Without wanting to sound like a total fanboy, you only have to look here, to see how the industry 'disses', but is then quick to emulate most of what Apple does.
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I find that some of the smartest people in the world can not deal with a Ipad
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No. That video just represents the view on the iPad in my real world. A bit exaggerated example of course.
Maybe, but there is lots of valid criticism also. And most of people in the real world are confused what the iPad is supposed to be? A supplement? Maybe you can explain?
Well I´m "people" and the people in my real world want tablets to be more like a computer. Until they won´t buy them. Maybe I and people in my world just don´t get this "supplement" trend that iPad represents at the moment?
If Apple makes products for the real world, then why are everybody avoiding Apple products and buying Windows PCs and Android phones? Apple is still minority brand for "special people", not for "regular people". And I might say even that Apple products are only for dedicated Apple fans. I don´t see the regular people using Apple products.
It´s funny how people who use Apple products think they are the center of the world.
Success maybe in marketing? You could call those TV shop Abtronics whatnot and other cr@p successes too.
I definitely see the potential in iPad, but it just doesn´t yet fullfill my needs. I´m a not technology freak or "regular people". I´m somewhere from the middle.
Without being too much of a jerk, if your view matches that guy, I would probably be quiet about that.
No, most of the people in the real world aren't confused. That's why the iPad is selling like hotcakes.
Then you and your friends should go buy a Windows Tablet PC. There's a ton of them available, because the market has shown for years that people don't actually want that. At all.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. What planet are you living on?
Success maybe in marketing? You could call those TV shop abtronics whatnot and other cr@p successes too.
If any of those products sold in the numbers of the iPad, then yes, they'd be successes. See, that's how you define a success. If it sells, then yes, it's a success.
This "potential" that people speak about -- you speak as if the idea of putting a full computer OS on a tablet hasn't been tried. It has. People don't want it. I don't know how to make it any more clear. The iPad might not be what you want. You might be one of the 15 people that actually wants a tablet PC. In that case, chin up, they're already available!
And if it doesn't fulfil your needs then you are absolutely right not to get one.
For many of us, it does fulfil our needs and we are happily using them.
We are both right in doing this. It is one of those things that there is no right or wrong, just personal preference. The ones who are wrong are the "technology freaks" who say that the iPad is rubbish because it isn't open, or doesn't fulfil their need in some way.
Apple (and other manufacturers) are trying to produce products that offer people what they want to the extent that they buy them. Most manufacturers are successful to different degrees, in this, but they are not all offering the same thing or targetting the same market.
As I said, there is no right or wrong, just preference. Some people like the iPad and some don't. Those that don't could really do with moving on (and calming down in the YouTube guys case) and just enjoying what they want to buy instead.
This thread´s title should be changed to:
I find that most of the people in MacRumors forums cannot deal with the real world opinion about the iPad
Just kidding of course.
I find that most of the people in MacRumors forums cannot deal with the real world opinion about the iPad
Just kidding of course.
I agree.
I just think people who got the iPad are very easily offended by the criticism in the real world out there.
In your world, maybe, but here in London, you can't move for iPhones.
As for the masses 'avoiding Apple products', well, I guess, you're referring to the PC marketshare, which I can't comment on.
Regarding Android's marketshare, when you have x-amount of(high-end and feature) devices on all carriers, numbers will, by default, always be higher, than having only two devices on one(assuming you're in the US), which has nothing to do with the relative pros and cons of either OS.
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Amstrad were incredibly successful in the UK many years ago at selling cheap hifi systems.
I don't know anyone who liked quality music with their proper hi-fi at home would have gone within a million miles of a store selling a nasty Amstrad Hi-Fi system.
Yet, they sold by the bucketful.
Popularity and great sales numbers, does not a great product make.
Hey, the Sinclair Spectum was a fantastically successful home computer, Id guess the biggest selling home computer of them all back in it's day.
Yet again, it was really a steaming pile of poo. a very popular pile of poo with a gigantic software library, but still a pile of poo.
I don't know anyone who liked quality music with their proper hi-fi at home would have gone within a million miles of a store selling a nasty Amstrad Hi-Fi system.
Yet, they sold by the bucketful.
Popularity and great sales numbers, does not a great product make.
Hey, the Sinclair Spectum was a fantastically successful home computer, Id guess the biggest selling home computer of them all back in it's day.
Yet again, it was really a steaming pile of poo. a very popular pile of poo with a gigantic software library, but still a pile of poo.
Smart is relative. In the real world, I am an editor of some pretty important documentation and although the people who write the documentation are considered "smart" by all definitions of the word, their use of their native language is atrocious. I often find myself shaking my head, thinking to myself, "what a dumbass."
As for the iPad being dismissed by "some of the smartest people in the world," I would have to say that being smart does not mean they hold the same opinion of a particular technology that you do. I prefer electric toothbrushes, but my husband does not. Neither makes one of us smarter than the other.
I'm not sure really how this comment fits in with what the OP was saying, I got carsick trying to make sense of the endless run on sentence that was only broken by paragraph spacing.
As for the iPad being dismissed by "some of the smartest people in the world," I would have to say that being smart does not mean they hold the same opinion of a particular technology that you do. I prefer electric toothbrushes, but my husband does not. Neither makes one of us smarter than the other.
I'm not sure really how this comment fits in with what the OP was saying, I got carsick trying to make sense of the endless run on sentence that was only broken by paragraph spacing.
Iam just a P.B.I .type of guy who Army MOS was a M.P. and a P.B.I.with F.O training in the military in my time in the military before i got on a medical in the 90s era ..so i went back to school and learned some things and do a little bit of testing work here and there because i understand how things work in the socallled field setting ..so i go here and there and work on test here and there for the military
I gotten the nick name HillBilly because of a Officer in my first unit was from Northern Area of the Utah used to jokely call my area of the Utah hillbilly heaven because of the area and how it people where clanish and did not take well to outsider and what went on in the area
I think it was Phil Schiller himself who said that there are two ways to look at that statement.
One: "It's nothing more than a big iPhone! Boo!"
Two: "It's like an iPhone... only even bigger! Wow!"
I love my iPad, and use it every day. To be honest though, I'm starting to find it a bit too big. It's certainly not pocketable, so I can't carry it discreetly -- it has to be held in my hands or under my arm unless I've got a backpack or bag I can put it in. Also, it means that when I'm using it, it draws a lot more attention than I would like. I recently was using my iPad and overheard snooty comments about "look at him and his fancy toy! Ooooh!" Which I was very upset about because if you looked around, everyone else around me was using an iPhone, iPod touch, Blackberry, or laptop... yet I was the one that was singled out. I know there's nothing I could have done about that but it was very insulting. It had certainly not been my intention to "wave it around" and if for some reason that's what it looked like to others, then I attribute that to the awkwardly large size. You can't just quietly stick it in a pocket.
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I wonder is that 9 out of 10 people that have used and iPad or 9 out of 10 that think they know what its about?
People on both sides of the debate need to remember that not every device is suited for everybody.
Some devices, obstensibly, are. Pretty much everyone needs a phone, so you could say the iPhone appeals to a very broad audience. Pretty much everyone needs, or at least appreciates the use for, a computer, so you could say the Macs appeal to a very broad audience.
But not everyone needs or wants a tablet. If you need/want one, good -- but remember that there are others who won't appreciate this. If you see absolutely no reason for a tablet to exist, so be it -- but remember that others don't feel the same way.
Personally I have absolutely no use whatsoever for a chainsaw, but that doesn't mean I go around saying how useless they are. Plenty of people rely on them and use them every day.
'My real world'
'The regular people'
Who are these groups? What is 'my real world' versus 'the real world' versus 'the fake world'? You're making up groups based on your anecdotal experience; it's useless to to have this conversation. You've basically told the forum that some dude you know doesn't like the iPad.
Okay, now you are just making things up. Nobody is 'avoiding' Apple products. Terrible.
So what does? Some guy's 'my real world' story? Piggie's evaluation?
I'd attribute it more to novelty factor than size. You mentioned laptops, and laptops are much bigger than iPads, but they don't attract attention because people have gotten used to them. Give it a year or two, and iPads and other tablets with similar form factors would be just as unremarkable.
Well, to be fair, it is true that sometimes the best product doesn't win the popularity race. A less than stellar product beats out a better designed product. In the case of the audio system Piggie mentioned, my guess is price was probably a factor. A product that is "good enough" with a great price can beat a better but more expensive product. Or in the case of Windows vs Macintosh, Windows managed to achieve critical mass quicker, and since compatibility was important, everyone started using Windows because everyone else did.
So it could happen that iOS coasts along on its first-to-market advantage, even if Android is "better." That's just how the market works sometimes.
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