I HATE safari 4!!! How do I change it?!

[motulist]

Probably via Terminal like many other things in OS X.

http://www.macosxtips.co.uk/index_files/12-tips-for-safari-4-beta.html

Hopefully this debug stuff still works in final.

Thanks, I tried a couple of those and they don't seem to have any effect. I wonder if Apple removed the commands completely, or if they just changed the name of commands for the final release. Is there some site that might have updated info on these terminal commands?

EDIT: reading through the comments on the page you linked to shows that other people are reporting the same thing, that these commands do not work on the official release version of safari 4.

 

[Cinder6]

Okay, I appreciate everyone's input, but we are WAY off topic here, and none of what this thread's topic was asking has been discussed. This isn't a thread about which browser is best, this is a thread about how to make adjustments to the way safari 4 works.

Specifically:

- How can I change the way safari's page-loading message is displayed?

- How do I change it so that simply typing any letter on my keyboard doesn't open up the "find" text search field?

Thing is, you can't. That's why people are recommending other browsers: because you can't make Safari do what you want it to.

 

[motulist]

Thing is, you can't. That's why people are recommending other browsers: because you can't make Safari do what you want it to.

Listen, just because YOU don't know how to do it, doesn't mean it can't be done. It WAS possible to do these things in the beta version of safari 4 using terminal commands to change unpublished preference settings, so there's absolutely no reason to presume that those functions are gone instead of just re-hidden. In fact, you don't seem to even know that Safari can do a LOT of stuff that isn't an official function of the software, and there are tons of extra features you can add to safari using add-on software like Glims and AdBlock. So again, please keep this discussion on topic. Lots of these things can be done. If you don't know how to do them, then please don't go around claiming that they can't be done.

 

[miles01110]

so there's absolutely no reason to presume that those functions are gone instead of just re-hidden.

So go look for them yourself?

Lots of these things can be done.

Apparently not.

 

[adamfishercox]

- How do I change it so that simply typing any letter on my keyboard doesn't open up the "find" text search field?

This doesn't even happen.... and neither do favicons appear in tabs. You sound like you're describing Firefox, which does both.

 

[RHD]

I was going to download Safari 4 but then it said it needed something like 350MB of disk space.

FOR A BROWSER??? !!!

Am I just really old or does that seem a bit much?

I've got graphics apps I've paid money for that take less disk space. It's not that I haven't got it, it's just that I want an explanation of what all that's doing first.

 

[motulist]

This doesn't even happen....

It does on my safari 4. Maybe it's the default setting for one of the many settings that glims adds to safari. ... Yup, I just looked, that was a feature option added by glims. I unchecked the box in the glims preference pane and it turned that feature off. Thanks!

 

[Eidorian]

It does on my safari 4. Maybe it's the default setting for one of the many settings that glims adds to safari. ... Yup, I just looked, that was a feature option added by glims. I unchecked the box in the glims preference pane and it turned that feature off. Thanks!

My tabs in Safari don't show favicons either. I have a fresh Leopard system too with no Terminal hacks that doesn't do it either.

Can you post a screen shot?

 

[motulist]

My tabs in Safari don't show favicons either. I have a fresh Leopard system too with no Terminal hacks that doesn't do it either.

Can you post a screen shot?

Oops, I should've updated this thread about that. I figured out quite a while ago that that was also a feature that glims adds by default that you have to uncheck the box for. The only reason why I'm even using glims is so that I can turn off the suggestions in safari's google text search field. I absolutely abhor search suggestions popping up while I'm trying to type.

 

[RMo]

Okay, I appreciate everyone's input, but we are WAY off topic here, and none of what this thread's topic was asking has been discussed. This isn't a thread about which browser is best, this is a thread about how to make adjustments to the way safari 4 works.

Specifically:

- How can I change the way safari's page-loading message is displayed?

- How do I change it so that simply typing any letter on my keyboard doesn't open up the "find" text search field?

As Eidorian suggested, there were tips that worked during the beta period to tweak some of the things you want; they may still work.

Other than that, I don't know why you are asking to make these changes under the assumption that they are all possible. Apple likes to include sensible defaults and at least some configuration via preferences, but when you can't do it that way you're often out of luck (although you can occasionally change undocumented preferences at the command line--no guarantees for future compatibility, though). That is probably why so many people have been suggesting alternatives, like Firefox, to you--it's open-source and there are tons of add-ons available to customize it however you like, not to mention you could write your own (or kindly ask ).

This isn't a suggestion to switch. Stay with Safari if that's what you like, but you may just have to deal with the different behavior of the new version if there's no way to customize it to your liking. (But if you don't like it...)

 

[motulist]

Woo hoo! I did it! I got rid of the annoying flashy loading icon! I didn't replace it with the old loading bar, but that's fine, the main thing I wanted was to not have that distracting and annoying high contrast animated icon flashing on and off every time I loaded a page. The only thing I see now is a faint outline of the word loading, and a static un-animated image of the spinner circle. This gives me all the same info that it gave before, but it is SO much less distracting and annoying!

Here's the way I did it. I opened up the safari application package, went into the resources folder, and then trashed all the files starting with "LoadingCorner...", and trashed all but one of the files starting with "WhiteSpinner...", and then duplicate and rename the remaining whitespinner file a bunch of times and rename the copies to be the same as the names of the whitespinner files you trashed. I also trashed all the files named "InactiveLoading..." but I'm not sure if it was necessary to get rid of those.


If someone could figure out which file I need I need to get rid of in order to prevent the black background from appearing behind the spinner icon, then that would make this even better!

 

[Eidorian]

How did you get the old loading bar? I want it back too.

 

[motulist]

How did you get the old loading bar? I want it back too.

Maybe my description wasn't too clear. I didn't get the old loading bar back, I just got rid of all the annoying flashy animations and high-contrast colors popping on and off. So it still displays the loading info the same safari 4 way, but now it just does it without making a distracting spectacle of itself.

I don't think getting rid of that last remaining black box is going to be possible without making the spinner appear again. I figured out which resources were going into that black box, and I was able to make them white, but when I did a black spinner over that box suddenly became visible. So that black spinner is there all the time, it was just being camouflaged by the black box background. And I'm pretty sure that that black spinner animation is an OS resource rather than a safari resource, so there's probably no way to remove it. Maybe I'll spend a little time and at least round out the corners of that black box.

 

[Cinder6]

Listen, just because YOU don't know how to do it, doesn't mean it can't be done. It WAS possible to do these things in the beta version of safari 4 using terminal commands to change unpublished preference settings, so there's absolutely no reason to presume that those functions are gone instead of just re-hidden. In fact, you don't seem to even know that Safari can do a LOT of stuff that isn't an official function of the software, and there are tons of extra features you can add to safari using add-on software like Glims and AdBlock. So again, please keep this discussion on topic. Lots of these things can be done. If you don't know how to do them, then please don't go around claiming that they can't be done.

Funny, sounds like I've actually been using Glims at least as long as you, as well as Greasekit, if this topic is anything to judge by (seeing as how I was going to suggest them to you until you mentioned you used them). As for the old command-line features you could enable/disable in the Terminal, you could easily find them by searching the debug strings. I manually went through all the debug strings for the Safari 4 release, and didn't find anything that was particularly useful. Plus, after this much time, I'd have thought people would report any new commands, if they existed--it sure didn't take long for the beta.

Finally, attacking somebody who's only trying to help out isn't the greatest way to go about business.