I don't understand (leaked design)

[hypnoz]

It looks like utter crap. Basically they make the 4s thinner and longer? After the huge step forward from a 3GS --> 4? This is completely incremental and downright uninspiring. Really bad considering their competition.

Two tone back? That's a laughably bad design flaw. Longer without being wider so an extra row of icons can be had? Even worse.

 

[onthecouchagain]

"Some of us, though, expect more than others out of the most innovative company on the planet."


I don't get this. What is it about our culture that makes us root for the underdog and then when the underdog finally makes it, we beat him up mercilessly? I don't get it?

So, is this admission that Apple isn't innovating anymore? It sounds like it.

Which is good! This is the first step that I hope many adopt so that Apple will wake up.

We now know that Apple actually pays very close attention to consumers. It's time people speak up. If we continue to blindly buy anything Apple, why would Apple change or feel pressure to improve?

People need to be more intellectually honest about Apple's shortcomings. This is good for Apple, and will be good for us.

 

[smotheredhope]

Ok, we get it. You're beating a dead horse.

Really? Isn't that what both sides are doing right now? Let's be honest. All the appletards thatwill buy anything slung at them as well as the ones bothered by this new ridiculous leaked design.

Would kinda be boring around here if everyone agreed I think.

By the way I think it looks like **** and I love that guys post. Hilarious and true whether beaten like a dead horse or not.

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Question: do the people that like this design really think it is innovative or just safe? Oh, and try to be honest.

 

[mattopotamus]

Really? Isn't that what both sides are doing right now? Let's be honest. All the appletards thatwill buy anything slung at them as well as the ones bothered by this new ridiculous leaked design.

Would kinda be boring around here if everyone agreed I think.

By the way I think it looks like **** and I love that guys post. Hilarious and true whether beaten like a dead horse or not.

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Question: do the people that like this design really think it is innovative or just safe? Oh, and try to be honest.

question: what would you like them to do? Most smartphones look the same....a rectangle with a grid style layout. You can only go so thin, so differnt.

 

[hypnoz]

I think the two tone back gives it a style and makes it look much more 'new' and 'fresh'. It differentiates much more from the 2010 iPhone 4. Also, I wasn't too fond either of this new speaker grill - but I have put some thought in it, and I think they did this so people won't mistake it for the smaller dock connector. Imagine seeing almost three identical holes on the bottom... people would probably damage either the smaller dock connector, or the speaker/microphone.

Exactly! In fact, I think Apple ought to make the back design like a metal and glass plaid design, to even further differentiate it! That would surely make it more stylish!

 

[BFizzzle]

I think, or at least my thing is, it's the two-toned back. I'm not saying it's "not Apple" or it doesn't look decent, but I think of many of their devices as simple and streamline. I know the first-gen had a similar effect, but the phones have been so clean since.

I'd definitely purchase it but again, I don't like the two-toned look.

agreed. i would think they keep it all one tone. I do like the black bezel

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I own a 4s and don't like this new design?

That's okay. Lots of people didn't like the 4/4S design until they actually saw one in person. Just wait.

 

[Ay_Zimmy]

At least some people here respect the design. All this extra big iPhone garbage is making me sick. It's incredibly easy to hold the phone in your hand.. Also it doesn't make sense that it would be like all the other phones. That would just distinguish it even less. The hd video and everything in landscape mode will be amazing with retina display. All those other devices aren't innovative, congrats on your long, wide screen.. Nah.. Anyways, that design as a whole looks completely boss. It doesn't look like the 4S st all. Like the shape is pretty much the same, but it's not. It's a good design that works, all the other ones had horrible body's. Like the 3G/S was plastic. But I suppose people didn't have the same expectations then.. This iPhone looks straight up sexy in those pics though. I'm all for it, and so will the haters eventually

 

[batting1000]

Question: do the people that like this design really think it is innovative or just safe? Oh, and try to be honest.

I don't see why it has to b innovative. Is the Galaxy S3 design innovative or more so than previous generations? The new Droids coming out have no innovative design. Most have the same angled off edges as each other.

 

[k3roro]

This looks absolutely fantastic, I need it now!

 

[batting1000]

agreed. i would think they keep it all one tone. I do like the black bezel

I feel the metal on the back will serve a purpose, but I'm not sure.

 

[hypnoz]

I feel the metal on the back will serve a purpose, but I'm not sure.

It serves the purpose of looking stupid and cheap. I honestly don't think Apple would release a two tone back, it is beyond cheesy looking. Plus, if there is a need for a metal back, why keep the glass?? Makes no sense.

 

[onthecouchagain]

I don't see why it has to b innovative. Is the Galaxy S3 design innovative or more so than previous generations? The new Droids coming out have no innovative design. Most have the same angled off edges as each other.

The issue is, no one is claiming that Samsung is the leading innovator in the tech world. Though they're still trying (especially software wise).

And the other thing is, not only is Apple not innovating, but they're playing catch up (LTE), and in some cases are hardly catching up (.5 inches?). We may not even get NFC.

And if the leaks are true, this will likely be the design for the next two years. That is an awfully long commitment, which I think worries people. You can rattle on all you want about how Apple doesn't need to change things (which is in itself part of the issue. iOS devotees that will buy anything they release is why they don't need to change things. And now that we know they do actually pay close attention to consumers, it's ever more important to speak up), or how they don't want to further fragment their lineup (which in itself is yet another issue. In my opinion, the fear of further fragmenting their OS is holding them back. In trying to keep 3 year old devices in the loop, they can't make any drastic changes to the OS or hardware), but none of that changes that they're not living up to their touted mantra that they are the most innovative tech company.

At some point, something's got to give. Either Apple is innovating and doing so without fear, or they're not because they don't want to shock their millions of user base.

 

[batting1000]

The issue is, no one is claiming that Samsung is the leading innovator in the tech world. Though they're still trying (especially software wise).

Doesn't matter. Just because no one says you're the leading innovator doesn't mean you get a free pass.

 

[onthecouchagain]

Doesn't matter. Just because no one says you're the leading innovator doesn't mean you get a free pass.

Free pass to what? I'm saying Apple isn't innovating anymore. And you're saying neither is Samsung (which, for now, I'm content to agree with). I'm saying the difference is that only one of those companies is being touted as the greatest tech innovator by themselves, and by their devoted fans.

I'm beginning to think intellectual consistency is something you can't grasp; which explains a lot.

 

[VulchR]

Antenna-gate, part 2?

I am not an engineer, but wouldn't a metal backplate de-tune the the antennae on the side of the phone via a circuit through the hand? Isn't that why Apple used glass in the first place on the 4 and the 4S?

 

[batting1000]

Free pass to what? I'm saying Apple isn't innovating anymore. And you're saying neither is Samsung (which, for now, I'm content to agree with). I'm saying the difference is that only one of those companies is being touted as the greatest tech innovator by themselves, and by their devoted fans.

I'm beginning to think intellectual consistency is something you can't grasp; which explains a lot.

There's nothing to grasp and I'm not favoring either company over the either. I merely stating how you're assuming Apple isn't innovating because of leaked parts. If you don't like what you see, that's fine, but I really don't know what you're expecting, regardless of whether the company is "the world's greatest innovator" or not.

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I am not an engineer, but wouldn't a metal backplate de-tune the the antennae on the side of the phone via a circuit through the hand? Isn't that why Apple used glass in the first place on the 4 and the 4S?

Like I said, I feel they've reworked how the antenna works and that the metal back plate will have a purpose as we'll hopefully find out soon.

 

[onthecouchagain]

There's nothing to grasp and I'm not favoring either company over the either. I merely stating how you're assuming Apple isn't innovating because of leaked parts. If you don't like what you see, that's fine, but I really don't know what you're expecting, regardless of whether the company is "the world's greatest innovator" or not.

Sir, this whole thread is about leaked/rumored parts. Like someone mentioned already, if you want to say it's silly to criticized leaked parts because it may not be the real thing, then it's equally silly to praise it. If it really is all silly, why are you responding to (and starting) these sorts of threads?

But if you want to wait until the real deal to judge, sure. I'm as eager and excited to see what Apple will unveil this Fall. And though it may not seem it, I'm rooting for them. I criticize them, and urge others to criticize them (especially now that we know they pay close attention to consumers) in the genuine hopes that they improve.

 

[batting1000]

Sir, this whole thread is about leaked/rumored parts. Like someone mentioned already, if you want to say it's silly to criticized leaked parts because it may not be the real thing, then it's equally silly to praise it. If it really is all silly, why are you responding to (and starting) these sorts of threads?

But if you want to wait until the real deal to judge, sure. I'm as eager and excited to see what Apple will unveil this Fall. And though it may not seem it, I'm rooting for them. I criticize, and urge others to criticize, them in the genuine hopes that they improve.

This is ridiculous, you're not understanding my point. Let's just stop now and continue the original discussion, ok?

 

[retinarob]

It looks like utter crap. Basically they make the 4s thinner and longer? After the huge step forward from a 3GS --> 4? This is completely incremental and downright uninspiring. Really bad considering their competition.

Two tone back? That's a laughably bad design flaw. Longer without being wider so an extra row of icons can be had? Even worse.

How is that a design flaw? Please, enlighten me as to what Apple didn't figure out.

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Complaining about un unreleased phone is no crazier than loving the design of an unreleased phone. Some of you think the redesign looks great, I dont. Ive owned the 3GS, 4 and the 4S but if this is the new iphone I wont be getting it. I use my iphone in landscape alot and adding length does nothing for me.

1/4" of an inch in length is going to make you switch to which phone exactly?

 

[BFizzzle]

I feel the metal on the back will serve a purpose, but I'm not sure.

yeah im sure if they actually do that there will be a reason, i just think it would look best if it was all one color.

 

[redred]

I don't understand why everyone is mad about the leaked designs of the next iPhone. It looks really good in these pictures. I think once everyone gets to see one in person, they'll all change their minds.


Am I missing something here?

You are missing nothing. No matter what changes Apple was going to make to the iPhone, people on this forum were going to find something to bitch about.

If the next iPhone were to be wider, then some people would complain about that. There are plenty of MR members bitching about a taller but not wider iPhone (as is expected to be unveiled).

Honestly, I would just ignore it if I were you. I seriously don't care if others don't like the next iPhone. All that matters is how I feel about it. And personally I think a taller display is going to be great. Landscape mode will greatly benefit from it. Especially in Safari.

Apple knows what it's doing. This next iPhone is going to be a massive success.

 

[Want300]

Here's how I think it went: Let's go back in time, 2 years ago this October:

Jonathan Ive sits down at his computer after a successful launch of the iPhone 4S. "Hmmm" he says. "That was easy! What shall we do for the iPhone 5?".

Dozens of designers excitedly throw ideas around for a couple of hours.

But Jonathan is in 'the zone' and ignores them. He fires up SolidWorks and stretches the iPhone 4S model so he can plop in another row of icons up top.

"THERE!" he says. "Finished! Who's up for lunch?"

LOL, thats how I feel about it as well. LAZY.

It looks like utter crap. Basically they make the 4s thinner and longer? After the huge step forward from a 3GS --> 4? This is completely incremental and downright uninspiring. Really bad considering their competition.

Two tone back? That's a laughably bad design flaw. Longer without being wider so an extra row of icons can be had? Even worse.

I do not like the two tone back either. My iPhone 4S feels like a solid phone, I like the glass backing. When I had the GS2, it felt cheap and the back cover over the battery fell off too often and it was flimsy cheap plastic. I did not like its design, but I enjoyed the screen.

EDIT: So yea, I would prefer they stick with a glass back casing instead of this two tone aluminum/glass backing.

Yea, having an extra row of icons on the screen... I have no interest or need for that aspect of this phone.

That's okay. Lots of people didn't like the 4/4S design until they actually saw one in person. Just wait.

I will admit I did not like the iPhone 4 when we first saw it after it was left at the bar... But we hadnt seen an iPhone like it yet... It is pretty freaking easy to imagine the 4/4S being 0.5" or so taller, and I do not like it.

 

[batting1000]

You are missing nothing. No matter what changes Apple was going to make to the iPhone, people on this forum were going to find something to bitch about.

If the next iPhone were to be wider, then some people would complain about that. There are plenty of MR members bitching about a taller but not wider iPhone (as is expected to be unveiled).

Honestly, I would just ignore it if I were you. I seriously don't care if others don't like the next iPhone. All that matters is how I feel about it. And personally I think a taller display is going to be great. Landscape mode will greatly benefit from it. Especially in Safari.

Apple knows what it's doing. This next iPhone is going to be a massive success.

Thanks for your thoughts.

 

[hypnoz]

How is that a design flaw? Please, enlighten me as to what Apple didn't figure out.

Your question is invalid because you presuppose that a design flaw entails that Apple "didn't figure something out". That is not what a design flaw logically entails.

It is a design flaw because it serves no purpose to have two different materials on the back, since one material is perfectly sufficient. Using two mars the aesthetic quality Apple is known for. For these two reasons, it is a design flaw (if indeed the rumors are true).

I still think that the two material back designs are just prototypes, since I don't think Apple would actually produce something so shoddy looking.

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Honestly, I would just ignore it if I were you. I seriously don't care if others don't like the next iPhone. All that matters is how I feel about it. And personally I think a taller display is going to be great. Landscape mode will greatly benefit from it. Especially in Safari.

Apple knows what it's doing. This next iPhone is going to be a massive success.

How exactly will landscape mode benefit from a taller display? It will be just as useless as it is now.

If Apple knows what it is doing, it won't make an elongated iPhone since it adds very little value compared to keeping the same display ratio and increasing the size to 4.0 (or whatever they go with).