Ok done that..thanks! If I were to delete the photos in the iPhoto app- I have them on finder now..will they delete from finder also?
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I hate iphoto!!!!!!!!!!
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Ok done that..thanks! If I were to delete the photos in the iPhoto app- I have them on finder now..will they delete from finder also?
When you keep your original photo's outside iPhoto's database, The original files do not get deleted, they only get removed from iPhoto's database. Any edited files will get deleted as these will be kept inside the iPhoto database. This is another point any changes you make to the photos will not be made to your original files in the folders held externally to iPhoto. This is because iPhoto never makes any changes to the original photo, it will create a copy in its database when you edit it. The App will always allow you to revert to the original, to do that it must keep a copy of the original.
Actually, more sad than funny. Numerous posts from others have proven that you are ignorant of the way the product works, and was intended to work. Many were posters who were trying to help you understand how iPhoto really works. Yet you continue to belligerently tilt at anyone and everyone who responds to you. I don't have the energy. Go pound your fists on your keyboard. I'll get on with my life.
BTW: My statement about the $1300 was more rhetorical than anything. I have no need for your computer, since I own (and am perfectly happy with) multiple Macs. But I would never give anyone that close to full retail for a used machine.
Such a Windows and old-fashioned way of thinking, but whatever trips his trigger.
There is, by putting people on your ignore list. Since you don't want my help, though, I'll let you figure out how that works. Enjoy!
iPhoto...
I typically only use iPhoto to import my photos then transfer them to a folder. After the transfer they are deleted from iPhoto... I do not like the application myself...
I typically only use iPhoto to import my photos then transfer them to a folder. After the transfer they are deleted from iPhoto... I do not like the application myself...
You can use the image capture app instead if your going to do that. It will import them directly into a folder.
Finally someone who agrees LOL I just did the same actually, now I have to go through all of them and organize them!
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There is, by putting people on your ignore list. Since you don't want my help, though, I'll let you figure out how that works. Enjoy!
That is the best advice you actually gave. Done and Done!
It looks like you've already moved your pictures from iPhoto, but for future reference, I'm pretty sure there's also a menu option to export photos to a folder.
Personally, I find that iPhoto is very cumbersome as well. In my experience, when you have a large library (30k+, 150GB on my wife's computer) it takes a very long time to open and close. Organization and viewing are very nice in iPhoto, but I'd rather have have RAW access to the files instead of a monolithic database (which can get corrupted or have speed issues).
Since I don't take that many pictures myself, I find that I can manage them just as well using Dropbox and Lightroom. And I've gone ahead and removed iPhoto from my system.
Personally, I find that iPhoto is very cumbersome as well. In my experience, when you have a large library (30k+, 150GB on my wife's computer) it takes a very long time to open and close. Organization and viewing are very nice in iPhoto, but I'd rather have have RAW access to the files instead of a monolithic database (which can get corrupted or have speed issues).
Since I don't take that many pictures myself, I find that I can manage them just as well using Dropbox and Lightroom. And I've gone ahead and removed iPhoto from my system.
Use "Image Capture"
Why don't you use Image Capture?
Press Command and the Space bar to open Spotlight.
Type in Image, "Image Capture" will default, press Return to open it.
Plug in your iPhone/iPad, the pictures will show up.
At the very bottom left of Image Capture, click the "up arrow" icon.
For "Connecting this iPhone/iPad opens", select "Image Capture".
Click"delete after import" if you want to remove the pictures/videos from your iPhone/iPad after import.
Then at the bottom of the Image Capture window, in the "Import To" option, select the folder you want the photos to go to.
Click "Import All" at the bottom right, or select the pictures/videos and click "Import". If you select Import All and you've already copied some of the photos from your iPhone/iPad to the computer, they will not be duplicated. So I always choose "Select all"!
You're done forever, no more iPhoto, your pictures go to the Desktop or any Folder you want.
Why don't you use Image Capture?
Press Command and the Space bar to open Spotlight.
Type in Image, "Image Capture" will default, press Return to open it.
Plug in your iPhone/iPad, the pictures will show up.
At the very bottom left of Image Capture, click the "up arrow" icon.
For "Connecting this iPhone/iPad opens", select "Image Capture".
Click"delete after import" if you want to remove the pictures/videos from your iPhone/iPad after import.
Then at the bottom of the Image Capture window, in the "Import To" option, select the folder you want the photos to go to.
Click "Import All" at the bottom right, or select the pictures/videos and click "Import". If you select Import All and you've already copied some of the photos from your iPhone/iPad to the computer, they will not be duplicated. So I always choose "Select all"!
You're done forever, no more iPhoto, your pictures go to the Desktop or any Folder you want.
So, what platters and sectors are you photos located?
Ive said it before, and Ill say it again. Use iPhoto to ORGANIZE your photos. And the key to organizing your photos is Faces, Places, Keywords, and Ratings.
But you like folder structures, you say. Well, what is a folder structure other than a graphical representation of a database that tracks your photos as bits on your hard drive. Using folders doesn't tell you where your bits are. On the Mac, the bits are converted to a graphical representation (folders and files) by an application called the Finder. The whole idea behind the Finder is to help you keep track of your files (or photos in this case). And the idea works pretty well if you don't have too many files. But after a while, it doesn't matter how organized you are, you still have to remember the paths to your files, or increasingly improve your organization over time as you add files and folders. Enter Aperture and iPhoto.
With the advent of digital photography, the number of files (i.e. photos) on our computers has increased exponentially. I have over 25,000 photos on my Mac, and I'm not even an avid photographer! How could anyone manage that many photos in any useful manner using a folder structure? And by useful, I mean more than store them on your computer and never look at them again. The simple answer is, you can't.
If your only goal is to transfer you photos to your computer, file them by date, and then never use them again, then, yes, you can successfully use a folder structure. But, for example, if your wife's birthday is coming up and you want to show every 4 and/or 5 star photo she is in, then a folder structure simply fails. Heres another example: your anniversary is coming up, and you want to create a slideshow with every 5 star photo that contains the two of you. Will a folder structure help with that? Or, youre hosting a dinner party and you want something to occupy that big-screen TV in your living room. Can a folder structure help you find every good photo that contains at least one of your guests? Nope.
So, what can you do? The answer is easy: Faces, Places, Keywords, and Ratings! It takes a bit of work, but if you want to do anything with your photos other than file them away, then the work is well worth the reward.
Here is how I go about using these tools:
Ive said it before, and Ill say it again. Use iPhoto to ORGANIZE your photos. And the key to organizing your photos is Faces, Places, Keywords, and Ratings.
But you like folder structures, you say. Well, what is a folder structure other than a graphical representation of a database that tracks your photos as bits on your hard drive. Using folders doesn't tell you where your bits are. On the Mac, the bits are converted to a graphical representation (folders and files) by an application called the Finder. The whole idea behind the Finder is to help you keep track of your files (or photos in this case). And the idea works pretty well if you don't have too many files. But after a while, it doesn't matter how organized you are, you still have to remember the paths to your files, or increasingly improve your organization over time as you add files and folders. Enter Aperture and iPhoto.
With the advent of digital photography, the number of files (i.e. photos) on our computers has increased exponentially. I have over 25,000 photos on my Mac, and I'm not even an avid photographer! How could anyone manage that many photos in any useful manner using a folder structure? And by useful, I mean more than store them on your computer and never look at them again. The simple answer is, you can't.
If your only goal is to transfer you photos to your computer, file them by date, and then never use them again, then, yes, you can successfully use a folder structure. But, for example, if your wife's birthday is coming up and you want to show every 4 and/or 5 star photo she is in, then a folder structure simply fails. Heres another example: your anniversary is coming up, and you want to create a slideshow with every 5 star photo that contains the two of you. Will a folder structure help with that? Or, youre hosting a dinner party and you want something to occupy that big-screen TV in your living room. Can a folder structure help you find every good photo that contains at least one of your guests? Nope.
So, what can you do? The answer is easy: Faces, Places, Keywords, and Ratings! It takes a bit of work, but if you want to do anything with your photos other than file them away, then the work is well worth the reward.
Here is how I go about using these tools:
- Import photos.
- Delete junk.
- Set Keywords. I try to keep my keyword list to a minimum. For example, I have a keyword for Vacation, but I dont use keywords for the location of the vacation (thats taken care of with the Places feature). Another example: I have a keyword for Birthday, but I dont have keywords for the person or the year (those are taken care of with the Faces feature, and the fact that all the photos are dated already).
- Rate the best as 4 or 5 stars, and if I need to keep a bad photo for some reason, I rate it as 1 star.
- Name the Faces. I only do this with the people I care about and delete the box around people that I dont care about (this prevents them from showing up as suggestions when youre viewing a persons photos).
- Set the location. This is very important for travel photos, but is also handy for others as well. If you want a really good reason to set the travel photos, pick a trip, do the work of setting the location of each photo, and then start the Travel slide show. The Travel slide show is really cool!
- I have a smart album the contains all photos of my daughter that Ive rated as 5 starts. This album is automatically synched to my iPhone, my wifes iPhone, my iPad, and our AppleTV. Every time I import a photo into iPhoto and mark my daughters face and rate the photo as five stars, the photo is automatically sent to all our devices when we synch. Super easy!
- I have smart albums with Christmas photos for each branch of our family. So, when someone comes over for the holidays, I can easily show that part of the familys Christmas photos on the TV. We dont just sit around and watch the slide show all night, but the photos are there if people want to look and they add a nice touch to an otherwise empty sheet of dark glass.
Use Xee and Finder
I use Xee to view and Finder to organise. This was all discussed in this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1361782/
I use Xee to view and Finder to organise. This was all discussed in this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1361782/
Plain folders is what most people want...
Actually I'd venture to say that for 90+% of people, that's just what "we" want to do. Put them on the computer with an easy to remember folder structure with the hope that some day we'll go back and organize them. We just don't have the time to do what you're doing.
I have 8mm videos in my closet that are waiting to be digitized, I have LP records that are waiting to be converted too. I did take the time last year to convert my 2000+ photo slides to jpg... took me a while!
My photos organization is pretty simple: a folder for the year, a folder for the month, and a folder for the event, the latter being somewhat descriptive (ex: 2013-08-27-Mom Birthday).
And I know all my photos are there, in their original format, with their original "created" date. I mention that because iPhoto will by default move the photos to its own - invisible - library and when you want to copy a picture from iPhoto, you can't easily go to the master. Most people will drag and drop photos (or export) to a folder or external USB to give to their friends, and then realize that the original "Creation date" has been altered to TODAY!
Actually I'd venture to say that for 90+% of people, that's just what "we" want to do. Put them on the computer with an easy to remember folder structure with the hope that some day we'll go back and organize them. We just don't have the time to do what you're doing.
I have 8mm videos in my closet that are waiting to be digitized, I have LP records that are waiting to be converted too. I did take the time last year to convert my 2000+ photo slides to jpg... took me a while!
My photos organization is pretty simple: a folder for the year, a folder for the month, and a folder for the event, the latter being somewhat descriptive (ex: 2013-08-27-Mom Birthday).
And I know all my photos are there, in their original format, with their original "created" date. I mention that because iPhoto will by default move the photos to its own - invisible - library and when you want to copy a picture from iPhoto, you can't easily go to the master. Most people will drag and drop photos (or export) to a folder or external USB to give to their friends, and then realize that the original "Creation date" has been altered to TODAY!
As an organizer/viewer, iPhoto is fine. Where I have the problem is where iPhoto wants to copy your files into a huge monolithic database. Databases get corrupted and/or become slow to open when the are filled with too many files. And yet, iPhoto insists on behaving this way. While I realize that you can keep iPhoto from moving files into the database, the default behavior is to move them. A very small percentage of people will choose to change the default behavior.
Compare and contrast this with how even iTunes behaves. Yes, iTunes moves the files into it's own folder structure, but it's easy to see your actual files. You can still organize the songs into playlists, rate them, edit them (start & stop time). But at no point is there a monolithic iTunes Library file containing all of the metadata and your files.
For another example, look at Picasa on the PC. It behaves almost identically to iPhoto on the Mac. It does face detection, places, albums, keywords, ratings and non-destructive editing (via saved copy like iPhoto). Yet it doesn't insist on usurping control over your photos. In fact, it will gladly watch folders for you and offer to add them to Picasa.
Lightroom and Adobe bridge are great for managing photos and have options for metadata, keywords, rating and faces. Lightroom will allow you to leave the pictures in their folder structure upon import, and as far as I know, Bridge doesn't even have import options.
In my opinion, iPhoto is a such a huge mess that I don't even want to deal with it one bit.
What an interesting topic. And I always thought that apps like iPhoto should automatically discover every document suitable to them on every piece of storage connected to the Mac and make them accessible via their library interface without touching the actual file on the file system.
Oh well, la-di-da, la-di-da, la-la. Yeah.
Oh well, la-di-da, la-di-da, la-la. Yeah.
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Not really sure why you aren't organizing them in iPhoto as that is what it was made for, but whatever that's your choice.
Close iPhoto if it is open
Find the file in your pictures folder and 'right click' or control+click the file icon
Pick 'show package contents'
Find the folder marked either masters or originals (I forget what iPhoto calls it but it's one of those).
Right click it again and duplicate. Move duplicate out to wherever in the finder you like. I recommend not the desktop as that can have weird effects on computer.
Close iPhoto library. Once you are sure you have all your photos and can open them, you are safe to trash the library file for good
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iPhoto wasn't designed for huge libraries, RAW etc. For that, the notion is that you would use Aperture.
Maybe so, but the lag is definitely an issue for some people and it has to do with the way iPhoto was designed; which is exactly my point.
In any case, I don't care for the way iPhoto works, so I've found alternative solutions that work for me.
image capture.
Well after all my years of owning my mac. I never found this solution to my problem! That should be much easier to accomplish my task of importing. Thank you!
Well after all my years of owning my mac. I never found this solution to my problem! That should be much easier to accomplish my task of importing. Thank you!
I've never understood how some people have such a problem with way iPhoto organizes images. (I do understand that iPhoto can issues with very large libraries - in which case you could move Aperture without ever having reorganize anything... however....)
There is nothing to stop someone from creating Albums and Folders that mimic the way they are used to working - old-fashioned as it is. From there they could start to add the power of keywords, and Smart Albums.
As for the risk of a corrupted database - well that is why you back up. If you aren't backing up your images... then why worry about the database. And if you are backing up your images then you are backing up your database.
There is, of course, a change in the way you have to think when you move to a database for organizing your images, but once that little hump is overcome the power of the database far outweighs the few downsides.
all of this imho, of course... But in my experience virtually everyone who resists moving to a database system (iPhoto, Aperture, Lightroom, Capture One) do so because they just don't quite understand it. YMMV
There is nothing to stop someone from creating Albums and Folders that mimic the way they are used to working - old-fashioned as it is. From there they could start to add the power of keywords, and Smart Albums.
As for the risk of a corrupted database - well that is why you back up. If you aren't backing up your images... then why worry about the database. And if you are backing up your images then you are backing up your database.
There is, of course, a change in the way you have to think when you move to a database for organizing your images, but once that little hump is overcome the power of the database far outweighs the few downsides.
all of this imho, of course... But in my experience virtually everyone who resists moving to a database system (iPhoto, Aperture, Lightroom, Capture One) do so because they just don't quite understand it. YMMV
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