:
It is simple pirateing apps harms the developers that we all rely on to provide the awesome apps and tweaks that we love.
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THIS ^^^

You'd have to be a f@#!ing idiot to not understand that if jailbreak developers aren't paid for the time they put into making awesome jailbreak tweaks for us, then they will find something else that does pay them and leave the jailbreak community :mad:
 
To answer your question, it's not about morals, it's the simple fact that it against the forum rules (as others have stated).
 
iBreatheApple said:
To answer your question, it's not about morals, it's the simple fact that it against the forum rules (as others have stated).
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No, people rarely site forum rules when people ask about cracked apps.. people tend to pull the moral card and he is right..its very hypocritical.
 
cclloyd said:
I thought it was only unlocking those was illegal while unlocking for iphone was legal.
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In the US, it is illegal to unlock an iPhone sold after January 31, 2013, except through the iPhone's carrier. But legal to still unlock all other older iPhones through any means. How does one unlock an Apple TV, iPad, or iPod Touch? The iPads sold in the US are already unlocked.
 
dlmart2 said:
No, people rarely site forum rules when people ask about cracked apps.. people tend to pull the moral card and he is right..its very hypocritical.
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That is true, some people are like that and act as if they are morally superior to everyone in the forum but my answer is still relevant the OPs question. There is nothing in the rules that forbids the previous mentions but there is in regard to pirated apps.
 
Intell said:
Jailbreaking the Apple TV, iPad, and iPad Mini is illegal in the US, but legal for jailbreaking the iPhone and iPod Touch.
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Actually, those things are simply not explicitly legal...they are not illegal per se, they just aren't currently written into the DMCA exception that the iPhone is. It is a legal gray area that has never been tested.
 
I feel it has two sides to it. Personally, I think piracy of apps is wrong because the developers work hard on their apps and for most, it's a steady source of income.

However, I think it absolutely sucks that the App Store doesn't have some kind way to trial an app before actually buying it. There are many times that I have spent money on an app that I end up not liking or having no use for. And yes, it's 99¢ for most...but over time that adds up! I think people's urges to pirate apps would die down a bit if there was a way to test out apps before actually buying them.
 
Intell said:
Jailbreaking the Apple TV, iPad, and iPad Mini is illegal in the US, but legal for jailbreaking the iPhone and iPod Touch.
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When was jailbreaking the iPad and iPad mini made illegal? I thought when they ruled jailbreaking legal in was for ALL iOS devices? :confused:
 
chrf097 said:
When was jailbreaking the iPad and iPad mini made illegal? I thought when they ruled jailbreaking legal in was for ALL iOS devices? :confused:
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Jailbreaking the iPad and iPad Mini was made illegal in 1998 with the passing of the DMCA. The exemption outlines only mobile phones (iPhone) and iPod Touches are allowed to be jailbroken. At the time of the first filling in 2009, the iPad did not exist and the Apple TV was still Mac OS X based. The DCMA makes jailbreaking both of those devices illegal because the act of jailbreaking incurs breaking past the system's digital defenses and modifying the system's code. Both of which are prohibited under the DCMA.
 
Intell said:
Jailbreaking the iPad and iPad Mini was made illegal in 1998 with the passing of the DMCA. The exemption outlines only mobile phones (iPhone) and iPod Touches are allowed to be jailbroken. At the time of the first filling in 2009, the iPad did not exist and the Apple TV was still Mac OS X based. The DCMA makes jailbreaking both of those devices illegal because the act of jailbreaking incurs breaking past the system's digital defenses and modifying the system's code. Both of which are prohibited under the DCMA.
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Can you point out with part of the DMCA prohibits jailbreaking the iPad but not the iPhone, considering I *highly* doubt anyone was going to take account jailbreaking a tablet or a smart phone (none of those terms of which even existed in 1998)
 
There is no reason to hate, act above or better or try to preach to others IMO.
People will do whatever they want to do with their life so I dont bother trying to tell people things like this is wrong and Im right and you're a bad person for thinking/doing that or any other bs like that.
The bottom line is that its against forum rules so that's enough to avoid discussion. Doesnt mean you have to agree with the rule or not but you need to follow it.
 
If jailbreaking an ipad were illegal (which at the end of the day uses the same software and serves the same purpose of an IPT) wouldnt it be against forum rules to post about jailbroken ipads?

Can you elaborate more on this 1998 act you mention?
 
From A Buick 8 said:
It is simple pirateing apps harms the developers that we all rely on to provide the awesome apps and tweaks that we love.
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But pirating music and movies does no harm to the artists who make them? Please explain.

FWIW, there's a similar hypocrisy in the accessories forums where fake accessories discussions abound.
 
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