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We geeks sit in the basement all day; we have no use for such a thing, so burning it away is one less thing to worry about.

I know, right?

Insults are forbidden. Please delete this sentence. ... Apparently not, as four-pin FireWire 400 is not called Mini FireWire.

It's not an insult, and actually a 4-pin FW400 port is indeed called mini FW by quite a few people and companies.
 
Well, them not being Apple, and Apple being the one with the trademark of the name of the standardized spec, I believe I'll call it what it is supposed to be called.

Or maybe I'll buy an "iTouch".:rolleyes:

Actually, I've corrected a good amount of people on the incorrect "iTouch" name.

And for some proof to satisfy you, here's a credible link that will back up my "Mini FW400" statement. Scroll down and look for the box that depicts the available ports on the laptop.
 
Actually, I've corrected a good amount of people on the incorrect "iTouch" idea.

And for some proof to satisfy you, here's a credible link that will back up my "Mini FW400" statement. Scroll down and look for the box that depicts the available ports on the laptop.

Oh! I see the confusion now.

I'm supposed to trust what Gateway says. Gateway. The people who used to put their computers in Holstein cow-inspired boxes before they were purchased and now exist only in name as a subsidiary.

I understand now. Situation: clarified.
 
Oh! I see the confusion now.

I'm supposed to trust what Gateway says. Gateway. The people who used to put their computers in Holstein cow-inspired boxes before they were purchased and now exist only in name as a subsidiary.

I understand now. Situation: clarified.

It was just an example. CNET uses the term "Mini FW" all the time, and they are very legit.

This is like motherboard vs logicboard. They're the same thing.
 
Yes, obviously. It's a better port in that it carries audio as well as video. DVI, however, was available on Macs from about 2003 to 2009. That's a good enough timeline for one port.
2009? Fail.
I'm not talking about support, I'm talking about the classified specification in general.
No.
Could you please tell me what the purpose is?
HDMI output, like I said, to a TV or other. Keyword: output.
Apparently not, as four-pin FireWire 400 is not called Mini FireWire.
The name is interchangeable.
Can't think of a reason for needing a Serial, Parallel, or S-Video port?
I'll explain.
A Serial port is for connecting peripherals.
A Parallel port is for printers.
S-Video is for video out.
 
Oh! I see the confusion now.

I'm supposed to trust what Gateway says. Gateway. The people who used to put their computers in Holstein cow-inspired boxes before they were purchased and now exist only in name as a subsidiary.

I understand now. Situation: clarified.

:D Totally PWNED.
 
What sentence?

Your first.

2009? Fail.

Look at the iMac, the Mac Mini, and the Mac Pro. Then come back and make fun of my answers.


I'm confused as to how that is an answer to my point.

HDMI output, like I said, to a TV or other. Keyword: output.

'Kay. DVI-HDMI and Mini DisplayPort-HDMI exist, as well as Mini DVI-HDMI.

The name is interchangeable.

Only because it has to be to fit your argument.

I'll explain.
A serial port is for connecting peripherals.
A Parallel port is for printers.
S-Video is for video out.

They all died in 1997. Or perhaps you haven't used USB. If you're still using ports with dozens of pins, you need to upgrade your peripherals.

What was that one post earlier? You're still using paper with guide holes? Probably.
 
Look at the iMac, the Mac Mini, and the Mac Pro. Then come back and make fun of my answers.
Last time I checked, we were in the MacBook Pro, PowerBook forum.
I'm confused as to how that is an answer to my point.
You didn't make a point.
'Kay. DVI-HDMI and Mini DisplayPort-HDMI exist, as well as Mini DVI-HDMI.
I'm glad you agree with me.
Only because it has to be to fit your argument.
It's not mine, it's just fact.
 
Last time I checked, we were in the MacBook Pro, PowerBook forum.

Fine, if you want to narrow your argument to semantics, I will, too.

The 17" MacBook Pro was available for purchase and shipment in 2009 with a DVI port.

You didn't make a point.

No, you just didn't read it. I was saying that the entire specification that made up the port was shoddy.

I'm glad you agree with me.

That adapters for your precious HDMI exist, yes. I do not agree that it has any purpose on a computer.

It's not mine, it's just fact.

I'll believe you when you cite a source for "mini FireWire" from a company that owns the rights to the name FireWire.

Meaning Apple.
 
I'm glad you agree with me.

Wrong, he was saying Apple allows its computers to have connectivity with adapters and not have all those ports built directly into the logic/motherboard.
This also allows their computers to maintain an aesthetically pleasing exterior. See the difference for yourself.

i-o.jpg


versus

macbookaluminum-7.jpg
 
The 17" MacBook Pro was available for purchase and shipment in 2009 with a DVI port.
However, it is not a 2009 model. Fail.
No, you just didn't read it. I was saying that the entire specification that made up the port was shoddy.
Why is it shoddy?
That adapters for your precious HDMI exist, yes. I do not agree that it has any purpose on a computer.
That's not my problem.
 
Wrong, he was saying Apple allows its computers to have connectivity with adapters and not have all those ports built directly into the logic/motherboard.
This also allows their computers to maintain an aesthetically pleasing exterior. See the difference for yourself.

i-o.jpg


versus

macbookaluminum-7.jpg

How is that fact that I'm glad he agrees with me wrong?

Oh look! I see Parallel, Serial, AND S-Video... huh.
 
How is that fact that I'm glad he agrees with me wrong?

Oh look! I see Parallel, Serial, AND S-Video... huh.

*furrows brow*

I'm having difficulty understanding why you are not understanding my arguments... because you're pretending that I'm agreeing with you.

The point made with the comparison between the piece of trash computer on the top and the MacBook on the bottom is that, while one uses ports that were invented in the 70's, the other uses technology invented in this century, other than audio in/out.
 
*furrows brow*

I'm having difficulty understanding why you are not understanding my arguments... because you're pretending that I'm agreeing with you.

The point made with the comparison between the piece of trash computer on the top and the MacBook on the bottom is that, while one uses ports that were invented in the 70's, the other uses technology invented in this century, other than audio in/out.

Who's pretending?

Regardless of the date when the ports were made, they are still being built into current models.
 
Troll?? Anyone else agree?

Oh look! I see Parallel, Serial, AND S-Video... huh.

That computer was made in 2002.:rolleyes:

My point was, Apple provides the same amount of connectivity through *optional* adapters, without clunking up the exterior like that Dell model.

And if one doesn't use the connection, they aren't stuck with ports and dust-catchers they'll never use.

Also, USB-Serial adapters exist if you really must have them.
Pretty sure they have USB-Parallel adapters too.
There's always the option for minidisplayport -> DVI & VGA and one with HDMI is coming shortly.

Also, Apple killed Serial ports on its entire line starting with the 1999 iMac. Replaced them with USB and lucked out by it catching on elsewhere and being pioneers for the entire computer industry... again...
 
Wrong, he was saying Apple allows its computers to have connectivity with adapters and not have all those ports built directly into the logic/motherboard.
This also allows their computers to maintain an aesthetically pleasing exterior. See the difference for yourself.

i-o.jpg


versus

macbookaluminum-7.jpg

FAIL!

Post a picture of a current PC model next time. Skewing the images is an epic fail, just like the iMac vs. desktop clutter photo, you know, where the webcam breaks.

Most modern PCs have caught on to the Apple asthetics, and in some regards surpassed them, like in the Sony TT which has more ports, output options, internal HDD space, and customizable options (like Blu Ray) than the Macbook Air and still manages to be lighter and smaller.

Or just post a pick of any PC 17" compared to the 17" MBP past or present.
 
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