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Puonti

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Mar 14, 2011
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There is for people who often use full screen zoom.
I don't see how. On MacBook Pros with a notch developers can address a rectangular 16:10 "full screen" area that's below the notch (and at least in the case of the smaller MacBook Pro, larger than previous generation).

I believe they have other options too, such as displaying a menu bar to the left and right of the notch even in full-screen mode, however that won't interfere with "full screen zoom" either (since you don't put user content into the menu bar area). Normal app use in full-screen operation happens below the notch.
 

Feyl

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Aug 24, 2013
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Yeah that worked well for the iPhone. The drama over that notch is ridiculous.
It starts with the notch and will end with something more ridiculous. We can't let that happen and should vote with our wallets. Look at them, they can't even fix their bad Safari design and that's like the most simple thing for the company like Apple.
 
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MLVC

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Apr 30, 2015
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It starts with the notch and will end with something more ridiculous. We can't let that happen and should vote with our wallets. Look at them, they can't even fix their bad Safari design and that's like the most simple thing for the company like Apple.
So don't buy it. But don't assume your opinion is leading. It's just what it is, an opinion among many others. The notch doesn't bother me at all.
 

bo-waleed

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People complaining about things they don't even understand. The screen contents will NEVER go into and past the notch area. It's reserved for the menu bar only, and in full screen the notch area is blacked out and your contents will be in the normal 16:10 zone only.
Did apple stated that in the event ?
Haven't read that anywhere and I didn't watch the event (Even if I watched it, I can't hear what are they saying, Because I have issue with my hearing)

Anyway thanks for explaining that for me.
 
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Feyl

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Aug 24, 2013
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So don't buy it. But don't assume your opinion is leading. It's just what it is, an opinion among many others. The notch doesn't bother me at all.
Good for you. When did I say that my opinion is leading? I just said that all those little things will cost us. I don't even need a Pro laptop but it should've got Face ID to justify the meaningless notch. I don't think that's an outrageous thing to say. I care about it only because I've been an Apple fan for so long and I loved how they used to sweat even the tiniest details. But I'll be mad if the rumors are true and they're going to add the notch to the Air too for no reason.
 

Madonepro

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Mar 16, 2011
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They'll remove it in a few years, to pander to the naysayers. Just checked out laptops that are made for Windows, and most have 720p Cameras, and even the ones (very high end) that have HD, don't have notches.
Personally I have found, for what you use the cam for in a MBP, it suffices with the addition of some good lighting. Those that use the built in device for anything other than meetings need to seriously look at external cams, no serious vlogger would dream of using the built in devices.
 

monkeydax

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Nov 2, 2012
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I hope the complaints about the notch get too big that apple can't ignore it.
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That's what people said about the iPhone since 2017. Look where we are now!
 

ascender

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Dec 8, 2005
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I think we need to wait and see how it works in actual use. I'll hold my hands-up and say that at first I was utterly against it, but that was because the initial reports didn't go in to the details of how it might work. Once I'd read those I'm open to the idea as it seems to be much less intrusive than the one on the phone.

Unfortunately that initial reporting line of "OMG ITS A NOTCH" lasted for some time after people started to discuss how it could be implemented on macOS.
 
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leslieg

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the only way apple will listen is if people vote with their wallets. and judging by the fact the online store was crashing today...... that's not happening 😂
 

James3000

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Sep 15, 2015
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I didn’t really like the way the new MacBook looked if I’m being honest. I’m trying to reserve judgement until I see reviewer hands-on and obviously get a hold of it myself. The notch was killer but even the overall shape I didn’t like.

However..

While it may not be to my taste I don’t think we need to pretend there is more outrage than there actually is. I still rock an iPhone 8 plus partly because I’m not a huge fan of the notch, but plenty of people don’t mind it and it will be the same with the MacBook.

This MacBook Pro is a huge step forward. If you need an upgrade now and don’t like the design then it’s unfortunate. If, like me, you’re a couple of years out from an upgrade then this iteration is a step in the right direction and a few tweaks to the design in a few years will produce the perfect device.
 

arock

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Apr 29, 2005
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I voted with my wallet - by buying a nearly maxed-out 16". The notch is fine. This is a perfect replacement for my mid-2014 15". I get to keep the ports I already had plus add significant CPU/GPU power, an excellent keyboard and a size increase to the screen. My primary use case is audio production for both studio and mobile scenarios with some video and photo editing mixed in. This is a giant leap forward for me, and is a laptop that truly deserves the Pro moniker.

If a notch in the menu bar is the deciding factor for you - are you really the target audience for this machine? This does not mean you have to love the notch - either like it or don't. But if you truly need the power that these laptops offer, the notch is not how you will decide.
 
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