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I have had it with the POS Apple keyboards and mice

The worst keyboard ever made was the one that shipped with the blue and white G3 power mac. It sucks beyond the telling of it. And the one that came with my G4 quicksilver is not much better.

However, the new aluminum slim keyboard is very good, once you get used to it. You do have to change your typing style, but if you give it a chance, you will like it.

I myself use the best keyboard ever made - still: the Apple Extended Keyboard II. I have a Griffin iMate ADB to USB adaptor and it works just fine with OS 10.3. I hear there are issues with using it in 10.4, though. However, that's fine, as I will just switch to the new aluminum keyboard when/if I upgrade either my computer or OS.

The Apple mice all are less than great, in my experience. Don't know when, if ever, there was a good one.
 
I type 80-90 wpm and my MBP keyboard responds fine, as do all the MacBook and iMac/MacPro keyboards I've used.
 
Apple mouse, if under 1 year (or 3 years if you have Apple Care) = replacement at store. You need to try to clean the roller first. There are dozens of threads on how to do that.

But I do use Logitech mouse instead.
 
Digital Fury said:
The slim Al wired keyboard is great for fast touch typists, as the old white one that came with the iMac and Mac Pro required pounding on them to type.

The current MBP keyboard is a spongy POS that is horrible for touch typist. I actually had to resell a brand new 15" MBP in late 2007 because I couldn't type with it.

Apple mice always have been POS. I've been happy with a Logitech MX Revolution ever since it came out.
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I couldn't agree more with everything you said. My favorite keyboard is the old ADB Apple Extended Keyboard, but I really like the new slim Al wired keyboard. The old white one was way too mushy to touch type fast on it.

One of my other favorite keyboards was the G4 PowerBook, absolutely awesome with great tactile feedback and the nice scalloped keys. It's a shame they really screwed that up with the MBP, I am typing on mind right now. Obviously the key caps are the same, but the feel is totally different.
 
-js- said:
I myself use the best keyboard ever made - still: the Apple Extended Keyboard II. I have a Griffin iMate ADB to USB adaptor and it works just fine with OS 10.3. I hear there are issues with using it in 10.4, though. However, that's fine, as I will just switch to the new aluminum keyboard when/if I upgrade either my computer or OS.
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You don't need to worry- the Griffin iMate works fine with 10.4, 10.5, even Windows for ADB keyboards and mice.

The outdated software driver is only needed for more complex devices.
 
madmaxmedia said:
You don't need to worry- the Griffin iMate works fine with 10.4, 10.5, even Windows for ADB keyboards and mice.

The outdated software driver is only needed for more complex devices.
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OH! THAT IS SO COOL! Great! Now I really have no excuse not to upgrade to Tiger. Thanks for telling me this!
 
Personally as a fast typist I find the new keyboards quite unforgiving in terms of the end of the key travel. I work on other scissor-action keyboards, and it seems to me that it would only impress those who have never encountered other scissor-action boards, relying on the default, base-model keyboards of Dell and HP for starters, as well as the truly heinous previous-model white Apple keyboard.

As the last-gen white keyboard was, IMO the current keyboard is the same - the prettiest, yet indifferently made where it actually counts - the keys - and the worst-feeling of the type.

Personally I use the MacAlly Icekey in the main on my Apple gear, which to me strikes the right balance between the typing efficiency of scissor-action keyboards while the key-action-end feel is slightly more like a desktop keyboard.
 
I had my aluminum wired keyboard ever since it was first released and still use it today.

Works great! Best keyboard I've ever used in my life.
 
ggjstudios said:
That's another reason why I love the VX Nano..... zero maintenance!
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Well there I will take issue with you. I have the VX Revolution, which is a great mouse. However, Logitech's support and software is miserable. You apparently didn't have your mouse last year when the software did nothing but cause kernel panics. The scrollball on the MM may not always work, but it certainly didn't make my computer crash thrice daily.
 
I hate the Aluminium chiclet keyboard and the Apple mice. Own both and hate both.
 
vandlism said:
Well there I will take issue with you. I have the VX Revolution, which is a great mouse. However, Logitech's support and software is miserable. You apparently didn't have your mouse last year when the software did nothing but cause kernel panics. The scrollball on the MM may not always work, but it certainly didn't make my computer crash thrice daily.
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I've had nothing but Logitech mice for at least 7 years, I've always used their software, and I've never had a single problem with any Logitech mouse. I've only replaced them for upgraded models with more features. Your mileage may vary.
 
I guess I'm a weird one, I like the mighty mouse and the G3 Bondi Blue keyboard I use. Granted its nice to use the keyboard on my MBP, it still doesn't feel right by the hands of a recent convert.
 
Digital Fury said:
Is the current LCC of any real use?

I just got myself a new Mac Pro last week and I didn't even think of installing it.
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Yes, it's useful for programming the keys the way you want.
 

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Wireless mighty mouse

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Not sure I'm doing this all ok but I have a question about mouse wireless can anyone help?

I have just been typing A LOT with the white apple KB that came with the mac pro and with macbook and there has NEVER been so much missing letters in my text before. I mean the, on the macbook, the keyboard doesn't register the keypresses if you press it quick enough so you have to write like a retard, just take it sllllooooowwwww. All hail the selfproclaimed king of usability, Apple!

And then the mac pro KB, this piece of sh*t misses letters too, and ALOT! There's something totally f*'d up with the mechanics, if you press the keys even slightly off center, the key gets stuck halfway and doesn't register the keypress. Somebody give an oldschool Keytronic please please please.

I don't even want to start with that soap-looking plastic turd which they call Mighty "Misclick" Mouse. I threw it in the corner, gladly it hit wall pretty hard.
The scrolling ball has become useless in less than a year, I guess it is just dirt in there but still. I have used Logitech MX-series mice for years and never have had to clean their innards.
I plugged in my MX510, now I feel comfortable.

Anyone want to share these feelings with Apple's input devices?

(anyone who says mine-works-just-fine or take-it-to-the-store gets a haymaker.)

-t[/QUOTE]
 
ggjstudios said:
Yes, it's useful for programming the keys the way you want.
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Have to say the LCC - and how it works with the Revo's - is significantly improved since I abandoned using the Revo MX with the Macs the first time around. There are still some occasional connection problems but it is hugely more usable.
 
ggjstudios said:
I've had nothing but Logitech mice for at least 7 years, I've always used their software, and I've never had a single problem with any Logitech mouse. I've only replaced them for upgraded models with more features. Your mileage may vary.
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Well the real problem was with LCC 2.3 and the fact that it installed Unsanity Haxies without notifying the user. These seemed to be the source of many problems and kernel panics.

Digital Fury said:
Is the current LCC of any real use?
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As far as I know, you need LCC to map the different buttons to Expose, Dashboard, Volume control, etc.

Also, I use the new bluetooth Apple keyboard, and it's my favorite.
 
Alum keyboard & red wine?

My keyboard and I had a glass of wine last night and this morning it will not work....the usb port on the left side does not either. The wireless mouse stick was plugged into the right side port and works ok...any ideas or suggestions?
Tnx
 
Obviously KB preferences are a matter of taste. But I second the notion that the white KBs, corded or wireless, are poorly made. I've had 5 of the white ones and 2 (40%!) have failed.

If you take a stuttering/missing KB to the Genius Bar, you may have trouble. My white Bluetooth KB started missing a few letters (I'm a very fast typist) so much it was unusable. Since it was under warranty, I figured they'd just swap it for a new one. Eventually they did, but not without some serious argument. The idiot genius tapped on the bad keys a few times and announced that they felt OK to him. Really.

Eventually I did the only thing I could think of, which was to raise my voice in a crowded store about how Apple didn't stand behind its hardware and I was heading out to buy a third party keyboard. That did the trick, but should not have been necessary.

I tried the Al Bluetooth KB for 6 or 7 months and it was OK, but its connection was unreliable, especially on booting, and I missed the extra keys. I went to the Al corded one, and like it very much.
 
Tangotom said:
My keyboard and I had a glass of wine last night and this morning it will not work....the usb port on the left side does not either. The wireless mouse stick was plugged into the right side port and works ok...any ideas or suggestions?
Tnx
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Friends don't let friends type drunk. :D
 
I used the wired stuff that came with our iMac and loved it. They're in a box now, because we bought the wireless stuff. They're great! I use an MB all day at work, and when I go home to my iMac, the keyboard size/layout is almost exactly the same, so I breeze right into it.

I wouldn't wish Logitech on my worst enemy. God, talk about plastic crap...
 
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