I have a MBP with an i7 processor and there are absolutely downsides. There are so called tweaks and changes that were not documented, and some UI changes that you really just can't get a feel for until you upgrade. The fact that I can't modify my sidebar means that I can't see devices first for example. No one documented that you can't rearrange the order. A small gripe? Not really. Apple sold OS X in the beginning as the completely customizable user interface. Now spaces don't 'track' properly when you switch work spaces, the soviet style, grey everything interface makes it difficult to see things at a glance, and resume is a useless feature for someone like me who uses my computer for work, school, and my personal affairs. If you turn off aspects of this feature in the preferences then, then ctr+opt+cmd won't completely quit an app without loading your previous document by default. There is no work around. You have to save, close every open window, then quit the app for a clean use the next time. I almost never have to re-open an app for the same project twice in a consecutive period in a work day. I waited for Lion without pirating a preview copy of it, and like a little MacHead I paid the $29 for the upgrade, and now It takes nearly twice as long to do the same amount of work and I have to spend the time to back up everything and downgrade and I don't think a refund will come my way either. I have spent thousands of dollars of the past few years with apple and much more than that since my first OS 6 machine. The most disappointing OS X to date.
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I got a refund on lion
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I have a MBP with an i7 processor and there are absolutely downsides. There are so called tweaks and changes that were not documented, and some UI changes that you really just can't get a feel for until you upgrade. The fact that I can't modify my sidebar means that I can't see devices first for example. No one documented that you can't rearrange the order. A small gripe? Not really. Apple sold OS X in the beginning as the completely customizable user interface. Now spaces don't 'track' properly when you switch work spaces, the soviet style, grey everything interface makes it difficult to see things at a glance, and resume is a useless feature for someone like me who uses my computer for work, school, and my personal affairs. If you turn off aspects of this feature in the preferences then, then ctr+opt+cmd won't completely quit an app without loading your previous document by default. There is no work around. You have to save, close every open window, then quit the app for a clean use the next time. I almost never have to re-open an app for the same project twice in a consecutive period in a work day. I waited for Lion without pirating a preview copy of it, and like a little MacHead I paid the $29 for the upgrade, and now It takes nearly twice as long to do the same amount of work and I have to spend the time to back up everything and downgrade and I don't think a refund will come my way either. I have spent thousands of dollars of the past few years with apple and much more than that since my first OS 6 machine. The most disappointing OS X to date.
Does it really slow the machine down? I put it on my Blackbook, which, when I retired it a month or two ago was a year beyond it's EOL, and while I haven't done much with that machine, it, at a cursory glance, doesn't seem any slower than it was before.
I think it's funny to see people jumping off the Lion ship. It was a little quirky for me at first, but after a nice reboot, it has been running nice and solid since, plus a lot of great new features. Even natural scrolling feels natural, 4 days later.
Lion is not a good OS, yet.
It feels extremely rushed and pushed out the door. Why would they do that!?
The multiple desktop's seems poorly done.
Stupid. I do like most of it. I think with all updates that come will make it much better.
It feels extremely rushed and pushed out the door. Why would they do that!?
The multiple desktop's seems poorly done.
Stupid. I do like most of it. I think with all updates that come will make it much better.
I guess I must be one of the very few people who genuinely enjoy Lion then.
-Natural scrolling is stupid - turned that off
-Launchpad is useless - ignored that completely
-Mission Control is quite useful
-"Resume" is not a problem to me yet, probably because I don't use Safari. Oh and you can quit and discard by Opt+Cmd+Q anyways
-Saving the workspace layout when restarting works for me
-Animations seem sluggish at first (especially when switches spaces), but now it is completely smoothly. Probably done indexing.
-Cut and paste (finally!)
-Best part: cheap ($30)
There is really nothing bad that you can't turn off easily. Don't understand why people are complaining.
-Natural scrolling is stupid - turned that off
-Launchpad is useless - ignored that completely
-Mission Control is quite useful
-"Resume" is not a problem to me yet, probably because I don't use Safari. Oh and you can quit and discard by Opt+Cmd+Q anyways
-Saving the workspace layout when restarting works for me
-Animations seem sluggish at first (especially when switches spaces), but now it is completely smoothly. Probably done indexing.
-Cut and paste (finally!)
-Best part: cheap ($30)
There is really nothing bad that you can't turn off easily. Don't understand why people are complaining.
I want to get a refund, since Lion does not work with ATI 2600 HD cards (in iMac 2008), especially since waking from sleep. I will be happy to use Snow Leopard for the rest of the life of this computer. Comp came with Leopard, I purchased SL, I purchased Lion and now I'm back on SL. I reinstalled SL and computer is usable again. How do I get a refund? I don't see any options in the app store?
i got a refund too
I have a 2009 iMac running Snow Leopard, and I have a Windows share set up. I also have an XP machine because some of my development tools (PCB layout, embedded compiler, etc) only run under Windows, and the Mac version of Quickbooks is complete crap. So those all run on the XP machine, and I have a Windows login script that mounts the Mac share at boot, and it's wonderful. I don't keep anything on the XP machine, all my work files are hosted off the Mac, they get backed up hourly by Time Machine, and once a week I use Carbon Copy Cloner to make a separate backup. I didn't used to be this paranoid, but a couple years ago I had a HD failure on the XP machine, I'd lost a couple weeks of invoicable work. It was not a good situation. So I am super happy with this setup. I am totally dependent on the ability of the XP machine to mount the Mac share.
I recently dumped my Droid X and got an iPhone 4S, and I upgraded my iPad2 to iOS5. So I wanted to upgrade to Lion mostly to start taking advantage of iCloud. Immediately after upgrading I realized that Windows networking was very badly broken. Maybe you guys follow this stuff more closely than I do. When I started Googling I immediately learned about Apple getting rid of SMB because of GPL3 license issues, and rolling their own (SMBX), and in the process completely breaking legacy Windows networking.
Fortunately, I'd cloned my Mac HD right before the upgrade so it was easy to revert back to Snow Leopard, and I opened a trouble ticket at Apple Support asking for a refund, which they granted without any problems.
So that's all good.
I am not in any huge rush, but I realize that the sun will eventually set on both Snow Leopard and XP, so I'll need to figure out some sort of migration path going forward.
I have a 2009 iMac running Snow Leopard, and I have a Windows share set up. I also have an XP machine because some of my development tools (PCB layout, embedded compiler, etc) only run under Windows, and the Mac version of Quickbooks is complete crap. So those all run on the XP machine, and I have a Windows login script that mounts the Mac share at boot, and it's wonderful. I don't keep anything on the XP machine, all my work files are hosted off the Mac, they get backed up hourly by Time Machine, and once a week I use Carbon Copy Cloner to make a separate backup. I didn't used to be this paranoid, but a couple years ago I had a HD failure on the XP machine, I'd lost a couple weeks of invoicable work. It was not a good situation. So I am super happy with this setup. I am totally dependent on the ability of the XP machine to mount the Mac share.
I recently dumped my Droid X and got an iPhone 4S, and I upgraded my iPad2 to iOS5. So I wanted to upgrade to Lion mostly to start taking advantage of iCloud. Immediately after upgrading I realized that Windows networking was very badly broken. Maybe you guys follow this stuff more closely than I do. When I started Googling I immediately learned about Apple getting rid of SMB because of GPL3 license issues, and rolling their own (SMBX), and in the process completely breaking legacy Windows networking.
Fortunately, I'd cloned my Mac HD right before the upgrade so it was easy to revert back to Snow Leopard, and I opened a trouble ticket at Apple Support asking for a refund, which they granted without any problems.
So that's all good.
I am not in any huge rush, but I realize that the sun will eventually set on both Snow Leopard and XP, so I'll need to figure out some sort of migration path going forward.
Unless you were really tight on cash, I wouldn't have asked for a refund and I'm one of the most adamant about how Lion is a load of rubbish at the moment.
It's inevitable that Apple will get it right, but unlike Microsoft who actually does a great job keeping people informed as to when certain things are going to be resolved, Apple keeps you in the dark so you never know when your issue with Lion is seriously being taken care of.
It's inevitable that Apple will get it right, but unlike Microsoft who actually does a great job keeping people informed as to when certain things are going to be resolved, Apple keeps you in the dark so you never know when your issue with Lion is seriously being taken care of.
I see this post as mostly an epic fail. You are reporting a problem that does not exist. Expose' is still there, but has changed. Don't see how you could of missed this considering Apple themselves posted that information about the new version of expose' long before it was released.
Then you go on to tell about other problems you failed to mention.
I find the new Expose' even faster to finding open windows as it groups it by application.
Then you go on to tell about other problems you failed to mention.
I find the new Expose' even faster to finding open windows as it groups it by application.
It's not about expose. It's about bugs in the OS that make the computer unusable to me. Apple does not have a million configurations to test when releasing new OS, in this case they failed.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3198002?start=0&tstart=0