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No one isn't saying the 6 isn't noticeably faster, the point is that the performance difference between the 5S and 6 is a lot smaller than the difference between the 4S and 5S which is the opposite of what your original post claimed.

Fair enough, although I think the speed difference between the 5S and 6 is bigger than some have acknowledged here.
 
The 5/5S/6 are all very close when it comes to 'real world' speed, ie opening apps and loading websites etc. Sure the benchmarks are different but nobody should be able to keep a straight face whilst saying that their iPhone 6 opens apps way faster than an iPhone 5, let alone a 5S. Yes the i6 is faster, and so it should be...but "a good deal faster"? Nah. The speed increases are negligible. It's the screen size they're selling this time 'round and the other hardware is actually lacking in any major improvements.
 
All of them, but specifically the ones that I use most - Facebook, Twitter, Chase, Weather Channel, and eBay.

With the exception of Chase (since I don't use them and therefore it wouldn;t load any meaningful information) I loaded all of those. The 5S was a split second slower than the 6 or 6S. Certainly not 1-2 seconds. Of course, various setups can cause various performances.

Anyway, glad you are having a better experiencing with your newer device. Just don't go claiming people are ridiculous for not noticing a difference. I believe you see a difference, I am just not experiencing the same results as you.

One thing to note is that all devices are on 8.1 (the plus is on 8.1.1)
 
I would say the 5S is closer in speed to the 4S the 6. I'm seriously thinking about going back to the 6 now, it really was lightning fast. Could it be because I'm running 7.1.2?

Wrong. 4s doesn't hold a candle to 5s. I'm sorry but 5s is a beast of a phone. It's the best iPhone besides the 6 series hands down. Hell it would be even arguable that it's better than vs the 6 series.
 
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With the exception of Chase (since I don't use them and therefore it wouldn;t load any meaningful information) I loaded all of those. The 5S was a split second slower than the 6 or 6S. Certainly not 1-2 seconds. Of course, various setups can cause various performances.

Anyway, glad you are having a better experiencing with your newer device. Just don't go claiming people are ridiculous for not noticing a difference. I believe you see a difference, I am just not experiencing the same results as you.

One thing to note is that all devices are on 8.1 (the plus is on 8.1.1)
Ya that's true it could be different for everyone, sorry. I wonder how this would run on 8.1?
 
I think someone is just excited about a new purchase. In the real world the 6 is NOT that much faster. And the 5S is certainly not anywhere near 4S performance levels.

This statement is right on! I went from a 5S to a 6 and it is not a huge leap in real world performance. I was perfectly happy with my 5S and am happy with the 6.

The battery life, in my unscientific testing, seems a bit better as well. One caveat on that, is I work from home now and not in an office so my signal strength is better and I'm on wifi all day.
 
bottom line is, the 5s can easily be the 6 series phone. if you look at the side by side comparison, all it's missing is NFC, form factor, battery etc. A7 to A8 is only a 25% bump.
 
bottom line is, the 5s can easily be the 6 series phone. if you look at the side by side comparison, all it's missing is NFC, form factor, battery etc. A7 to A8 is only a 25% bump.

Absolutely. If you put the 5S innards in an iPhone 6 casing, and added NFC, nobody would notice the difference.
 
Absolutely. If you put the 5S innards in an iPhone 6 casing, and added NFC, nobody would notice the difference.

yea man, I've always assumed in my head that 5s is just a prototype for the 6 series LOL.

people ask my opinion all the time and I tell people that if they're not getting the 6 series phones, get the 5S and call it a day. LOL.
 
bottom line is, the 5s can easily be the 6 series phone. if you look at the side by side comparison, all it's missing is NFC, form factor, battery etc. A7 to A8 is only a 25% bump.

25% in CPU and 50% GPU, and 6 can sustain the performance. That is not insignificant in benchmark world. In real world, it's not a huge difference (nor is the difference between 5 and 5s.)
 
testing side by side with wifes 5s, virtually no difference in performance with the 6 in terms of speed. ios 8 definitely more glitchy on the 5s though.

you can even see several comparison between the two on youtube, virtually no difference in real world use. I had the 5s previously and was slightly disappointed real world usage felt the same.
 
I just returned the 6 for the 5S due to size/comfort. After being told there was no noticeable difference in speed I expected it to be a perfect fit. It's definitely faster than the 4S but it's also definitely not as fast as the 6. Not even close. The 6 was almost instant in app loading.


Anyone else thinks Apple should come up with an "iPhone 6c" next year; basically the same screen size as the 5/5c/5s, but with iPhone 6 CPU power, NFC, camera, etc.?

There are some people who DO like the smaller form factor, as proven here, and would probably totally love such a phone.

Sadly I don't think it will happen, though, and that Apple will just milk the 5s design for a couple more years before quietly killing it off like the 4s.
 
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Anyone else thinks Apple should come up with an "iPhone 6c" next year; basically the same screen size as the 5/5c/5s, but with iPhone 6 CPU power, NFC, camera, etc.?



There are some people who DO like the smaller form factor, as proven here, and would probably totally love such a phone.


The very idea of this makes me jump for joy. However, I think they'd be more likely to take the 5s innards as that device is already a 4'. I still have my 5c and I absolutely love that device. I bought a 5s to retire my 5c recently and know what I did?

Bought a rubber case and colored tempered glass to turn my 5s into a 5c with better specs pretty much.

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Absolutely. If you put the 5S innards in an iPhone 6 casing, and added NFC, nobody would notice the difference.

That's ridiculous, that's fine if you think the difference is negligible but it's definitely noticeable. The 6 loads apps a solid click faster than the 5S.

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testing side by side with wifes 5s, virtually no difference in performance with the 6 in terms of speed. ios 8 definitely more glitchy on the 5s though.

you can even see several comparison between the two on youtube, virtually no difference in real world use. I had the 5s previously and was slightly disappointed real world usage felt the same.

Maybe it's bc I'm running 7.1.2.
 
Maybe it's bc I'm running 7.1.2.

I mean for a proper comparison test they should first be on the same OS, no? Also they should be tested directly after a fully clean restore if you really want to get technical about it. Otherwise you are just cherry picking two random phone states and saying "this one is faster". Which is fine for your personal use, but if you come on to a forum with that claim, at least try to have some proper testing behind it.
 
I mean for a proper comparison test they should first be on the same OS, no? Also they should be tested directly after a fully clean restore if you really want to get technical about it. Otherwise you are just cherry picking two random phone states and saying "this one is faster". Which is fine for your personal use, but if you come on to a forum with that claim, at least try to have some proper testing behind it.

I assumed they would both run their fastest on the prime version of the software that was written specifically for them, no? I have heard multiple people say newer software slows down older hardware usually.

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7.1.2 is even faster.

Exactly, so it's the ideal settings to compare them under
 
Absolutely. If you put the 5S innards in an iPhone 6 casing, and added NFC, nobody would notice the difference.

"Nobody"? The 5s graphics operate at half the resolution of the 6/6 Plus (the 6 processes the graphics at a higher resolution than its on-screen screen, then rescales it). Blowing that up to 4.7" might be a bit noticeable. Not to mention, the A7 consumes twice as much power as the A8, so the battery life would also likely take a hit.
 
That's ridiculous, that's fine if you think the difference is negligible but it's definitely noticeable. The 6 loads apps a solid click faster than the 5S.

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Maybe it's bc I'm running 7.1.2.

It probably depends on what you're running and how you're connected (if relevant). At one point this fall I had a 5, a 5S and two 6s (plural, not S) running. I don't do anything very demanding with the phones. I wouldn't have said the difference between the 5 and 5S or between the 5S and the 6 was all that noticeable in real life. I never did a strict A/B side by side test. For many purposes I would say that the differences are probably measurable, not all that meaningful - but that's an opinion and YMMV.
 
Anyone else thinks Apple should come up with an "iPhone 6c" next year; basically the same screen size as the 5/5c/5s, but with iPhone 6 CPU power, NFC, camera, etc.?

There are some people who DO like the smaller form factor, as proven here, and would probably totally love such a phone.

Sadly I don't think it will happen, though, and that Apple will just milk the 5s design for a couple more years before quietly killing it off like the 4s.

I'd love to see, but I doubt we will.

I've said all along that the 5c was a supply chain play, designed to remove production bottlenecks and lower costs. With the 5 and 5s in production simultaneously, Apple would have had a production bottleneck with two models requiring the same CNC-machined aluminum shell. The lower-than-expected yields on the aluminum shells created more severe supply shortages than normal when the 5 launched. Going to molded plastic and stamped steel innards for the 5c and focusing all of the aluminum shells on the 5s eliminated this bottleneck.

The overlapping production issue crops up again next year with the 6s, although I haven't heard of any issues regarding yields on the aluminum shells for the 6. Still, it would not surprise me to see a plastic bodied 6c show up. But, I would guess that any 6c model would share the 4.7" screen size.
 
From what I have seen, the 5S was ahead of its time and overpowered for what it needed to do (CPU/GPU-wise)..the only performance drawback could arguably be the 1GB RAM.

The 6 specs are just good enough for it to run smoothly and the 6+ struggles.

In summary, I think the 5S will go down as one of the most future-proof iPhones ever.
 
From what I have seen, the 5S was ahead of its time and overpowered for what it needed to do (CPU/GPU-wise)..the only performance drawback could arguably be the 1GB RAM.

The 6 specs are just good enough for it to run smoothly and the 6+ struggles.

In summary, I think the 5S will go down as one of the most future-proof iPhones ever.

Yep. I think Apple put a lot into the A7 specifically so that they could accelerate the 64-bit platform migration. With the A7 maintaining full compatibility with Swift, Metal, and all the new extensions, the 5s seems to have a huge line in the sand, especially with Apple mandating 64-bit support in all apps submitted to the App Store after February 2015.

On the current go-round, Apple really focused on reducing the power consumption from the CPU, basically to make up for the larger and higher res screens. If Apple follows its current pattern, the next generation will redesign the chip architecture and have a larger performance gain.
 
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